New user Karl Schram, now Revanence does not match any existing user name (account age 23 hours as of this thread) has recently coldposted an article, and upon it being downvoted and not well-received, has reacted poorly to feedback:
(relevant posts in chronological order)
http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1363713/scp-2157#post-2374769
I was planning on explaining it more as time goes by, but clearly people don't want that, so I'll get to finishing it as soon as I can. Also, it was trying to prevent a breach in containment, if it were against the Foundation, wouldn't it just attack every non-SCP it finds and help them get out?
http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1363713/scp-2157#post-2374888
Alright, I've had enough complaining already, and I didn't want to expose the truth this early, but now you've all forced it upon me. SCP-2157 is the way it is because that's what it was CREATED to do. Make sense? It's a weapon made to keep the other SCPs in, it's that simple. And as for it being Thaumiel, you'll see why. Just give it time, and lets be honest, the only reason you're all against it is because of originality. It's not just another possessed book, logic defying cat, or inanimate object that kills you instantly. And I could of just said 'My SCP has telekinesis and is able to beat SCP-682' , but no, I didn't. I shouldn't have gotten all the hate I had within only five minutes of posting. Also, what's with all the references to Avengers? The thing's doing what it has to do, what it was made to do, keep the valuable researchers alive and keep the Euclids and Keters in. And most of the information here is meant to be a cover, because I couldn't of said that he follows the patrol patterns that the Foundation make him follow, could I now?
http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1363713/scp-2157#post-2374890
All of it IS a cover for the fact that is a WEAPON made by the FOUNDATION to do all this, and you can't really call this thing a Keter, now could you? Hell, you couldn't even call it a Euclid, for that matter! And also, I thought this through a lot longer then any of you have thought your comments through, everything I did here had a reason, and very good one. So you can all go back to worshiping your overpowered generic Godzilla wannabe, I've already heard enough.
http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1363713/scp-2157#post-2374901
I changed it to 'Safe', happy now? Now I have to deal with you for giving me crap about it being classified as 'Safe'. Hope you're all proud of yourselves.
http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1363713/scp-2157#post-2374906
Is there a problem with me treating my characters like my own children? And I didn't treat it like one in the article, that's the thing. It's fine for me to treat it like one outside of universe, so yeah, I've already heard enough today.
http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1363713/scp-2157#post-2374910
More character then a statue that practically teleports when you aren't looking and snaps necks. Why doesn't that get as much hate as what I'm getting? Oh, right, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE FIRST SERIES.
Keep an eye on.
Officially warned for gross rudeness in thread, with such examples as
I changed it to 'Safe', happy now? Now I have to deal with you for giving me crap about it being classified as 'Safe'. Hope you're all proud of yourselves.
Alright, I've had enough complaining already, and I didn't want to expose the truth this early, but now you've all forced it upon me. SCP-2157 is the way it is because that's what it was CREATED to do. Make sense? It's a weapon made to keep the other SCPs in, it's that simple. And as for it being Thaumiel, you'll see why. Just give it time, and lets be honest, the only reason you're all against it is because of originality. It's not just another possessed book, logic defying cat, or inanimate object that kills you instantly. And I could of just said 'My SCP has telekinesis and is able to beat SCP-682' , but no, I didn't. I shouldn't have gotten all the hate I had within only five minutes of posting. Also, what's with all the references to Avengers? The thing's doing what it has to do, what it was made to do, keep the valuable researchers alive and keep the Euclids and Keters in. And most of the information here is meant to be a cover, because I couldn't of said that he follows the patrol patterns that the Foundation make him follow, could I now?
And
And also, I thought this through a lot longer then any of you have thought your comments through, everything I did here had a reason, and very good one. So you can all go back to worshiping your overpowered generic Godzilla wannabe, I've already heard enough.
And probably more to come.
User did not take the deletion vote well.
http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1363713/scp-2157#post-2374921
… You're kidding right? YOU'RE JOKING? NOW I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE STAFF, TOO?! JUST BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY HERE IS FULL OF CHILDREN THAT DON'T THINK ALL THIS THROUGH? That's it, I'm about done. There ain't anything I can do at this point, I guess this community just doesn't like originality, or everyone's just too blind to see that it's still more original then half the generic and downright terrible SCPs on this site.
To which I staffposted:
Karl Schram,
This is an official order to cut out your vitriolic behaviour. Just because the community is not responding well to your SCP doesn't mean you have the right to react in the way you're doing so.
The mainlist is reserved for finished, ready-to-post SCP articles up for review by the community. The community is free to review them either by commenting or voting on the page. Once the voting reaches a certain negative value, a Deletion Vote begins. This is standard procedure.
If you feel as if members or staff are being unfair to you, please contact a member of the Site Criticism Team.
Thank you in advance for curbing this behaviour.
Do not respond to this message if you are not staff.
Mentioning here, but I'm moving for a revocation of membership. Dude needs to take a second and chill, and then reread the guides.
Seconding for revoke. This is neither productive nor mature behavior we're seeing here.
And again.
http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1363713/scp-2157#post-2374946
That's it, I'm done. I can't take it, I can't take all this. I am done with everything, the staff's response especially. I was calm at first, but the community was relentless. And I'm the one who's causing wrong here? What did you expect, for me to just let the community continue to downvote me? To let it get deleted? Have you all even read through everything? Let me ask you all something, if you posted something and immediately went through all this, wouldn't you be angry? I had valid reasons for all of this. So lets be honest here, is it really fair that I should have to deal with not only the unreasonable amount of hate I'm getting right now, and now have the staff on my ass? I've been through a lot today, and I have more then enough right to be angry right now. As for the hate, what, was I meant to just explain that it's an SCP that was created as a bio-weapon? Would that make you happy? No, then I'd have more hate because of it. Now I'm at my limit, so fucking delete it already, I'm not dealing with this anymore. And, even after justifying everything, I'm only getting more. So I give up. Go ahead and just delete it already, because clearly you're all not willing to give me the time to even update it and fix everything.
My response:
I did ask politely before, I think. Consider your acknowledgement of the warning noticed, and this post as a further escalation of your previous behaviour.
As I stated previously, the community is well within their right to critique your article negatively, and negative votes lead to deletion votes. This is within the rules, which you should be aware of if you read the necessary guides when applying to the site.
The article will be deleted once the appropriate time has passed. You are free to delete it yourself if you are so inclined.
Do not respond to this post if you are not staff.
Considering he disregarded my previous staff post, I'm now moving for a ban. 24 hours, as per standard.
Supporting a ban.
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!
I think a ban maybe too much too soon. Revocation is more than appropriate for this situation. Let re-evaluate those choices a little. I feel like a ban would be more for the second offense.
I think doubling, tripling, then quadrupling down is more than enough to consider it a "second offense" considering he blew through at least two modposts.
Eh, I may be a cupcake, but I lump this all up as a single offense.
vOv
Just to be clear, revocation is not and is never a disciplinary action, so the lenient option would be a warning (and a revocation to read the guides because it's obviously necessary, but not as a disciplinary action).
(I think you guys probably knew that, but this has come up so many times that I'm posting this for the record)
Before the thread got locked:
Not even a day has past, still getting hate. And a lot more then I should have to deal with. I replied calmly to a whole lot of it, too. A few of the posts were I didn't react calmly, can you really blame me for that? Those were when people started to be complete assholes, and when the staff only gave me crap for it. And I shouldn't have to explain the same things over and over again. I also shouldn't have to deal with this constantly, every time I reply I get another comment saying that it's shit. Honestly, people are accusing me of disrespecting, yet it seems more like members of the community and the staff are disrespecting me. And don't get me wrong, there are a lot of people who did give me feedback, and I respected it. Though at one point, I just couldn't take it. Now please, just get it over with and leave me be, I have a friend threatening to commit suicide and another in depression right now.
I'm not disciplinary, but I'd suggest more than a 24 hour ban. I highly doubt 24 hours is going to be enough for this guy to calm down and be rational if he wants to join the site again to write. Given that he also ignored at least two mod posts by kaktus, 24 hours probably doesn't seem like enough for this kind of situation?
Locked the thread. Many thanks to Waxx.
I don't think a 24 or a revocation will make a difference. Dude has ignored staff posts, obviously hasn't read the guides, and is way too unstable for this community right now. I'm moving instead for a weeklong.
I realize this is jumping procedure again, but I just staff posted about five times in the same thread, four of which were for the same dude. Enough is enough.
Claim to self-deleted SCP-2157:
Self-deleted SCP-2157. Too much hate.
Again showing off passive-aggressiveness and vitrol. Crayne clarified otherwise.
Snorlison revoked. Message sent as follows:
Karl Schram,
This is a message to inform you that your membership with the SCP Foundation Wiki has been revoked. You are free to reapply at any time, but please note that your membership may not be accepted due to a pending ban vote.
For additional information regarding this action, please see the following thread: http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-1364993/karl-schram
Best Regards,
djkaktus
Moderator, SCP Foundation Wiki
Disciplinary Committee Captain
I'm good with a week long.
Admin, SCP Wiki
