mod solidarity

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tunedtoadeadchannel
Date: 10 Sep 2010 21:40
Number of posts: 19

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if we don't agree with one another's decisions, the least we can do is keep our infighting out of the public eye.

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tunedtoadeadchannel 10 Sep 2010 21:40

Guys.

And by guys I mostly mean waxx. It happens with others, but you're the main offender, and that's not just my opinion.

Seriously? At what point did we decide that it was okay to question one another's moderative decisions in front of the regular users?

here's a log of waxx flipping out in 19.

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16:17 * Projekt616 was kicked by pooryoric (nicks with names in them are against the rules of this channel as outlined in the chat guide. please change your nick and rejoin)
16:17 Quikngruvn *numbers.
16:18 Waxx …why are names with numbers not allowed?
16:18 Quikngruvn Dunno.
16:18 BlackWing Ecks:……
16:18 BlackWing Dear god
16:18 Tuomey Because they
16:18 BlackWing All those eggs
16:18 Tuomey *they're stupid
16:18 Tuomey Example: Tuomey666
16:18 Superposition http://projecteuler.net/index.php?section=problems&id=300
16:18 Grain_Of_sand Waxx:For the fear of getting people named Joe1,Joe2,Joe3, etc
16:19 Waxx Why do you even care what people put in their nicks
16:19 Grain_Of_sand Though I personally think it could be an awesome prank to pull
16:19 Waxx Are we really getting that strict about it
16:19 BlackWing Projekt is a stupid name anyway
16:19 Waxx I dress as a fucking nazi and even I think that's a stupid idea
16:19 BlackWing Even without the 616 in the name
16:19 Quikngruvn Apparently it bugs some people.
16:19 Waxx Well apparently some people need to lighten the fuck up
16:19 Waxx Do you not have better things to be bitching about than people having numbers on the internet
16:19 pooryoric because when we let people in calling themselves l33tz0r56 they /act/ like people called l33tz0r56
16:20 Waxx Yoric, come on
16:20 Tuomey Yoric makes a good point there
16:20 Waxx You and I both know that wasn't anything close to that
16:20 Dr_Schubert Slippery slope argument doesn't work Yoric.
16:20 Dr_Schubert Logical fallacy, one point Waxx.
16:20 pooryoric we can't make exception to rules
16:20 * Dr_Schubert was kicked by Waxx (no numbers in names lol)
16:20 * Dr_Schubert joined #site19
16:20 pooryoric if we kick one person for an overnumbered nick we have to kick them all to stay consistent
16:21 Waxx That's irrelevant, it shouldn't even -be- a rule
16:21 pooryoric take that up with paradox, mate
16:21 pooryoric I dunno why you always question me as though I'm the one making the rules here
16:21 pooryoric :/
16:21 Kald Hey, Waxx isn't your mate, buddy
16:21 Waxx If you want to get specific about rules yoric
16:22 pooryoric I'll mate with waxx whenever I damn well please
16:22 Waxx The number thing isn't even a rule, it's a suggestion
16:22 Tuomey Yoric isn't your buddy, friend
16:22 pooryoric I mean, uh
16:22 pooryoric blush
16:22 BlackWing He's not your friend, buddy
16:22 Linwood Somebody send me Red Cliff II (the blu ray version) now or people are going to die!
16:22 * Carter quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
16:22 Waxx Linwood no roman numerals allowed
16:22 Grain_Of_sand Kill me off first
16:22 Waxx Against chat suggestions
16:23 Clef waxx
16:23 Waxx Next time is a 10 minute ban pending approval of three higher admins
16:23 Clef Waxx
16:23 Clef WAXX
16:23 Clef WAAAAAXX!
16:23 Waxx CLEF
16:23 Waxx am i an otaku yet
16:23 Clef WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAX!
16:23 Linwood Waxx, it's the name of a film :|
16:23 Clef no. :|
16:23 pooryoric X
16:23 Tuomey Mission failed?
16:23 Clef am I?
16:23 Waxx Clef you always were an otaku
16:23 Tuomey Linwood: He was joking
16:23 Clef okay :)
16:23 Waxx Linwood I was not joking
16:23 Clef hi
16:23 Waxx We have to be consistent with our number policy here
16:23 pooryoric he looks pretty serious, linwood
16:23 Waxx If I allow one person to go around saying numbers then I have to allow everyone
16:23 Waxx So no numbers
16:24 Quikngruvn Um, Waxx.
16:24 * Clef is now known as Liv
16:24 pooryoric I think you should offer him sex to get out of it
16:24 Superposition 1337
16:24 Liv so Liv is okay
16:24 Liv but
16:24 * Liv is now known as LIV
16:24 Linwood Waxx, but you yourself just used a roman numeral in your sentence
16:24 LIV LIV is not?
16:24 Quikngruvn <Waxx> Next time is a 10 minute ban pending approval of three higher admins
16:24 BlackWing LIV is just Liv only yelling
16:24 Linwood <Waxx> If I allow one person to go around saying numbers then I have to allow everyone
16:24 Linwood As such you have to ban the capital letter form of i
16:24 Quikngruvn Man, what a hypocrite.
16:24 LIV LIV is 54
16:24 pooryoric happy birthday
16:24 Waxx No, that's not a number
16:25 Waxx It's a pronoun
16:25 Waxx You can't ban pronouns
16:25 BlackWing 6 days till Pokemon Black and White come out in Japan
16:25 Waxx BLACKWING
16:25 Waxx first strike
16:25 LIV then one have to allow everyone?
16:25 Linwood Waxx, I no speak no engrish good
16:25 LIV that makes no sense
16:25 LIV 54!

Here's a conversation in admin chat about the incident.

Look. It's understandable that once in a while a member of staff will disagree with another's judgement. That's fine. But it is never okay to bring moderative infighting or disagreement to the attention of the userbase. It makes us all look weak, and undermines authority. It promotes the idea that white knighting against the staff a la aesop is not only acceptable but encouraged, and it's just crass.

If a member of staff disagrees with another staff member, that shit should be handled via PM or in one of the exclusive channels, out of sight of new users. Publicly, we need to promote a facade of unity. When stuff like this goes down, that doesn't happen.

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Pair Of Ducks 11 Sep 2010 10:13

Yoric, I'm kind of pissed that you thought kicking was the first resort for this issue. Sometimes just fucking telling newbies "Hey, we generally try to avoid usernames with numbers here" is the way to do it. I know I'm probably guilty of not doing this sometimes. Well, I was wrong, and we have to try to do things differently now. I don't think his name was really problematic in any case.

Also, uh, the whole "No numbers in screen-names" thing … -I- never made that a rule. I think people just sort of assumed that was a rule? If I did, I certainly meant more along the lines of '1337h4x0r" not "Projekt616". It is absolutely ridiculous to say that these are the same thing, and we -HAVE- to say that -all- usernames can't have numbers. Time to go over some rules myths.

I, Paradox, have never explicitly disallowed any of the following:
- Generic Names
- Names with Numbers
- The discussion of politics
- The discussion of religion
- The discussion of sex

Things I -have- explicitly asked people not to do
- Very long names
- Offensive Names
- Be an idiot (This one is important. Even though a lot of thing above are not explicitly disallowed, if they are also being an idiot when discussing/doing those things, THAT is the problem)

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