Hi thedeadlymoose,
I hope I'm not being too forward by answering directly.
I don't know what the hell he's talking about there. Fantasy fiction? We write in elaborate pose and detailed descriptions?
Please note I didn't write that. I wrote:
a large part of the SCP fan community enjoy the Fantasy-fiction genre
That's an impression I get from following Ask@ threads and general conversation. Pratchett and Gaiman and, in general, authors that do a lot of alternative world building are by far the most enjoyed authors in the forum. Also, in the Foundation universe world-building exercises are generally highly rated (Antartic exchange, etc) and favourably received. Please note I'm not judging the value of merit of doing this, either implicitly or explicitly.
I mention it to illustrate that say, we take Lord of the Rings, an extraordinary example of worldbuilding, and you give a person who really enjoys LoTR a copy of, say, "Cat's Cradle", and ask for his opinion on it when he's never really dipped into such books. He's bound to find it strange and unfamiliar and probably find it short, confusing, and strangely phrased.
Obviously, I'm not Kurt Vonnegut, but suppose my ambition is to become (at least a shadow of) a Kurt Vonnegut. I appreciate all feedback, but feedback that says, "This is short, confusing, and strangely phrased. (also, it's nothing like Tolkien), go fix that" is only marginally helpful to what I set out to try and write, and not something I can fix without doing exactly the opposite of what I want to write."
Even if divine inspiration would overcome me, and I would nail it exactly as a Kurt Vonnegut in a rewrite, chances are readers would still classify it as "short, confusing, and strangely phrased."
Sometimes though, reviewers who don't particularly care for modern writing (I'll call it 'modern writing'. I'll be happy to be berated on my abuse of nomenclature), give helpful hints like spelling/syntax, in spite of being very opposed to the very idea and lamenting on what they perceive to be an obnoxious way to write. And on occasion I get even very helpful feedback by readers who are not immediately put off by the style but take it in as intended, and point out obvious mistakes I made in what I was trying to achieve.
The end result however, is very very likely to be deleted. And I'm perfectly okay with that. I don't begrudge people their downvotes; they vote as they see fit, and my stuff doesn't fit.
Where on earth did he get this from?
"I'd like to ask you to stop posting new chapters of yer story until you can get the preceding ones to stick. This isn't saying you can't write them, just don't post them until you get a significant amount of feedback."
It's not really all that ambiguous. "You can't write new chapters until you get the earlier ones to stick," which is never, for the above mentioned reasons.
His shit is getting deleted, yet he ignores feedback and then posts the next chapter a while later, which then also gets deleted.
I didn't ignore feedback (apart from the "I don't like this, stop writing" ones), but reposting it after having integrated any feedback wouldn't have made it persist any more than the initial version, and would only have generated more anger for trying again to "trying to ram through another tale."
Not to mention that no one's gonna be able to follow his story without the earlier chapters being present.
That's not strictly true. Even though I labelled the articles with Ch.1-3 (which by itself generated, judging by the comments, a lot of ire), these first chapters did not depend on each other. They are not even chronological. They were, save one or two words(one of which is "Ch."), stand alone stories. Ch. 4 would also have been standalone. Later chapters are going to be chronologically dependent, but I hadn't planned on posting those as stand alone.
-Chapter one was basically two agents playing chess in a cafetaria. The Foundation is introduced as an employer that has you running a lot.
-Chapter two was one agent and one inmate stuck in a small room with one door, and something clawing in from the outside.
-Chapter three was the acquisition of an inmate for D-class recruitment
Granted, none of them are extraordinarily compelling, but, as you probably know, one of the hallmarks of modern writing "“has something to do with skepticism about Grand Narratives.” Also, temporality is allowed to be used in a loose and fast way.
Please, also take into account that I've been a very good citizen. I never even accidentally replied to a staff post, or not made use of a sandbox in the beginning. I'm writing my tales, posting them, taking in feedback, and enjoying the 2-3 upvotes each one to them got. It's not much, but I didn't expect much.
I was doing fine, I was having fun. I was happily scribbling along under the impression I was doing nothing wrong. And then, one morning I find not only a stop-order in my PM box, but find my 'transgression' at the top of O5, adding insult to injury with "ask him to respond to feedback and improve his writing skills." except most feedback given was too vitriolic to improve anything, and the feedback I could use was heartily accepted and used, but revised versions not reposted to avoid annoying people.
So why did I post them ?
Some people seem to like them. Two to three per chapter. But some different people each time. One of them has already approached me directly; him I have asked for feedback after chapter 4 (since after that the story starts depending on what happened before). The others I will approach if they're maybe interested to take a peek whenever I finish another chapter. But I wouldn't have found these 5-6 people if I hadn't posted the three chapters to the main wiki. It's a creative writing resource; I made use of that.
As a final note. I'm not gainsaying anything in your post on O5. I just want to make clearer where I come from, and that nothing in my original post is to be taken as depreciating or snarky. I have never challenged any of the downvotes I received, nor do I feel entitled to anything because "people just don't understand my writing."
I'm easy to disagree, but even easier to agree to disagree. But an order from the administration that I have to agree to agree, coming out of nowhere and based on force instead of merit, was unexpected, to say the least.
As indicated, I won't be posting chapter 4, but, being put in the spotlight on O5, I did feel like replying my thoughts on such a stop order and its implications (which Roget kindly relayed). I comply, and I got a fair hearing of my take on it, basically that's the be all and end all of it as far as I'm concerned.
kind regards,
Garrey
