CocaColaSoda

Summary:

refusing to drop conversation about why it should be okay to say a slur when asked, asked by many people, told, and op ordered/

CocaColaSoda

(account deleted) 06 Aug 2018 14:36

+ show block

15:23	Quikngruvn	Go back to innuendo. We have plausible deniability there.
15:24	Postmo	https://www.branson-reese.com/archive/2017/2/27/baltimore-oriole
15:24	Keiya	I played through Shantae: HAlf Genie Hero recently and I gotta say. Spider and Mermaid and Harpy Shantae? Kinda cute
15:24	Postmo	Keiya: would a harpy have the problem illustrated in that comic
15:24	Quikngruvn	Postmo, there's a reason the Orioles are the worst team in baseball this year.
15:25	Swaghetti	ok gtg bye
15:25	stormfallen	Baseball team names are weird
15:25	Ventunya	getting penetrated by a futa with a massive piercing dong
15:25	Ventunya	imeanwut
15:25	Postmo	Dr. Scranton gets a friend: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/591cfb33ebbd1acf37f5a469/t/5a88c0a39140b7effccb37cd/1518911655633/0084+lightsout2.jpg?format=1500w
15:26	Quikngruvn	Vent, careful, I think "futa" is an offensive word.
15:26	Ventunya	spider girls are pretty hot tbh
15:26	Ventunya	futanari?
15:26	Ventunya	the whole shebang?
15:26	stormfallen	Considered by some to be a transphobic term
15:26	spookybee	yeah how about
15:26	spookybee	dont
15:26	Keiya	Quikngruvn: It's… iffy. I'd avoid using it for the most part, *especially* about real people.
15:26	Ventunya	but it isn't about real people?
15:26	Keiya	Avoid using the tp word completely though
15:26	spookybee	nobody cares
15:26	spookybee	dont
15:26	Ventunya	i love that word though
15:27	spookybee	then you're in the wrong place, i'll say that bluntly
15:27	Ventunya	but they aren't gay
15:27	Quikngruvn	Hoo boy.
15:27	spookybee	well, that's where I drop all friendly pretense.
15:27	Ventunya	well that's just rude
15:27	spookybee	Quikngruvn: I would ping for o p s but you're right here
15:27	Postmo	clef liked my idea of rewriting the sexy mermaid scp that wants to bang researchers so that she reproduces like an anglerfish and tries to convince men to bite her and shrivel up
15:28	CuteGirl	Tuomey: 👀
15:28	Quikngruvn	Vent, you've been asked to not use a term that a large chunk of chat finds offensive.
15:28	Ventunya	i didn't use it after that though
15:28		* Azmoeth joined #site19 ~ten.enilnotpo.nyd.F813676A-CRInys|tibbiM#ten.enilnotpo.nyd.F813676A-CRInys|tibbiM
15:28	Postmo	there were an awful lot of early scp's that were just 'sexy lady that wants to bang researchers'
15:28	Ventunya	but i don't really get why it's offensive
15:28	Quikngruvn	Vent, that's okay, you don't have to.
15:28	Quikngruvn	As long as you don't use the term in here again.
15:29	Ventunya	i mean, if you're that adamant about it, i'll comply
15:29	Keiya	Ventunya: A lot of people feel it perpetuates the extremely toxic idea that trans women are trying to trick straight men and/or lesbians into having sex with them
15:29	spookybee	^
15:29	spookybee	stole the words from my mouth
15:29	trets	So I have a question
15:29	Ventunya	i just don't think of it as that bad, i think of it as it's own fetish
15:29	Tuomey	Ventunya: no one cares
15:29	Tuomey	it's the rules
15:29	Ventunya	well that's uncalled for
15:29	trets	Is "The Thing" just a giant game of Mafia/Werewolf?
15:29	spookybee	No it's not
15:29	spookybee	it's called for by all of us
15:29	spookybee	except literally you
15:29	spookybee	just you
15:29	Tuomey	Ventunya: Lotta people seem tobe calling for it
15:29	Azmoeth	hi, i recently posted my new SCP, SCP-3507, if you want to and are available y not give it a read 😉
15:29	Tuomey	bee, I've got it
15:30	Keiya	I'm mostly annoyed that you have to resort to tp because the first three letters are ambiguous with *other* slurs for us >_>
15:30	Ventunya	i've been trying to get a grasp around why it's a big deal, i haven't been actively breaking the ruke
15:30		* Shio joined #site19 ~ten.nozirev.soif.jnkrwn.E9FC27C5-CRInys|sumlA#ten.nozirev.soif.jnkrwn.E9FC27C5-CRInys|sumlA
15:30		* SeraDomiCher quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) moc.duolccri.etaghgih.5102A101-CRInys|666882diu#moc.duolccri.etaghgih.5102A101-CRInys|666882diu
15:30	superblobby	mornin
15:30	Shio	morning
15:30	spookybee	hey Blobbles
15:30	CuteGirl	People don't wanna be fetished man
15:30	Ventunya	rule*
15:30	Tuomey	Ventunya: if you want to find out why slurs are a big deal, hopefully you can connect to the internet somehow
15:30	Tuomey	Now drop it
15:30	CuteGirl	Especiakly fir simwthing that causes dysphoria
15:30	Tuomey	Op order
15:30		* Lixerf quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) ~PI.5D46F6F3.893565FB.26876214|tibbiM#PI.5D46F6F3.893565FB.26876214|tibbiM
15:30	Tuomey	CuteGirl: chat op handling it
15:31	spookybee	',:|
15:31	Ventunya	i mean, sure, if you want. but honestly i'm still not satisfied with your answer. but i'll drop it.
15:31	Quikngruvn	We need more things that cause euphoria.
15:31	spookybee	Quikngruvn: how about my butt
15:31		*** Ventunya was kicked by Quikngruvn (Continuing to talk about it is not dropping it.)

host: C01D5274.48231687.F9B52BA1.IP

I'm willing to count this as an official warning but do we need to go for short ban to drive it home? Ops, weigh in.

EDIT: Ye can stop weighing in. User put the nail in the coffin themself. 24 hour warning ban for doing a transphobia and failing to stop when asked and being an idiot about it upon rejoining.

+ show block

15:42		* Ventunya joined #site19 ~PI.1AB25B9F.78613284.4725D10C|criigc#PI.1AB25B9F.78613284.4725D10C|criigc
15:42		* Klurg joined #site19 ruof.etile.eht|epanrefnI#ruof.etile.eht|epanrefnI
15:42	Cyril	I deleted an old article in this slot and put a better one there, y'all should eyeball it http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2758
15:42	jarvis	cyril: SCP-2758: Self-Containment Process (written 10 hours ago by Cyantreuse; rating: +9) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2758
15:43	Quikngruvn	I am awful guidance.
15:43	Ventunya	i have been reformed thanks to the efforts of one kind soul
15:43	Swaghetti	yeah ok that doesn't sound ironic
15:43	Ventunya	ouch
15:44	Postmo	Lily: did you get that .tell i sent you of tactical antifa
15:44	Swaghetti	You'll be ok
15:44	Lily	Postmo: yeah
15:44	Swaghetti	Ok i gtg bye for real
15:44	spookybee	oh man
15:44	Lily	Ventunya: what part of dropping it do you not understand
15:44	spookybee	im looking through my uploads
15:44	spookybee	found this pic my friend drew of me uwu
15:44	spookybee	https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/AN6zZ18R/HNN
15:44	Ventunya	what
15:44	spookybee	Lily: for realsies chill
15:45	Tuomey	Ventunya: since you're still not getting it, people have agreed on a 24 hour
15:45	Ventunya	why are you bringing it up. i'm apologizing
15:45		—- Lily has banned *!*@C01D5274.48231687.F9B52BA1.IP
15:45	Lily	come back in a day
15:45	Swaghetti	not enough boott
15:45	Tuomey	that's not an apology and you know it
15:45		*** Ventunya was kicked by Lily (Lily)
15:45	spookybee	I'm genuinely gonna tell you to chill out actually :V
15:45	Tuomey	spookybee: ftr this was decided upon by several operators

Last edited on 13 Jul 2022 23:09 by Dexanote Show more

Re: CocaColaSoda

LilyFlower 06 Aug 2018 14:37

I'm voting for a 24/48h ban.

---

~🌸~Flower Power~🌸~

Last edited on 13 Jul 2022 23:11 by Dexanote Show more

Re: CocaColaSoda

Bouncl 06 Aug 2018 15:15

Banned for 24h. Appealed in 17. Ban upheld.

+ show block

[09:50:08] Ventunya (~PI.1AB25B9F.78613284.4725D10C|criigc#PI.1AB25B9F.78613284.4725D10C|criigc) joined the channel.
[09:50:15] <Ventunya> i can appeal? that helps things
[09:50:42] <Ventunya> how do i start?
[09:51:46] <@Bouncl> hello ventunya, i will take your appeal
[09:51:51] soulonphone (moc.duolccri.nevahenots.D7484F9-CRInys|666891diu#moc.duolccri.nevahenots.D7484F9-CRInys|666891diu) joined the channel.
[09:51:51] ChanServ sets mode +ao soulonphone soulonphone
[09:52:17] <Ventunya> alright, do i pm or just in chat?
[09:52:38] <@Bouncl> whichever is more comfortable to you, although if you pm me I will share the logs with the op team
[09:52:45] MobileMagnus (moc.duolccri.DB328CE3-CRInys|699332diu#moc.duolccri.DB328CE3-CRInys|699332diu) left IRC. (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
[09:52:46] <Ventunya> i'm fine with either
[09:52:47] <Ventunya> alright
[09:52:48] <@Bouncl> start by telling me on what grounds you are appealing
[09:53:35] <Ventunya> i was banned (apparently) for not dropping the topic that was…a big deal to them. i guess.
[09:54:06] <Ventunya> i didn't intentionally do so, however people kept sending messages toward me, and i'm the type of person that responds to what i can.
[09:54:34] <Ventunya> the topic of interest having to do with people's identities, i suppose.
[09:55:24] <Ventunya> now, i'll be honest. i've never met anyone who gets offended by the terms i used, so i was confused by the sudden hostility.
[09:55:57] <Ventunya> heck, i'm a t__p myself, and i still haven't seen anything that would give me a reason to hate that word.
[09:56:31] <Ventunya> however. i got pmed by someone who understood my innocent enough confusion
[09:56:45] <@Lily> Can I clarify; are you trans or not
[09:57:11] <Ventunya> trans? no. i'm a trap though, and i do like the connotation that comes with it
[09:57:25] <@Lily> jesus christ you're digging a bigger hole here
[09:57:33] <@Lily> Anyway over to bouncl
[09:57:33] <Ventunya> i like doing feminine things
[09:58:06] <@Bouncl> Sure.
[09:58:08] <@Lily> That doesn't mean you can use slurs
[09:58:34] <Ventunya> anyways, so i got pmed, and they explained to me that although i personally don't see the words as slurs, like you guys, some people associate the words with negative experiences.
[09:58:41] <@Bouncl> The slurs policy is universal.
[09:59:16] salvagebar_ (~ten.enilnotpo.nyd.14D5E76C-CRInys|abegavlas#ten.enilnotpo.nyd.14D5E76C-CRInys|abegavlas) joined the channel.
[09:59:20] <@Bouncl> Indeed.
[09:59:48] <Ventunya> for that i apologize, because any time i've used the word, no one i've ever met has said it's a slur. and if i'm being honest, i don't think the majority thinks of it as a slur either. but if it's a word you're uncomfortable with, i'm willing to delete it from my vocabulary for the chat.
[10:01:24] <Ventunya> erm. i don't really have much more to add.
[10:01:47] <Ventunya> there was an issue i wasn't aware of, no one explained why it was important, i was kicked.
[10:01:58] <Ventunya> someone then explained why it was important, and here we are
[10:02:42] <@Bouncl> Ventunya: we're discussing it right now
[10:03:06] <Ventunya> i didn't mean to continue to bring the topic up, but as i said earlier, i have kind of a sense of duty to respond to messages directed towards me.
[10:03:07] <Ventunya> thanks.
[10:05:46] Sunconure11 (~PI.24C1C037.F778BA57.83A0E388|leamaS#PI.24C1C037.F778BA57.83A0E388|leamaS) joined the channel.
[10:06:23] <@Bouncl> I'm upholding the ban. Ultimately you were banned because, after being told repeatedly to drop it, you did not. I understand that its human nature to respond to comments directed towards you, but sometimes it's important to keep a handle on that.
[10:07:46] Sunconure11 (~PI.24C1C037.F778BA57.83A0E388|leamaS#PI.24C1C037.F778BA57.83A0E388|leamaS) left IRC. (Quit: Leaving)
[10:08:04] <@Bouncl> If you have any further questions, now is the time.
[10:08:15] <@Bouncl> Otherwise your ban will be lifted tomorrow.
[10:08:32] <Ventunya> at the very least, if not appealed, i'd like the message to get across that i didn't mean to make people feel uncomfortable. right before i got banned, i was going to apologize
[10:08:38] <Ventunya> but i understand.
[10:08:56] Bright_ (~ten.tsacmoc.im.1dsh.C83D9EE9-CRInys|87tahCecI#ten.tsacmoc.im.1dsh.C83D9EE9-CRInys|87tahCecI) joined the channel.
[10:09:05] Wazikamawata (~PI.B0F674D5.E2DA1A5D.996C1A9|tibbiM#PI.B0F674D5.E2DA1A5D.996C1A9|tibbiM) joined the channel.
[10:09:06] <@Bouncl> I appreciate that. Consider it a lesson learned on chat etiquette.
[10:09:07] Sunconure11 (~PI.24C1C037.F778BA57.83A0E388|leamaS#PI.24C1C037.F778BA57.83A0E388|leamaS) joined the channel.
[10:09:22] <@Bouncl> For the duration of your ban, please stay out of 17 unless you have specific questions for staff.
[10:09:24] <Wazikamawata> Hey, is there anyone I need to message about getting my SCP properly tagged?
[10:09:41] Sunconure11 (~PI.24C1C037.F778BA57.83A0E388|leamaS#PI.24C1C037.F778BA57.83A0E388|leamaS) left IRC. (Quit: Sunconure11)
[10:09:49] <Ventunya> well, if i had understood the tone that the words had, i would've refrained. but understood, i'll get out of your hair for now
[10:10:16] theduckman (~ten.tsacmoc.im.1dsh.C83D9EE9-CRInys|87tahCecI#ten.tsacmoc.im.1dsh.C83D9EE9-CRInys|87tahCecI) left IRC. (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
[10:10:36] Levi (htaerb.placs.ruoy|tel#htaerb.placs.ruoy|tel) joined the channel.
[10:12:09] <@Bouncl> Thank you.

Last edited on 13 Jul 2022 23:11 by Dexanote Show more

Re: CocaColaSoda

Dexanote 13 Jul 2022 23:10

User appeared in Site17 and requested to remove the thread or otherwise suppress the use of old username, as they have since grown and do not want this to come up (a cringe incident from 4 years ago) when somebody googles their username. We came to a compromise where the user changed their username on the wiki, and I would change the username here.

I have done so, and edited post titles, but left the text in the logs so as to remain complete. I don't think we'll have problems moving forward.