[10:33:07] <Aelanna> I'm starting to think like Kon, and I don't like it >:|
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[10:33:45] <Quikngruvn> Are you virulently anti-furry?
[10:34:07] <Quikngruvn> And violently, for that matter.
[10:34:14] <DWR> Ael? Hell no.
[10:34:23] <Aelanna> No, Rights made me furry :|
[10:34:34] * Aelanna hugs Nala
[10:34:35] * Nala squeaks at Aelanna
[10:34:44] <Quikngruvn> Well there you go. Little chance of turning into Kondraki.
[10:34:48] <Bright> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_sex_ed_wisconsin
[10:35:32] <Frank_Horrigan> Oh God Bright what is this
[10:35:36] <Gideon> I never had any issue with Kon.
[10:35:36] <Frank_Horrigan> Will I hate you forever for reading it?
[10:35:44] <Zander> Theory: Kon secretly is a butterfly otherkin.
[10:35:45] <Wadling> Ok so if it gets criticised as bad writing a lot I'll remove it for sure, yours is just the first complaint I've had about it y'see
[10:36:19] <Aelanna> I'm not a moderator or senior staff
[10:36:24] <Aelanna> Ultimately my opinion doesn't mean anything
[10:36:33] <Aelanna> And I've had more articles deleted than most people have ever written >.>
[10:36:41] * Rights pets Nala
[10:36:42] * Nala squirms
[10:36:47] <Gideon> Wait wait wait.
[10:36:53] <Gideon> Go back a second, to that thing about Kon.
[10:36:59] <Bright> you'll prolly hate wisconsion frank
[10:37:01] <Aelanna> I just see the Foundation has more of a "serious black organization" than "slapstick creepypasta comedy"
[10:37:05] <Quikngruvn> Which thing?
[10:37:06] <Gideon> Wasn't he, like, one of the best writers on the site?
[10:37:12] <Gideon> The thing about thinking like him.
[10:37:19] <Gideon> And how that's a bad thing.
[10:37:20] <Aelanna> ^ questionable
[10:37:27] <Rights> Bright, I see you found our state shame
[10:37:29] <Rights> :|
[10:37:37] <Gideon> Couldn't the problem be more with your lines of thought?
[10:37:49] <DWR> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igKKWJw88Kk
[10:37:50] <Gideon> Hell, I've been annoyed less by Kon than half the people here.
[10:38:02] <Quikngruvn> Then there was that whole power trip thing….
[10:38:07] <Rights> You've obviously never tried to be in a RP with Kon
[10:38:11] <Aelanna> ^
[10:38:13] <Gideon> I was there for it.
[10:38:16] =-= Gideon is now known as Crim
[10:38:24] <Crim> I was Crim, remember?
[10:38:37] * Rights blink
[10:38:48] =-= Crim is now known as Gideon
[10:38:55] <Gideon> He wasn't that bad.
[10:39:02] <Gideon> I've dealt with plenty worse.
[10:39:05] <Aelanna> You were never the target of his ire
[10:39:07] <Gideon> And as to power trips?
[10:39:22] <Gideon> Shit, happens to the best of us.
[10:39:23] <Aelanna> Gideon, let me put it into perspective
[10:39:24] <Rights> Indeed
[10:39:28] <Aelanna> Gideon: listen :P
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[10:39:31] <Rights> You probably were never one of his targets
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[10:39:36] <Gideon> Fucking Waxx banned me for talking too much at one point.
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[10:39:45] <Gideon> No one talks about him.
[10:39:49] <Aelanna> A regular Joe with a bad mouth on a power trip is just a jerk.
[10:39:55] <apotheosis> Oh lord, Lawrence Fishburne looks lumpy.
[10:40:04] <Aelanna> A site admin with a bad mouth on a power trip is a liability to the whole community.
[10:40:07] <Aelanna> Get the picture now? :|
[10:40:10] <Gideon> No.
[10:40:12] <Gideon> Not really.
[10:40:15] <Quikngruvn> Waxx hasn't tried to take over the whole wiki.
[10:40:16] <Rights> That's because Waxx has yet to PM me and swear and insult me for hours straight like Kon did
[10:40:22] <Rights> :|
[10:40:25] <Aelanna> Then I pray to God you never get a position of responsibility.
[10:40:26] <Frank_Horrigan> Wisconsin: I AM DISAPPOINT.
[10:40:30] <Rights> Kon wasn't such a bad guy in the chat
[10:40:35] <Rights> But if he got you in PMs
[10:40:44] <Rights> Or when not a lot of people were around
[10:40:45] <Gideon> And?
[10:40:46] <Gideon> He's not here.
[10:40:57] <Rights> It would literally be hours of nothing but bitching and cursing and getting kicked repeatedly
[10:40:58] <Gideon> Hell, I talked to him privately once or twice.
[10:41:02] <Gideon> He was a nice enough guy.
[10:41:03] <Quikngruvn> No… he's not.
[10:41:05] <Rights> You and him probably got along
[10:41:09] <Rights> I know I get along with Kon just fine
[10:41:14] <Aelanna> Even psychos have friends. >:|
[10:41:16] <DWR> Anyone seems nice if you get along.
[10:41:16] <Gideon> You ever think that maybe, just maybe, he's not the only one with issues?
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[10:41:21] <Quikngruvn> OK. Gideon.
[10:41:22] <Rights> And sometimes he was a really nice guy
[10:41:26] <Rights> But he was too confrontational
[10:41:28] <Gideon> I mean, hell, most of this chat is a big, big issue.
[10:41:36] <Rights> And decided that he was going to take over the /wiki/
[10:41:37] <Gideon> A huuuuge circlejerk.
[10:41:42] <Rights> We didn't care that much about the chat
[10:41:45] <Quikngruvn> Kondraki found out someone was a furry and followed him into Second Like and harassed him there.
[10:41:46] <Rights> The problem was his abuse on the Wiki
[10:41:53] <Rights> and the fact that he /stalked/ people outside of the wiki and shat
[10:41:54] <Rights> *chat
[10:41:57] <Rights> Which is just *creepy*
[10:42:02] <Quikngruvn> Yes. Stalking.
[10:42:04] <Rights> And a precident we want to discourage
[10:42:10] <Gideon> Stalking how?
[10:42:15] <Rights> Following them to Second Life
[10:42:19] <Oresthin> was he megabanned or just deadmined?
[10:42:20] <Gideon> oooh.
[10:42:21] <Aelanna> Again, the difference between a jerk and a liability is how much power they have.
[10:42:21] <Rights> Using avatars to troll them
[10:42:30] <Gideon> That's…
[10:42:30] <Gideon> Wow.
[10:42:34] <Gideon> You are all bitches.
[10:42:35] <Quikngruvn> Uh huh.
[10:42:38] <Gideon> That's hilarious.
[10:42:40] <Rights> Making multiple different personas to continue to troll them and then revealing private information about them on the chat and wiki
[10:42:43] <Aelanna> Millions of people have affairs every day, but if the president does it, it's a huge scandal.
[10:42:45] <Rights> That's overboard, Gideon
[10:42:50] <Rights> He wa a mod
[10:42:54] <Oresthin> admin
[10:42:57] <Gideon> He was a guy.
[10:42:58] <Rights> And was supposed to act respectful to some degree
[10:43:00] <Rights> Admin, yes
[10:43:01] <Gideon> On a computer.
[10:43:09] <DWR> In a position of power.
[10:43:09] <Rights> Yes, he was
[10:43:12] <Gideon> Same as the rest of us.
[10:43:16] <Aelanna> No, he wasn't.
[10:43:17] <Clef> Gideon
[10:43:20] <Aelanna> sigh
[10:43:21] <Clef> please clarify, what is your issue here?
[10:43:24] * Aelanna facepalm
[10:43:25] <Rights> But we expected him to show some respect here, like the rest of us admins and mods try to do
[10:43:43] <Aelanna> Gideon is trying to defend Kon's actions
[10:43:45] <Rights> If he wanted to stalk and troll users on other websites he was a part of, fine with that
[10:43:45] <Gideon> Treating a guy that's not here anymore like shit.
[10:43:50] <Gideon> No, Aelanna, I'm not.
[10:43:51] <pookleblinky> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/geogo3r/FurryChart.jpg
[10:44:04] <Gideon> I'm trying to get you to quit being a, well, a bitch.
[10:44:04] <Aelanna> I'm not treating him like shit
[10:44:08] <Gideon> The dude is gone.
[10:44:17] <Aelanna> You asked why he's gone
[10:44:17] <Quikngruvn> And we do not want a repeat of the situation.
[10:44:18] <Aelanna> I told you
[10:44:21] <Gideon> Quit being insulting, particularly when he's not here to defend himself.
[10:44:22] <Oresthin> he's not being treated like shit, honestly, all I've heard is legitimate complaints about his actions and explanations of /why/ he's gone.
[10:44:22] <Aelanna> He abused his power. He was removed.
[10:44:35] <Aelanna> I'm not being insulting.
[10:44:38] <Aelanna> Neither are the others.
[10:44:40] <Clef> Okay
[10:44:41] <DWR> Gideon, methinks thou dost protest too much.
[10:44:43] <Clef> what triggered this?
[10:44:49] <pookleblinky> http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2009/06/SHEEP-CAT-BIRD-CHESS.jpg is awesome
[10:44:50] <Rights> We're just stating what he did and why we aren't fans of him anymore
[10:44:57] <Aelanna> Gideon asked why kon isn't around any more.
[10:44:58] <Quikngruvn> Aelanna was worried she is starting to think like Kondraki.
[10:45:00] <Aelanna> We explained why.
[10:45:05] <Clef> Okay.
[10:45:05] <Aelanna> Oh, I guess that too.
[10:45:08] <Gideon> And she doesn't like it.
[10:45:18] <Clef> Gideon, you asked an honest question and got an honest answer
[10:45:19] <Gideon> Quik, you jumped in with the whole Violent anti furry thing.
[10:45:29] <apotheosis> wait
[10:45:30] <Quikngruvn> Yes. Yes I did.
[10:45:37] <Aelanna> And that's truth. Not an insult.
[10:45:38] <apotheosis> now being anti-furry is bad?
[10:45:53] <Rights> I'm a furry. I don't care what people think so long as people don't sponatniously bash it
[10:45:56] <Clef> Okay
[10:45:57] <Aelanna> Hating furries isn't. It's an opinion.
[10:45:59] <Quikngruvn> No, but stalking people into Second Life because of it is.
[10:45:59] <Clef> everyone fucking pipe down.
[10:46:06] <apotheosis> well
[10:46:07] <Rights> Yessir
[10:46:08] <Gideon> The dude's not here anymore.
[10:46:11] <Bright> Rights! Did you see my link about yer fucked up state?
[10:46:16] <Rights> I did, Bright
[10:46:17] <Clef> Gideon, shut the fuck up and listen.
[10:46:17] <Gideon> Leave him alone now.
[10:46:18] <Rights> I know
[10:46:19] <apotheosis> Stalking anyone for any reason is effed up, I dunno that furry has anything to do with it
[10:46:24] <Bright> Did you break the law?
[10:46:30] <Rights> I BROKE DE LAW
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[10:46:39] <apotheosis> :/
[10:46:45] <Clef> Okay
[10:46:48] <Clef> long story short
[10:47:09] <Clef> Kondraki was banned for a consistent pattern of behavior that is considered beyond the pale, even for this chat.
[10:47:14] <Bright> ahaha. I think that was my favorite part, that having sex under the age of consent can get you arressted. CONSENTUAL SEX IS BAD!
[10:47:20] <Gideon> Super.
[10:47:26] <Gideon> I don't care WHY he was banned.
[10:47:32] <Gideon> He IS banned, however.
[10:47:36] <Gideon> And not here anymore.
[10:47:48] <Gideon> Hell, if he were here, he might be a really, really nice guy now.
[10:47:55] <Rights> …
[10:47:58] <Aelanna> …
[10:48:05] <Rights> As somebody who stil is in contact with Kon on a regular basis
[10:48:07] <Rights> I'm not touchin' that oen
[10:48:21] <Gideon> Instead of treating someone with any degree of respect, however, he seems to be something like a fuckin insult.
[10:48:24] <Gideon> A joke.
[10:48:34] <Rights> Tho I haven't talked to him since I ditched DnD due to copious amounts of lesbian cybering
[10:48:36] <Clef> Gideon
[10:48:44] <Gideon> What, Clef?
[10:48:46] <Clef> you will pipe down or get a 24 hour ban
[10:48:50] <Clef> listen closely
[10:48:51] <Gideon> What?
[10:48:53] <Gideon> That's bullshit.
[10:48:58] <Clef> we mean a consistent and unchanging pattern of behavior
[10:49:02] <Gideon> And?
[10:49:03] <Gideon> He's gone.
[10:49:07] <Gideon> Lay off him.
[10:49:07] <Rights> Clef
[10:49:11] <Oresthin> Clef
[10:49:12] <Rights> I think what Gideon's trying to say
[10:49:13] * Aelanna facepalm
[10:49:16] <Rights> Is that we shouldn't be discussing this anyways
[10:49:20] <Rights> Since Kon isn't here anymore
[10:49:28] <Rights> And there's no reason for us all to be nagging on about it
[10:49:31] <Clef> Gideon, did you ask?
[10:49:32] <DWR> I'd agree if it weren't Gideon that keeps bringing it up.
[10:49:33] <Rights> So I think the conversation should end
[10:49:42] <Aelanna> I'm with DWR.
[10:49:43] <Gideon> Not what I'm saying, not exactly.
[10:49:47] <Rights> We keep bringing it up too DWR and Aelanna
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[10:49:53] <Aelanna> You asked about it. We answered.
[10:49:54] <Oresthin> DWR, I don't think he kept bringing it up
[10:49:56] <Aelanna> Don't bash on us for it.
[10:49:58] <Rights> And then we /kept/ answering
[10:50:01] <Rights> When we could have gone quiet
[10:50:03] <Gideon> I'm saying the guy isn't here anymore, so don't bring him up at all.
[10:50:03] <DWR> No, you kept responding to Gideon.
[10:50:12] <DWR> And Gideon kept asking more.
[10:50:17] <Oresthin> Okay conversation over?
[10:50:18] <Gideon> What's the phrase?
[10:50:21] <DWR> If he doesn't want answers, don't ask questions.
[10:50:28] <Gideon> If you haven't got anything nice to say, shut the fuck up?
[10:50:28] <Frank_Horrigan> Time to change the fucking subject.
[10:50:30] <Frank_Horrigan> Who likes pizza?
[10:50:34] <Oresthin> I do!
[10:50:37] <Tom90deg> I do :-D
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[10:50:39] <Rights> I'm actually not a fan of pizza in whole
[10:50:42] <Oresthin> But mostly plain, so I'm boring
[10:50:44] <DWR> Ludious: have some pizza.
[10:50:44] <Gideon> Ah, Site 19.
[10:50:45] <Aelanna> Civilization and culture are built on the knowledge of those who have gone before us.
[10:50:46] <Rights> I don't like tomato sauce
[10:50:48] <Rights> Pizza's nice sometimes
[10:50:48] <Tom90deg> I like Hawian pizza myself
[10:50:53] <Clef> Gideon. Last warning. Drop it.
[10:50:54] <apotheosis> I love pizza except when I'm eating it while wasting two hours of my life reading Boatmurdered
[10:50:56] <Clef> We're dropping it now.
[10:50:57] <Rights> Aelanna we're discussing Kondraki, not the fall of rome
[10:50:58] <Ludious> fucking fuck fuck FUCK. Fucking Sandbox fucking ate my fucking SCP. I was almost DONE. It didn't save any of my changes. FUCK.
[10:50:58] <Aelanna> If you're going to censor our cultural history, then go be Nazi elsewhere. That's my view.
[10:51:00] <Rights> Pizza discussion now
[10:51:02] <Tom90deg> Ahh, Boatmurdered :-D
[10:51:06] <Frank_Horrigan> Were talking about pizza now
[10:51:07] <Oresthin> Pizza!
[10:51:09] <Gideon> Eat a dick, Clef.
[10:51:11] <DWR> Lud: I write in .txt files first.
[10:51:12] <Quikngruvn> Aelanna, it's over.
[10:51:14] <Gideon> Talk about power trips.
[10:51:15] <Rights> AELANNA IT'S OVER
[10:51:17] <Rights> >|
[10:51:18] =-= Mode #site19 +b *!*@synIRC-540E27CC.cfl.res.rr.com by Clef
[10:51:18] =-= Gideon was booted from #site19 by Clef (Clef)
[10:51:19] <Aelanna> I'm done.
[10:51:20] <Aelanna> :|
[10:51:21] * DWR facepalm
[10:51:21] <Oresthin> Gideon… that was rather stupid
[10:51:26] <Oresthin> anyway
[10:51:28] <Frank_Horrigan> Jesus fucking pizza.
[10:51:29] <Oresthin> Pizza!
[10:51:30] <Rights> I don't blame him
[10:51:43] <Wadling> Damn that last comment was stupid
[10:51:44] <Ludious> Well I mean he does have a point Clef. Dicks are fortified in Protein
[10:51:45] <Oresthin> yes, but there's a line between principled opposition and stupid disrespect
[10:51:48] <DWR> I do. Everyone else was dropping it, he wouldn't.
[10:51:51] <Rights> So?
[10:51:58] <apotheosis> Pizza is awesome.
[10:51:58] <Rights> I've gotten 24 hours bans from mods before
[10:52:03] <Rights> because I wouldn't stop arguing
[10:52:11] <Rights> It happens, he'll probably come back int a day and it'll never be mentioned again
[10:52:18] <Frank_Horrigan> I might go out and get pizza today.
[10:52:26] <apotheosis> Stuffed pizza, not so much.
[10:52:27] <Oresthin> Anyway, pizza
[10:52:36] <Tom90deg> Pizza is the only bloody thing that tasts good here
[10:52:39] <Ludious> I have a pizza story.
[10:52:41] <Oresthin> I'm in Germany, they don't make good pizza.
[10:52:43] <Tom90deg> hehe, tasts like America :-D
[10:52:44] <Frank_Horrigan> I probably should, since theres next to nothing to eat here.
[10:52:45] <DWR> There was a level of cognitive dissonance involved. And I'm going to avoid talking about it.
[10:52:53] <Frank_Horrigan> DWR:
[10:52:54] <Frank_Horrigan> PIZZA! :D
[10:52:57] <Oresthin> thank you.
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[10:53:04] * DWR throws pizza like ninja stars.
[10:53:11] <Frank_Horrigan> Oshi- pizza ninja
[10:53:14] <Oresthin> that's gotta be messy
[10:53:16] <Ludious> A good friend of mine used to deliver pizzas for Dominos for a living. We lived in "the bad part of town", if you will.
[10:53:17] <Tom90deg> India makes ok pizza, at least the Dominos is ok
[10:53:18] <Clef> Could someone not using mibbit please pastebin that? Thank you.
[10:53:34] <Aelanna> Pastebin what? The chat log?
[10:53:35] <DWR> Clef: from where to where?
[10:53:38] <Clef> whole conversation, since the beginning.
I'm really not sure how I could have handled this better. Perhaps less swearing. However, it seems to me that Gideon was scrapping for a fight and basically got one.
He does have a point, though. We need to stop insulting Kon when he's not here to defend himself.
If anyone thinks I was out of line, I'll accept that.