I'd like to get some input on what you guys think we need, think would be cool, etc. Either on the site, chat, or some other channel. Nothing's off the table for this thread, consider it a feasibility study.
Nothing's off the table for this thread
I want the site to make money come out of my CD drive
For real though, I think people might be able to make better use of the site if we could implement a next (and previous) SCP button.
I'm not sure of how to do a similar thing for tales.
Something that lets you search multiple tags at once would also be good - supposing someone wants to see all the memetic doges, they shouldn't have to compare the memetic and canine tags; that's very bad, so difficult, many tabs, much irritation.
EDIT: Basically, what I'm saying here is "moar wikiwalking pls"
Joining the site has been compared to pissing glass before, we should make reading it as urinary-tract-glass-free as possible.
http://www.scp-wiki.net/userscripts
This is how we've been able to best implement previous/next buttons on the site.
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!
I honestly don't see how we could make joining any easier without doing away with applications at all. As it is, the current system is basically a simple test to see if someone can follow incredibly basic instructions & reading comprehension.
Giving bearhugs to the unsuspecting since 1872.
Something that lets you search multiple tags at once would also be good - supposing someone wants to see all the memetic doges, they shouldn't have to compare the memetic and canine tags; that's very bad, so difficult, many tabs, much irritation.
You can already do this with Alexandra. Simply type in .tag (tag 1) (tag 2) (tag n) and you'll get a list of articles with all of those tags.
You can already do this with Alexandra.
And also this nifty thing Crayne made for the site! http://www.scp-wiki.net/tag-search
Either on the site
To clarify; do you mean the Wikidot site, or a potential future site outside of Wikidot?
The future site is largely in a holding pattern while SCP-RU develops Starforge. But throw em out there anyway.
Well, since nothing is off the table, here are the things I'd really really like:
- Neutral voting.
- Vote timestamps. Previous votes by the same user aren't deleted but are merely marked as inactive.
- When looking at a page's revision history, it shows how the rating changed between each revision, as a simple signed number. Pretty useless for minor typo revisions, but could be very cool for rewrites.
- Comment ratings.
- Comment threads in general should work pretty much exactly how they do at Reddit. Reddit does this one little thing flawlessly in my opinion. So, that means the ability to collapse subthreads and sort stuff however you like, with top comments first by default.
- Mods should be able to sticky comments. Authors should be able to sticky comments on their own articles.
- Sane authorship/ownership system that isn't a clusterfuck.
- Individual entries in open collaboration logs should have their own rating and their author tracked. Entries falling beneath a preset threshold (e.g. -10) are automatically hidden/deleted. Automation is important, because voting to delete every single bit wouldn't be feasible in my opinion.
- Better sandbox integration. Post drafts from sandbox to mainsite in a single click. Articles voted to deletion automatically go back to the author's sandbox.
- More and better stats for everything. This is the only one here that's actually possible, far as I know, and I'm slooooooooowly working on it. Slowly.
I think I had more, but can't remember off-hand. I'll edit to add if/when I remember them.
A less stupid staff structure, honestly.
It would be nice to be able to set custom permissions, save them as a "group", and then put users in that group. That way, certain users could have certain permissions based on their team, captains could have additional permissions, admins would be able to delegate permissions, etc.
Also, an integrated O5 would be great. Preferably one titled "O5", and not "05".
Also, an integrated O5 would be great. Preferably one titled "O5", and not "05".
Working on a custom domain name for you too.
"WELL FOUNDATION. YOU MADE IT SO EASY. SO VERY VERY EASY." - dimensionpotato
A way to indicate who the author of an article is clearly without needing to rely on Alexandra would be nice. Keeping the version history is needed but having something obvious somewhere to indicate the author(s) of the current major version of an article or rewrite would help majorly.
This is a pretty unpopular request, but it's something I see a basis for on the site, reddit, tumblr, IRC, something I experience myself a lot reading the site, and I think it's something kaktus brought up once on his Kaktuskast (and something I spoke about to him way back when): a very short kind of summary of the article somewhere (I wouldn't know where). I admit, I'm pretty slow to pick up on articles, and it seems like even the simple stuff is incredibly difficult to pick up on, whereas some difficult ones are apparently easy? It seems like the case, given how many times I've seen someone on the forums or somewhere else ask "I don't get it, can someone explain it?". I know there's the whole "GOD, WHY ARE YOU ON A READING SITE IF YOU DON'T WANNA READ" thing, but I think it's a viable idea, even if it shouldn't be high on a priority list.
Probably another pipedream; find a way to pimp out Wanderer's Library on the main site more. Just saying………
Better sandbox integration. Post drafts from sandbox to mainsite in a single click. Articles voted to deletion automatically go back to the author's sandbox.
One step further than this even; make it mandatory for the user to have a sandbox prior to posting something. When a user signs up, before posting, they link a sandbox (or sandboxes, if they have more than one like I do) and when they get ready to post, they can post from sandbox to mainsite after going through something like the _404 screen we have now prior to posting.
Also, an integrated O5 would be great. Preferably one titled "O5", and not "05".
I actually like the 05 thing of the site. It differentiates from the actual O5 council! Also, zeroes look nice.
I actually own O5Command.com, for some reason. So that's on the board.
Something like tldr.scp-wiki.net is feasible on its face, along the lines of http://www.explainxkcd.com/ is what comes to mind.
I wasn't even thinking of something like that, but it'd also be excellent!
Finding a way to remove/nullify votes from users who've been banned, deleted their accounts, gone inactive for a year plus, basically just aren't part of our community anymore. Gross vs actual vote value, where actual is measured by site activity. Not saying flat out reset, but like, just take into account anyone who left us (or comes back!) It would also help for those people who run in, read from 002-500 in numerical order, get bored, and leave after a month or two. It would also help curb some of the whole "this is highly rated, why shouldn't I emulate it???" articles that we could all point to in S1/2. It would also encourage more longevity in our users, I think.
Having a way to denote staff members in their posts, as well as their position and maybe domains, but that last one might encourage people to not listen to like, IO when it comes to crit or something idk.
having a way to actually lock individual convo chains in threads.
Getting the standard volley of like/favorite/share across social media buttons for different pages.
Locking pages so staff and authors are the only ones who can edit them and having a "contact the author/staff with suggested edits" button, with a staff slush pile that we can access to see what needs to be done.
Finding a way to incorporate the mainlist nicknames into the pages, even across the browser tab or something.
Finding a way to incorporate the mainlist nicknames into the pages, even across the browser tab or something.
Is that something people would like? I know I would like that, because I tend to open a bunch of skips at once, leave for a while, then come back and have to check each tab to find the one I want. But I was under the impression that the prevalent opinion was "Mainlist names are not canonical and thus shouldn't appear on the page itself."
Renaming every single skip to include their mainlist name as part of the title would take like an hour.
Renaming every single skip to include their mainlist name as part of the title would take like an hour.
I would rather not go that route on this iteration of the wiki. We wouldn't break any links if done properly but it's doable in the next generation of the wiki, i.e., a 'slug' field where the short name goes, and the list is updated automatically and the ability to put the slug in the title on page load, able to be enabled/disabled at the reader's discretion.
Personally, I feel, like next and back buttons, they aren't needed.
However, I am willing to put this up to a staff vote to see if the prevailing opinion is to include them.
Admin, SCP Wiki
I'd honestly just like to see the nickname in the metadata at the top of the screen, next to the page name, rather than next to the number itself on the page. The page itself is the documentation, which wouldn't have a nickname. But we're looking at it through the window of the screen, into the site, so having it somewhere on the border would be nice.
"WELL FOUNDATION. YOU MADE IT SO EASY. SO VERY VERY EASY." - dimensionpotato
Better support for collabs. Ability to credit multiple authors, etc.
Deletion is not forever: when something is "deleted", it's not really erased, but just renamed and hidden from the general populace. Actually deletion where data is gone and can't be recovered would be permitted to just a handful of people.
An administrative UI that can be browsed/sorted/searched.
Regular and reliable site backups.
More granular control on member permissions, including the ability to set up custom sets of permissions.
The ability to manually assign an author or set of authors to an article.
Oh yeah, and data-mining. Freely available stats on articles, votes, comments, failed attempts, and whatever else one can think of. Like, if someone wanted to see how many votes an article got in a given timeframe, one should be able to get that data without having to get a mod or admin.
Regular and reliable site backups.
FWIW, I'm doing those now, twice a month, mainsite, 05, and WL. They are of limited usability right now, because wikidot doesn't have any way to restore a site if something goes wrong, but if we ever get a site of our own, I have all1 the data backed up.
Oh yeah, and data-mining. Freely available stats on articles, votes, comments, failed attempts, and whatever else one can think of. Like, if someone wanted to see how many votes an article got in a given timeframe, one should be able to get that data without having to get a mod or admin.
This basically boils down to vote timestamps and deletions going back to the sandbox instead of disappearing into the void. Every possible stat I've thought of or have been asked about is either can be calculated right now, or is some derivative of those two. Ok, maybe page view-count as well, that'd be nice too.
Neutral voting is a big one. Also throwing what little weight I have behind Kaktus' staff suggestions and the ideas for better author support. Back and next buttons are not only unnecessary but would actually detract from the site imo.
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