CarIre arrived in site19, spouted random stuff, mentioned the game, and flipped out when someone called him on his rulebreaking. After which refused to read the chat guide, ran into site17, flew a rage, then PM'd me privately to get the last word in. I don't want to unban him, but besides the anger his infractions are not worth a permaban. This is just recordkeeping.
[12:32] Annalea thefran
[12:32] Annalea You're confusing a /lot/ of terms together
[12:32] Annalea there is no such thing as an auditory infohazard
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[12:33] Annalea you also are using both "cognitohazard" and "memetic agent" in ways that worry me
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[12:33] CarIre Whoops, did I just accidentaly a war? IT'S LIGHTS OUT, LIGHTS OUT FOR YOU, I THINK YOU SPARKED A WAAARRRR
[12:33] tahunu .g orionsarm meme
[12:33] Nala tahunu: http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/47abccd6ee698 (Orion's Arm - Encyclopedia Galactica - Meme) Dec 8, 2001 … An idea or information pattern is not a meme until it causes someone to … Memes , like genes, pertain to tendencies (in this case belief or …
[12:33] Magnolia how the hell should I know
[12:34] Annalea CarIre: What's with the random yelling and non-sequiturs?
[12:34] thefran cognitohazard is anything that is hazard to perceive
[12:34] thefran is it not?
[12:34] CarIre Music!
[12:34] Annalea Yes, but that is not the same thing as an infohazard.
[12:34] CarIre I mean, references!
[12:34] CarIre Or both.
[12:34] Annalea CarIre: Spamming random shit from music is still spam. Don't do it.
[12:34] thefran oh
[12:34] CarIre Ergo: Sarah Palin's bare ass is usually a cognitohazard, depending.
[12:34] thefran i got confused about the definition then
[12:34] Annalea Memetic agents are a subset of cognitohazards, but you're using both interchangeably
[12:35] Annalea CarIre: We're having a serious discussion. Be quiet or GTFO.
[12:35] thefran Memetic kill is a terminology used in different articles
[12:35] Annalea Alright, anomalous hazard explanation time.
[12:35] Annalea A cognitohazard is something that poses a danger when observed, you have that correct.
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[12:35] Annalea This can be through any of the classic senses.
[12:35] tahunu Heh. Orions arm memetic self replicating swarm picture: http://www.orionsarm.com/im_store/meme1362996218.jpg
[12:36] Annalea However, a cognitohazard still has a— dammit tahunu, we're talking shop.
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[12:36] tahunu Ah, my bad, shutting up
[12:36] Soulless shrug
[12:36] Annalea a cognitohazard still has a distinct source
[12:36] Soulless I'll kick next time /op flag
[12:36] Annalea So let's take an example
[12:36] Annalea say there's a stop sign
[12:36] Annalea and everyone who sees it freezes
[12:36] Annalea that could certainly be a cognitohazard
[12:37] Annalea but only people who see that stop sign are affected, the stop sign itself is the cognitohazard
[12:37] Annalea what differentiates a memetic agent is that it's viral. it's /you/ that's now the source, not the sign itself
[12:37] Annalea so
[12:37] Annalea if you saw the stop sign
[12:37] Annalea and then from then on out, /every stop sign you saw/ did the same thing
[12:37] Annalea then you're infected with a memetic agent
[12:37] Annalea similarly
[12:38] Annalea a memetic kill agent is something far more devious than something that merely kills you when seen/heard/read
[12:38] Annalea it's the equivalent of slash-and-burning the affected mind
[12:38] Annalea anyone attempting to read that mind will be similarly affected (and killed)
[12:38] CarIre Like Roosters and the Basilisk in Harry Potter
[12:38] Annalea an infohazard is something completely related to all of this
[12:39] Annalea completely unrelated*
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[12:39] Annalea an infohazard is something that poses a direct danger to anyone who knows about it
[12:39] Annalea so to continue the same analogy
[12:39] Annalea if that stop sign were an infohazard
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[12:39] Annalea then whenever someone says, "there's a stop sign in site-19 that causes people to freeze for 5 minutes whenever you think about it"
[12:39] Annalea you will suddenly freeze for 5 minutes
[12:40] Annalea because you don't have to see it or even be close to it
[12:40] Annalea you just have to /think/ about it
[12:40] Annalea the best example of an infohazard on the site, in my opinion, is the Toaster
[12:40] Annalea it doesn't matter how far away you are or whether you're looking at it
[12:40] Annalea if you think about it
[12:40] Annalea or try to talk about it
[12:40] Annalea it affects you
[12:40] SamuelRS .article toaster
[12:40] Nala SamuelRS: I am a Toaster (rating: +506, 19 revisions) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-426
[12:40] SamuelRS ??
[12:40] tahunu I affect everything!
[12:40] Annalea infohazards are far more devious than any imaginable cognitohazard
[12:41] Annalea and yes, that is the one.
[12:41] Annalea the toaster is a mind-affecting infohazard
[12:41] CarIre …Infohazards are The Game?
[12:41] Annalea No, that's a meme.
[12:41] Annalea Also, mentioning The Game is a bannable offense in chat.
[12:41] CarIre Oh. Huh. My bad.
[12:42] Annalea You may want to read up on chat rules before you stuff that foot any further into your mouth, hon. :I
[12:43] CarIre RUDE.
[12:43] Tox How is that rude?
[12:43] CarIre …How is it not?
[12:43] tahunu Huh. So, I found the orionsarm equivalent of memetic kill agents (I think?) http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/45eb17337088f
[12:43] Tox I'm asking you how it /is/ rude
[12:43] Annalea You've broken two rules so far in the five minutes you've been here.
[12:43] Annalea Which tells me you haven't read the chat rules.
[12:44] Annalea You are indeed putting your foot in your mouth, i.e. performing a chat faux pas
[12:44] thefran So i am correct in my usage of "memetic kill" and "cognitohazard" because both apply?
[12:44] CarIre Wait, what rules?
[12:44] Annalea I'm telling you that you should probably re-read the chat guide if you haven't already
[12:44] Annalea It's not rude, it's informative.
[12:44] Annalea http://www.scp-wiki.net/chat-guide
[12:44] Nala Annalea: Chat Guide [Guide] (rating: +9, 159 revisions, 78 comments) - tags: guide, required
[12:44] Annalea Go read it.
[12:44] CarIre >_> WHAT. RULES.
[12:44] CarIre Seriously.
[12:44] Tox the rules she just linked.
[12:44] BlackWing Read that link
[12:44] tahunu …The rules that were literally just linked right there?
[12:44] CarIre Oh for
[12:44] Tox The rules that you were /supposed/ to read before you joined the site.
[12:44] CarIre WHAT RULES DID I BREAK
[12:44] =-= CarIre was booted from #site19 by YOU (Please read the chat guide before coming back, please and thank you http://www.scp-wiki.net/chat-guide)
[12:44] CarIre IS WHAT I'M ASKING
[12:45] Annalea thefran: I don't know, did people who heard the sound continue to infect other people who weren't initially affected?
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[12:45] DrUnderwood The rules that are required to join the chat
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[12:45] Tox Read the goddamn — urgh
[12:45] CarIre >_>
[12:45] CarIre WHat. Rules. Did. I. Break
[12:45] CarIre Is what I'm asking.
[12:45] tahunu facepalms
[12:45] CarIre Or attempting to.
[12:45] Annalea ducks out of the way
[12:45] =-= CarIre was booted from #site19 by YOU (Please read the chat guide before coming back http://www.scp-wiki.net/chat-guide Thank you)
[12:45] DrUnderwood lol
[12:45] ->| CarIre (~PI.823E3703.8BBAF5D.A4B6F7C|senivraC#PI.823E3703.8BBAF5D.A4B6F7C|senivraC) has joined #site19
[12:45] CarIre Okay, seriously?
[12:45] SamuelRS Read them and you'll know.
[12:45] Annalea Somehow I doubt he read the rules that quickly.
[12:45] CarIre Getting kind of annoyed by that.
[12:45] Tox That was pretty goddamn quick for reading the rules, chief
[12:45] tahunu Does anybody want some hand-in-face action? I've got planty facepalming to go around
[12:45] =-= Mode #site19 +b *!*@C7F6B4A.D5FABB8.3073E328.IP by Soulless
[12:45] thefran Attempting to read that mind?
[12:46] thefran What do you mean?
[12:46] DrUnderwood …
[12:46] Annalea No, here
[12:46] Annalea .sea self-propagating
[12:46] Nala Annalea: Self-Propagating Infectious Pattern (rating: +52, 21 revisions) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-571
[12:46] =-= CarIre was booted from #site19 by YOU (This is for 1 hour to give you the opportunity to read the http://www.scp-wiki.net/chat-guide Sorry for the inconvenience)
[12:46] CarIre Mkay.
[12:46] CarIre I'm going to say this calmly.
[12:46] CarIre So fucking listen and answer my question.
[12:46] CarIre What.
[12:46] CarIre Rules.
[12:46] CarIre Did.
[12:46] CarIre I.
[12:46] CarIre Break?
[12:46] CarIre Because being banned REPEATEDLY is kind of annoying.
[12:46] Tox Read the chat guide, and you'll figure it out.
[12:46] Soulless CarIre: All the information you need will be on the chat guide
[12:47] CarIre Especially when nobody is answering my fucking question.
[12:47] Tox And you were only banned /once./
[12:47] CarIre I read it
[12:47] CarIre I was kicked like
[12:47] CarIre 15 times
[12:47] CarIre ANd I read the rules
[12:47] Soulless Then if you don't know you should read it again, my apologies
[12:47] Tox No, you weren't, and kicks aren't bans.
[12:47] CarIre The ONLY thing I can see that I broke was the "Game" rule
[12:47] CarIre WHATEVER.
[12:47] CarIre My point still stands.
[12:47] CarIre I READ THEM
[12:47] CarIre I noticed ONE RULE THAT I BROKE
[12:47] CarIre not 2
[12:47] Tox "Spamming."
[12:47] CarIre NOW WAS THAT SO HARD?!
[12:47] Tox Maybe you should have read them yourself!
[12:47] Soulless My apologies, if you wish to get angry for being unable to follow rules I am unable to be of assistance
[12:47] CarIre I READ THE RULES
[12:48] Tox That entry was literally right below the one you read/
[12:48] Soulless Tox, please allow me to take care of this as I am the one that has banned the person
[12:48] CarIre -Eyeroll- I don't know how I was spamming.
[12:48] CarIre That's why I was confused.
[12:48] Tox Understood
[12:48] CarIre Ir ead the rules agin
[12:48] CarIre again*
[12:48] Tox gotta jet anyway
[12:48] CarIre When Alasafdgwhatever her name is mentioned the Game thing
[12:48] Soulless CarIre: I have given you 1 hour to allow you to sit and read and comprehend what you are reading
[12:48] Tox O7
[12:48] Soulless CarIre: I do apologize for the inconvenience
[12:48] Annalea As the person who pointed it out, you were spamming random lines from songs. That's spamming.
[12:48] CarIre Soulles: Stop insulting my intelligence
[12:49] CarIre Annalea: Was /that/ so hard?
[12:49] Annalea You also mentioned The Game, which is clearly listed as an immediately bannable offense.
[12:49] Annalea CarIre: Don't.
[12:49] CarIre Fuck sakes.
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[12:49] CarIre Also.
[12:49] CarIre Patience.
[12:49] CarIre TRy some.
[12:49] Soulless My apologies
I'll be unbanning him at the appropriate time.
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