CephalonSuda (moc.retrahc.om.slts.pchd.908C1BB-CRInys|tibbiM#moc.retrahc.om.slts.pchd.908C1BB-CRInys|tibbiM) linked Ugandan Knuckles videos in chat. A kick would have been the end of it, but they persisted after rejoining. Thus, ProcyonLotor decided upon a week ban.
CephalonSuda> SCP = Salisbury City Police
7:53 PM <XilasCrowe> .y fireflies - otamatone cover
7:53 PM <•jarvis> xilascrowe: [1/10] Fireflies - Otamatone Cover - length 46s - 14723↑122↓ - 379,199 views - TheRealSullyG on 2017-08-03 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=e4zjgUoXU_U
7:53 PM <CephalonSuda> .y Ugandan Knuckles Tribe
7:53 PM <•jarvis> cephalonsuda: [1/10] Ugandan Knuckles Tribe - length 14m30s - 188128↑3138↓ - 8,625,561 views - TanksBlast on 2017-12-28 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=VtYO32AVyMM
7:54 PM <CephalonSuda> .w Ugandan Knuckles
7:54 PM <•jarvis> cephalonsuda: Knuckles the Echidna - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuckles_the_Echidna - Knuckles the Echidna (ナックルズ・ザ・エキドゥナ, Nakkuruzu za Ekiduna) is a fictional character in Sega's Sonic the Hedgehog series. He is a red anthropomorphic echidna who is determined and serious but […]
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7:54 PM <Clockworkkitten> Yeah, okay. So apparently I'm getting pinged every time someone says 'clown'.
7:55 PM <taylor_iOStkin> Hey let’s not link a racist meme in 19 k
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7:55 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Rimple: I'm going to try to have them up by midnight
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7:55 PM <XilasCrowe> Its probably the clo part
7:55 PM <Rimple> ProcyonLotor: what time zone?
7:55 PM <taylor_iOStkin> ProcyonLotor: <3
7:55 PM <•ProcyonLotor> EST
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7:56 PM <Klurg> remember when knuckles was an actual well liked character in a good series?
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7:56 PM <CephalonSuda> Why are you running
7:56 PM <Clockworkkitten> No.
7:56 PM <CephalonSuda> You do not know de way
7:56 PM <Rimple> Ok, cool, that's 4am for me. I'll wake up to it, so!
7:56 PM <taylor_iOStkin> Dude come on
7:56 PM <CephalonSuda> I will show you de way please don't kick me
7:56 PM <taylor_iOStkin> Bro
7:56 PM <XilasCrowe> huh, check your ping words to see if clown is on there
7:56 PM •ProcyonLotor banned *!*@synIRC-BB1C809.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com (+b)
7:56 PM ← Croquembouche (ten.mnigriv.elbac.F56B5C7F-CRInys|tibbiM#ten.mnigriv.elbac.F56B5C7F-CRInys|tibbiM) was kicked by •ARD
7:56 PM <•ARD> FUCK
7:56 PM <taylor_iOStkin> Team effort
7:56 PM You invited Croquembouche to join #site19
7:56 PM •Ops ARD invited Croquembouche into the channel.
7:56 PM <Klurg> nice double team
7:57 PM <taylor_iOStkin> Wait
7:57 PM <taylor_iOStkin> Ard
7:57 PM <taylor_iOStkin> You
7:57 PM <taylor_iOStkin> You kicked the wrong person
7:57 PM <•ARD> .tell croquembouche big apologies! i accidentally kicked you when I meant to kick cephalonsuda1
7:57 PM <•jarvis> ard: Sent.
7:57 PM ← CephalonSuda (moc.retrahc.om.slts.pchd.908C1BB-CRInys|tibbiM#moc.retrahc.om.slts.pchd.908C1BB-CRInys|tibbiM) was kicked by •ARD
Succeeded in getting their weeklong extended to a permanent ban during their appeal. ProcyonLotor put it in the bot.
Cephalon> I was banned for posting Ugandan Knuckles.
7:58 PM <Cephalon> Please help
7:59 PM <Cephalon> Wasn't given sufficient warning
7:59 PM <•ProcyonLotor> You were kicked
7:59 PM <•ProcyonLotor> That was the warning you got.
7:59 PM <•ProcyonLotor> You flagrantly defied it literally immediately.
7:59 PM <Cephalon> How long am I banned? Also, how is Ugandan Knuckles racist?
7:59 PM <•ProcyonLotor> And hence, a week ban
8:00 PM <Cephalon> A week. Really..?
8:00 PM <•ProcyonLotor> "Lol don't ugandan people sound like dipshits" is the whole joke
8:00 PM <Cephalon> I'll take a ban, but I'm gonna be gone by a week.
8:00 PM <Cephalon> 2 days fair?
8:00 PM <•ProcyonLotor> You don't get to negotiate a ban
8:00 PM <Cephalon> I'm being cooperative and reasonable.
8:00 PM <•ProcyonLotor> You can attempt to appeal it, but we're not trading horses here
8:01 PM <Cephalon> Like, legit, accepting responsibility here. A week ban is insane though.
8:01 PM <•ProcyonLotor> If you would like to do so, I will call another op to hear it.
8:01 PM <Cephalon> Sure, I guess…
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8:01 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Alright, which one of my fellow ops would like to hear this out?
8:02 PM <Cephalon> I'm insanely excited about working on an SCP, too, and I feel real disappointed that I can't get suggestions in chat now
8:03 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Well, your behavior is your fault.
8:03 PM <Cephalon> Not debating responsibility.
8:03 PM <•ProcyonLotor> You're not going to guilt trip me based on your own defiance
8:03 PM <Cephalon> Debating punishment.
8:03 PM <Cephalon> Dude, it was a minor incursion in the first place.
8:03 PM <•ProcyonLotor> A week ban is the first step up from a warning.
8:03 PM <Cephalon> A meme was it.
8:03 PM <Cephalon> Wait, where does it say that?
8:04 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Chat guide
8:04 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Which is mandatory readingA
8:04 PM <•ProcyonLotor> *!
8:04 PM <Cephalon> Does it say a week? I don't remember seeing a week.
8:04 PM <Cephalon> I just remember it saying a ban.
8:04 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Well then you obviously didn't read it to the full extent we require you to
8:04 PM <•ProcyonLotor> But bro, I'm going to level with you
8:04 PM <Cephalon> I just don't have photographic memory.
8:05 PM <Cephalon> I can't remember every document word-for-word
8:05 PM <•ProcyonLotor> You can either appeal, which will necessitate you sitting quietly until I find someone else to hear it
8:05 PM <Cephalon> I was willing to do that in the first place
8:05 PM <Cephalon> I
8:05 PM <•ARD> Alright
8:05 PM <Cephalon> Whoops
8:05 PM <•ARD> I shall hear you out
8:05 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Or attempt to debate it with me, which will result in me telling you to go shove for a week
8:05 PM <•ARD> Appeal now Cephalon
8:05 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Thank you, ARD.
8:05 PM <Cephalon> Alright, so:
8:05 PM <Cephalon> To recap the facts:
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8:05 PM <Cephalon> Yes, I absolutely did post a Uganda Knuckles meme.> 8:06 PM <•ARD> Mhm
8:06 PM <Cephalon> Yes, once I was kicked, I did make a few references.
8:06 PM <Cephalon> No, I don't think a week ban is appropriate, given it wasn't directly hurting anyone or disrupting the site, nor am I debating responsibility.
8:07 PM <Cephalon> I really didn't think it was that serious, but since it is, you have my word I won't do it again.
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8:07 PM <Cephalon> I've never heard anyone say 'Ugandan knuckles is racist'
8:07 PM <Cephalon> Kinda thought you were half-kidding.
8:07 PM <Cephalon> But ehhh
8:07 PM <Cephalon> Your call
8:07 PM <•ARD> Why would we kid about calling it racist
8:08 PM <Cephalon> Because it was never intended to be racist, and I don't see any reason for labeling it as such.
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8:08 PM <Cephalon> It's just the accent that's being mocked, but it's actually funny and really has nothing to do with race.
8:08 PM <Choi> How do we know if we got accepted to this site?
8:09 PM <•ARD> mocking an accent is still racism.
8:09 PM <•Decibelle> Choi: wikidot will notify you
8:09 PM <Cephalon> How..?
8:09 PM <Choi> Ok thank You
8:09 PM <PeppersGhost> Cephalon: "It's only mocking the accents of a particular nationality"
8:09 PM <Cephalon> Does that mean mocking a British accent is racist?
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8:10 PM <Cephalon> In, also, in no way implies that 'ugandan accents are worse than regular accents'
8:10 PM <Cephalon> It's literally humor
8:10 PM <•Decibelle> PeppersGhost: operators can handle it
8:10 PM <Cephalon> Has nothing at all to do with race
8:11 PM — PeppersGhost nods
8:11 PM <Cephalon> In order for it to be racist, it has to denote a desparaging quality.
8:11 PM <Cephalon> Which it doesn't, hence, it's not racist.
8:11 PM <Cephalon> Even if it is,
8:11 PM <Cephalon> I hope you can see why I'
8:11 PM <Cephalon> Whoops
8:11 PM <Cephalon> Why I'm confused
8:11 PM <Cephalon> And that I
8:12 PM <Cephalon> Omfg stupid enter key
8:12 PM <•Decibelle> Cephalon: there is a thing called a power imbalance, where mocking those who are oppressed and without power is a way to put them down and keep them in such a state
8:12 PM <Cephalon> And that I never meant to piss anyone off.
8:12 PM <•ARD> Cephalon: what do you call the incessant clicking or the repetition of "u do not know de wae"? I'm not really about to debate the point with you.
8:12 PM <•Decibelle> so if we're to go by your question of:
8:12 PM <Cephalon> BRB one sec
8:12 PM <•ARD> Alright. I'll cap this short then. Appeal denied.
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8:13 PM <•ARD> You may return in one week Cephalon
8:13 PM <Cephalon> My monitor is flickering hold on
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8:13 PM <•ARD> Fine. I'll let you finish.
8:13 PM <Cephalon> Alright, so
8:13 PM <Cephalon> I never thought of it as- oh for christ sakes stupid monitor omfg
8:14 PM <•ARD> look if you can't finish your appeal I can't shorten it
8:14 PM <Cephalon> Trying to fix this damn thing -.-
8:14 PM <Cephalon> Okay seems to finally be fixed
8:14 PM <Cephalon> As I was saying,
8:15 PM <Cephalon> I never meant to be racist, even if it was racist. I never thought of it that way.
8:15 PM <•ARD> Well you were being racist anyways.
8:15 PM <Cephalon> Given that, I won't do it anymore, and I'm fully accepting responsibility.
8:15 PM <Cephalon> Okay, name exactly what I said that was racist before the Ugandan Knuckles
8:16 PM <Cephalon> In my exact words.
8:16 PM <Cephalon> Racism isn't a broad spectrum.
8:16 PM <•ARD> yes. it is.
8:16 PM <Cephalon> It's a very specific type of insult.
8:16 PM <Cephalon> ARD, I'm starting to lose it a little. Name exactly what I said that you deemed racist.
8:16 PM <•ARD> we're done, I think. Appeal denied. You may return to #site19 in seven days.
8:16 PM <Cephalon> Fine. But I'd like to know what I said.
8:17 PM <•ARD> Read the up scroll.
8:17 PM <•Decibelle> http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-5475047/cephalonsuda there is also this thread containing logs
8:17 PM <•Decibelle> if you wish to know what you said
8:17 PM <Cephalon> Okay, which one of the 50 posts were racist?
8:17 PM <•ARD> Cephalon: if you have any questions that can't be answered by paying attention to the chat logs from the last several minutes, ask now
8:18 PM <Cephalon> It's missing a line.
8:18 PM <•ARD> •ARD> Cephalon: what do you call the incessant clicking or the repetition of "u do not know de wae"? I'm not really about to debate the point with you.
8:19 PM <•ARD> Do you have any other questions?
8:19 PM <Cephalon> The clicking, not sure it has absolutely anything to do with anything else. It's just one of the random meme qualities
8:19 PM <Cephalon> But I see absolutely no way it's racist.
8:19 PM <•ProcyonLotor> It's an African language.
8:19 PM <Cephalon> What is?
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8:20 PM <Cephalon> Stop kicking me.
8:20 PM <Cephalon> That's all you had to say, valid explaination.
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8:20 PM <Cephalon> I'd like some respect, though.
8:20 PM <•ARD> You need to earn it
8:20 PM <•ARD> Now if you have no further questions, please leave.
8:20 PM <Cephalon> I've been nothing but cooperative.
8:21 PM <•Decibelle> site17 isnt a place to discuss the fine nuances of racism and what it means and how it applies directly to your chat ban, especially if you dont want to show any actual good faith in the discussion or actually learn what you did wrong
8:21 PM <•Decibelle> your appeal was denied minutes ago
8:21 PM <•Decibelle> "[20:17] <@ARD> Cephalon: if you have any questions that can't be answered by paying attention to the chat logs from the last several minutes, ask now"
8:21 PM <Cephalon> I had no idea it was racist, all I'm trying to prove is why I didn't think it was racist
8:22 PM <Cephalon> But I'm being driven in circles by the whole 'it's racist' thing
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8:22 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Then the proper response to having been kicked would have been to clarify instead of redoing the thing
8:22 PM <Cephalon> Prob right then
8:22 PM <Cephalon> Don't know what else to say
8:22 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Then leave.
8:22 PM <•Decibelle> it has been explained to you and you choose to continue to drag out the argument. dunno what you want here bud.
8:23 PM <•ARD> You could have said "I'm sorry it won't happen again" but we all make mistakes
8:23 PM <Cephalon> IDK either. But I'm going to go have a good self-injuring session
8:23 PM <Cephalon> See ya
8:23 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Okay permanent ban
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8:23 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Bye
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8:23 PM <Cephalon> Okay, wait
8:23 PM <Cephalon> Stop
8:23 PM •Decibelle banned *!*@synIRC-BB1C809.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com (+b)
8:23 PM <•ARD> Adios
8:23 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Nooope
8:23 PM <•Decibelle> see you
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TL;DR since much of this log was utterly fine and wouldn't have resulted in a perma extension except for this part at the end:
8:22 PM <Cephalon> Prob right then
8:22 PM <Cephalon> Don't know what else to say
8:22 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Then leave.
8:22 PM <•Decibelle> it has been explained to you and you choose to continue to drag out the argument. dunno what you want here bud.
8:23 PM <•ARD> You could have said "I'm sorry it won't happen again" but we all make mistakes
8:23 PM <Cephalon> IDK either. But I'm going to go have a good self-injuring session
8:23 PM <Cephalon> See ya
8:23 PM <•ProcyonLotor> Okay permanent ban
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