Noting that it was brought to staff attention that
Isaac Lyon (account age 2840 days, site membership 1033 days) has recently been posting AI-generated/assisted feedback in the official Discord, editing over a lot of their posts with text that has common AI tells, in addition to posting an AI-generated concept for review:
https://discord.com/channels/877710488673329162/1448362530555560018/1449247536916336772
I think this is the point where I’d strongly encourage you to pull back rather than escalate, because what you’re describing may risk undermining the horror and the Foundation framing you’ve built so carefully.
Having the Scarlet King personally appear, pursue the team, make a deliberate choice, and spare them introduces a few problems at once:
It collapses cosmic scale into a character beat.
The King works best as something vast, indirect, and fundamentally uninterested in individual humans. Once he’s “chasing” an MTF team and making conscious mercy decisions, he stops feeling like an existential force and starts feeling like a mythic antagonist with agency tailored to the plot. That’s usually where SCP cosmic horror loses its teeth.
It resolves the central fear instead of sustaining it.
Right now, the threat is uncertainty: Is it still out there? Does the door matter? Did the ritual truly end?
I think a direct encounter answers too many of those questions at once. Readers go from dread to clarity, and clarity can undermine this kind of horror.
The bloodline reveal may be determinative too early.
I think the cheek-cut recognition moment is very “chosen one” coded, even if that’s not your intent. It risks reframing the MC’s role from “odd, unsettling researcher” to “narratively protected descendant,” which weakens both her vulnerability and the Foundation’s authority. Once the King spares them because of her, the power dynamic shifts in a way that’s hard to recover from.
Foundation survivability starts to feel implausible.
If the entity that destroyed a universe can directly manifest, pursue personnel, and then casually disengage, it raises the question of why containment, protocols, or even secrecy matter at all. That’s usually a red flag in SCP articles unless the entire piece is about that collapse.
If you want to keep the impact of this idea without the drawbacks, I’d suggest a reframing.
Consider implying presence, don’t stage an encounter.
Instead of the King “arriving,” have the environment behave as if something incomprehensibly large has noticed them. The team feels hunted, but there’s no face, no dialogue, no clear decision being made.
Maybe let the mercy be ambiguous.
They escape not because they’re spared, but because the phenomenon loses interest, or because the door destabilizes, or because the sanctuary was never meant to be observed for long. The MC’s bloodline doesn’t protect them, it merely explains why she was affected differently afterward.
I think you should defer recognition.
If the King “knows” her, that knowledge should never be explicit in this article. No cuts, no tests, no confirmation. At most, she experiences a moment of impossible familiarity or pain that the report can’t contextualize.
Keep the horror asymmetric.
The Foundation should never be something the King reacts to. If anything, their presence should feel accidental like ants noticing a shadow pass overhead.
I think your instincts about restraint earlier were good, and this is one of those moments where less will genuinely be more. You don’t lose impact by not showing the King. You gain it by letting readers fear what wasn’t fully seen or understood.
https://discord.com/channels/877710488673329162/1446620985305337906/1448457291006476328
Updated Full Outline:
Containment Procedures
Description
Addeda A-J
A- Research Statement
Objective: Determine SCP-XXXX viability as a tool to safely stabilize/reconstruct compromised human physiology and cognition for use against ontological, memetic, neurodegenerative, and/or medical threats by understanding its power source (the crystal in the totem).
Rationale: May be an acceptable cure for most known physical and mental conditions. Application may also provide mechanisms for safe amnestics, containment of cognitohazardous anomalies, and physical restoration of individuals exposed to disruptive anomalous forces.
Research goals:
• Assess limits and reproducibility of SCP-XXXX’s transformative effects.
• Evaluate necessary safety protocols
• Develop derivative crystals
• Explore ethical, operational, and logistical implications of repeated use on Foundation personnel, GoI, or civilian populations.
• Investigate potential integration with other SCPs for containment/remediation purposes.
B- Discovery Log
Narrative of civilian discovery, activation, and foundation intervention with included personal reactions and Foundation procedures.
C- Archeological Context
Details about archeological findings, inferences based on evidences, civilization funtionality. Initial overload event described that led to civilization's extinction, and the later mechanism for reproducing the SCPs effects.
D- Selected Early Testing Logs
Initial testing focused on baseline capabilities and limits of SCP-XXXX.
Test 1: Initial composition and energy analysis, unsuccessful crystal extraction
Test 2: Memory rewriting
Purpose: cognitive reconstruction and memory alteration/restoration, cognitohazard mitigation
Test 3: Amputated limb
Purpose: physical reconstruction/enhancement
Test 4: Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID)
Purpose: full phenotype/identity transformation for physiological alteration capabilities and cognitohazard extent, DID cure
E- Testing Phase II: Repeated Exposure
Test 1: 3 consecutive activations, has disastrous and fatal consequences
Purpose: limit-establishment, repeated correction, and threat potential evaluation
Test 2: Multiple Targets
Purpose: anamalous range testing.
Has incomplete/unintended alterations, crystalline destabilization in the SCP led to test haulting after 2 hours. Test terminated prematurely.
F- Cross-SCP Testing
Test 1: Subject exposed to SCP-150 (Ship of Thesius- Body replacing parasite)
Purpose: initial inter-anomalous property interaction, capability in eradicating invasive parasites/pathogens, restoration of lost biology.
Tests 2 & 3: Subject exposed to SCP-113 (Gender switcher)
Purpose: capability evaluation in reversing/restoring key biological processes, reversing cognitive social roles, repeated exposure integrating anamalous effects.
Test 2 successful with minor side-effects, original initial exposure to SCP-113 is forgotten via cognitohazard. Repeated (Test 3) on same subject, results harmful and similar to previous repeated exposure testing)
Test 4: Subject exposed to SCP-3660 (Zoo zipper) Purpose: capability analysis in addressing entire ontological threats and effects on non-human organisms. (Foundation wnats to see if it could potentially combat SCPs like SCP-217 and, SCP-610). SCP-3660-altered persons are the only partially successful animal trials.
Test 5: SCP 999 as Activator
Purpose: testing non-human sentient/anomalous activators, and for finding ways to mitigate negative effects of SCP-XXXX.
Most promising results so far due to the two SCPs combined anamalous properties, further trials with SCP-999 approved by ethics committee).
G- Omega Event
Describes an overload event paralleling the one that destroyed the original civilization. Occurred after a test attempted to target 8 individuals with prior corrections by the SCP at once. Caused numerous site-19 personnel casualties and a near-containment breach of multiple anomalies due to unattended containment positions. MTF Epsilon-11 deployed and restabilized operations.
Significance: Uncovers a present existential threat if totem is used excesively/abused. A shard of the original SCP-XXXX crystal broke off along the crack present from the first overload by the civilization. This fragment was designated SCP-XXXX-A for exploratory research.
H- SCP-XXXX-A Research Log
Crystalline composition and mechanism discoveries (Crystal has similar composition to quartz and not anamalous on its own, anamalous effects fueled by extraterrestrial energy it absorbs. Crystalline growth experiments show the anomaly is reproducibile).
Controllability revealed in Thermal testing: Crystal matrix melts after a high temperature threshold, energy dissipates harmlessly. This enables safeguard protocols and crystalline growth management.
I- Civillian Medical Test
SCP successfully cures an advanced medical condition with side-effects/cognitohazard at levels deemed acceptable by the ethics committee. Further civilian trials approved.
J- O5 Council Discussion Report Regarding Reclassification
Reports debates on Thaumeil benefits, ethical dillemas, and Manageability Criteria.
Conclusion: No reclassification yet. SCP-XXXX-A research remains promising.
Future proposal pending further ethical review and stability studies. SCP-XXXX-A research recently achieved successful crystal reproduction. Energy harnessing and channeling is underway w/ protype digital interface. SCP-XXXX will continue routine testing until main objective is met or project terminated
Final editors notes revealing Foundation corruption and ulterior motives previously hinted at
https://discord.com/channels/877710488673329162/1446620985305337906/1448831689382957076
That's the thing, the cognitohazard makes the change **self-consistent**, as if they've always been that way post transformation. And anyone exposed to the Target post-transformation is affected as well. So they never realize a change has even taken place. That's why the containment procedures will include redundant info recording both physically and digitally.
Your ideas give a much clearer picture of where you want to take this, and you’ve definitely built a strong foundation. I think you’ve got the atmosphere locked in now it’s mainly about making sure the details reinforce the horror rather than overexposing it. A few more suggestions that might help tighten things:
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With the void kills-the-brain scene, pacing is key.
That’s a great moment of shock horror, just make sure it’s not the first thing the team encounters. If you build tension with smaller distortions it’ll hit even harder when one member finally snaps from staring into the void.
The King’s signatures work best if they’re rare but unmistakable.
Growls, akiva spikes, flashes of those impossible sunrises keep them intermittent. Too frequent and the effect could dulled, but used sparingly they’ll stick with the reader in a very unsettling way.
The Foundation defenses you’re planning feel appropriate. You can heighten dread by showing their lack of confidence.
The more the Foundation over-prepares (godkillers, evacuation contingencies, universe-hopping plans) the more it highlights that they genuinely don’t know if those defenses would matter. It reinforces the asymmetry of cosmic horror really well.
For the MC’s bloodline, subtlety will strengthen the reveal later.
The strange sleep cycle, the nocturnal habits, the affinity for Daevic language. all of that works well. I’d just keep her symptoms grounded in “odd but explainable” territory in the first article so they feel like quirks or side effects rather than overt destiny. That way her arc in the later article has room to bloom and doesn’t overshadow the environment-focused horror of this one.
Overall I think you’ve got all the pieces for a strong SCP. I'd say just implement any other feedback you receive from other authors or critique/wiki staff. I'm still very new at this (:
Excerpts of note:
Consider implying presence, don’t stage an encounter.
Instead of the King “arriving,” have the environment behave as if something incomprehensibly large has noticed them. The team feels hunted, but there’s no face, no dialogue, no clear decision being made.
Maybe let the mercy be ambiguous.
They escape not because they’re spared, but because the phenomenon loses interest, or because the door destabilizes, or because the sanctuary was never meant to be observed for long. The MC’s bloodline doesn’t protect them, it merely explains why she was affected differently afterward.
I think you should defer recognition.
If the King “knows” her, that knowledge should never be explicit in this article. No cuts, no tests, no confirmation. At most, she experiences a moment of impossible familiarity or pain that the report can’t contextualize.
A- Research Statement
Objective: Determine SCP-XXXX viability as a tool to safely stabilize/reconstruct compromised human physiology and cognition for use against ontological, memetic, neurodegenerative, and/or medical threats by understanding its power source (the crystal in the totem).
Rationale: May be an acceptable cure for most known physical and mental conditions. Application may also provide mechanisms for safe amnestics, containment of cognitohazardous anomalies, and physical restoration of individuals exposed to disruptive anomalous forces.
Research goals:
• Assess limits and reproducibility of SCP-XXXX’s transformative effects.
• Evaluate necessary safety protocols
• Develop derivative crystals
• Explore ethical, operational, and logistical implications of repeated use on Foundation personnel, GoI, or civilian populations.
• Investigate potential integration with other SCPs for containment/remediation purposes.
B- Discovery Log
Narrative of civilian discovery, activation, and foundation intervention with included personal reactions and Foundation procedures.
The King’s signatures work best if they’re rare but unmistakable.
Growls, akiva spikes, flashes of those impossible sunrises keep them intermittent. Too frequent and the effect could dulled, but used sparingly they’ll stick with the reader in a very unsettling way.
The Foundation defenses you’re planning feel appropriate. You can heighten dread by showing their lack of confidence.
The more the Foundation over-prepares (godkillers, evacuation contingencies, universe-hopping plans) the more it highlights that they genuinely don’t know if those defenses would matter. It reinforces the asymmetry of cosmic horror really well.
Appears to be partially AI-assisted/edited by user from original text: https://discord.com/channels/877710488673329162/1446620985305337906/1449820681716895885
Yes based on intent. I actually have the mechanics more fleshed out than the story and they will be explained in the description. Basically, activator physically contacts totem/crystal, directs thoughts/intent (intentionally or unintentionaly) to a target, and the target is altered accordingly. Thr cognitohazard that aligns perceptions to the new form takes place according to familiarity to the Target (closer relationship = faster and more drastic alignment). The totem/crystal is limited in it's range, multi-targeting, and repeated activation. Attempts to stretch any of those result in destabilizations leading to Omega-type uncontrollable overload events
Compare with:
https://discord.com/channels/877710488673329162/1446620985305337906/1448835074014580850
You hit the nail. Im going to include that as a part of the strategic discussion by the O5. Im also experimenting with the idea of formatting the article in a way that shows the article has been tampered with to show the foundation in a positive light, when in reality they have ulterior motives for the use of this object
I could even include an additional mini log to implement your GoI idea and finish off the article where a researcher is terminated after seeing something they shouldn't have, a glimpse of a targetted plan to alter individuals and groups the foundation perceives as a threat
User has no forum posts and no edits. Permanently banned, PM sent. Kufat agreed that AI was present; Kufat, Aster, nico supporting ban.
ETA: user later lied about their AI usage, stating
Okay I see. I was using AI to help me organize my ideas but I came up with all the points myself. Like the entirety of my SCP idea I came up with myself. If this is unacceptable I apologize and it won't happen again. Do you know where I can go to appeal the ban?