Dr_Wize

Summary:

Sockpuppeting.

Dr_Wize

OccultistMave 26 Nov 2019 22:47

So after getting yelled at for roleplaying as dado about, a week ago or so. Today they did sockpuppeting and gave the age old and bullet proof defense of "My sibling did it"

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4:22 PM <BlueJones> That's how I interpret that at least
4:22 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> that's a different concept to modern takes on/current day activities of myths + fairytales
4:22 PM
<weryllium> paper faces on parade
4:22 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> they can certainly overlap
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4:22 PM <CalibriBold> AbsentmindedNihilist: Do you think "a picture is worth a thousand words" might actually be an interesting justification?
4:22 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> CalibriBold: the thing is that that's just a saying
4:23 PM
<Bennings> Like I remember seeing a convo on reddit in which someone said basically the only good urban fantasy they'd ever watched was My Little Pony
4:23 PM <CalibriBold> But not to them.
4:23 PM What if it was literal to them?
4:23 PM
<Dr_Wize> I love getting on midday and not knowing whats being talked about lol
4:23 PM So how is everyone
4:24 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> CalibriBold: but why would it be literally
4:24 PM
<weryllium> pretty good
4:24 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> why specifically a thousand
4:24 PM
<lurkd> Farts
4:24 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> or why would it lead to more hunting you than a word would
4:25 PM <CalibriBold> AbsentmindedNihilist: Maybe because one picture conveys what would ordinarily take many words?
4:25 PM
<Bennings> Hey dank meme I made
4:25 PM https://external-preview.redd.it/9q-nuXsbPvGtJaGELUP2koVqjOr5SkUqxZskpM9FCGE.jpg?width=500&auto=webp&s=df75d09a5202a03209c22ac26e479f2d8981a091
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4:25 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> CalibriBold: but that's not necessarily true
4:26 PM <dentix> well, one picture is worth a
4:26 PM how many words does wikidot count an image as again?
4:26 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> and how many words it would take to describe a picture differs from person to person
4:26 PM
<MalyceGraves> Bennings: MLP is urban fantasy?
4:26 PM
<Bennings> I unno that's what they said
4:26 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> of course, the doylist explantion for why you can't just use pictures is "2521 did it first and did it best"
4:26 PM
<Bennings> But it's a pretty damning statement of Urban Fantasy
4:27 PM <CalibriBold> Yeah.
4:27 PM Also, my goal is to literally use as few words as possible.
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4:27 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> Bennings: or a huge misinterpretation of the genre
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<weryllium> it feels more like a transparent "most words gimmick" than an actual skip, tbh
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4:27 PM <•edna> Dr_Wize: Enough of this.
4:27 PM ↔ dado popped in
4:27 PM
<weryllium> sorry, fewest words
4:27 PM
<Dr_Wize> i did nothing
4:28 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> the best thing about it is the "thirty-six hunt you now."
4:28 PM but uh
4:28 PM theory
4:28 PM <•edna> I can see your fucking hostmask.
4:28 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> on how to contain
4:28 PM
<Dr_Wize> i did nothing
4:28 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> Dr_Wize: your hostmasks are identical
4:28 PM
<Dr_Wize> i
4:28 PM did
4:28 PM nothing
4:28 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> do you have a good explnation for why that would be?
4:28 PM <CalibriBold> AbsentmindedNihilist: Yeah, the point was to tell the "story" with that last part.
4:29 PM
<Dr_Wize> i have siblings who also use the same stuff i do
4:29 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> Dr_Wize: bullshit.
4:29 PM
<Dr_Wize> et
4:29 PM bet
4:29 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> do you know how many times we get that excuse?
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Perma , however if they admit to lying to an op we'll bump it down to a month.
Hostmask is synIRC-5C03D9C5.hlrn.qwest.net
Edit: appeal in 17.

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4:57 PM
<Dr_Wize> I was going onto the rp server with the dado account
4:57 PM idk what sockpuppeting is
4:57 PM
<•Lily> Corvus:
4:57 PM <•edna> Lily: Procy banned.
4:58 PM
<•Corvus> Did I?
4:58 PM <•edna> Yeah
4:58 PM
<•Corvus> I don't think I did
4:58 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> i can take it
4:58 PM
<•Corvus> Ok niles
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4:58 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> Dr_Wize: so, you've given us 2 stories so far. siblings, and RP server.
4:58 PM honestly, neither of these holds water to me.
4:59 PM
<•Corvus> I will interject with him already having expressly denied being involved
4:59 PM And will now butt out
4:59 PM
<Dr_Wize> i do have siblings who use this, and i was going to the rp server
4:59 PM i did lie about the siblings using the dado thing
4:59 PM but i had no malicouis intention
4:59 PM and when i said i did nothingn, i menat i did nothing wrong
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5:00 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> you have lied twice to us.
5:01 PM
<•Corvus> If I may interject again
5:01 PM What rp server?
5:01 PM
<Dr_Wize> what was the second lie
5:01 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> Corvus: beat me to that question, lol
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5:01 PM
<Dr_Wize> origins ooc
5:02 PM
<•Corvus> Funny. You've never once been there.
5:03 PM And that isn't how roleplay works there
5:03 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> it's also a dead server.
5:03 PM
<•Corvus> So do you want to keep digging this hole?
5:03 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> all we want to know is the truth.
5:04 PM it can't possibly hurt you more than what you're telling us.
5:04 PM
<•Corvus> Otherwise niles I return the floor to you
5:04 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> thank you, friend corvy
5:04 PM
<•Corvus> <3
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5:05 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> Dr_Wize: if you don't respond, we'll take that as you not wanting to appeal and accepting the perma.
5:06 PM
<Dr_Wize> srry was afk
5:06 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> ah, no worries.
5:06 PM
<Dr_Wize> i was going to start as dado there
5:06 PM and i didnt mean any malicouis intent i was going to the rp server.
5:06 PM srry for lying about the siblins thing
5:07 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> Dr_Wize: why would you make a new account for that?
5:07 PM you know sockpuppeting is against the rules
5:07 PM and origins is an official server - it operates under the same rules of conduct as any other official channel.
5:07 PM
<Dr_Wize> i dont know what sockpuppeting is
5:07 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> which means no sockpuppeting.
5:07 PM creating two accounts and using both5:08 PM
<Dr_Wize> oh
5:08 PM i am sorry about that
5:08 PM i didnt know that was what that was
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5:08 PM
<Dr_Wize> and i made a new account because i like to get completely into the role of the character
5:09 PM
<•Corvus> Again, do you mind if I interject as both an Origins staffer and a longtime DM, Niles?
5:10 PM Because I've got Shit to Say
5:10 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> Corvus: not at all, be an expert witness
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<•Corvus> Okay, first, I'll speak as an Origins staffer.
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<•Corvus> I've been on Origins staff for essentially as long as it has been a game. Probably four plus years now.
5:11 PM I can count on one hand the number of people who have joined as an established character sight unseen "fully in the role"
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<•Corvus> Because first of all that's not how origins works which you'd know if you actually wanted to join
5:11 PM And second of all because that's not normal fucking human behavior
5:12 PM This is not a thing that happens, basically ever.
5:12 PM And once again I am done. For the moment at least.
5:12 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> Corvus: correct me if i'm wrong, but dado is also not really a character that fits with the setting or tone of origins, correct?
5:13 PM
<•Corvus> That is correct.
5:13 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> thank you.
5:13 PM all right.
5:14 PM
<•Corvus> While I can see a newbie not understanding that they would join the chat out of character to find out
5:14 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> i deem this story to be complete bullshit, based on the information provided above.
5:14 PM this means you have now blatantly lied to chatstaff multiple times.
5:15 PM there is nothing i can give other than a perma.
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5:15 PM <•AbsentmindedNihilist> you may appeal in a year.
5:16 PM now, we do not allow banned users to hang around in 17, so please leave or we will kick you.
5:16 PM but uh, respond to confirm that you see this.
5:17 PM
<Dr_Wize> once again, i am sorry as i did not understand the rules.I wasnt lying, because i found a dado hub and stuff, so i thought it would be in there.
5:17 PM but i understand your reasoning
5:17 PM ill leave srry for what i did
5:17 PM bye
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Given the bullshit story, we're keeping the perma.

Last edited on 26 Nov 2019 23:20 by OccultistMave Show more

Re: Dr_Wize

OccultistMave 01 Dec 2019 03:17

Received a wikidot pm from them.

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Please note, after looking through the rules and guidelines page, I never found anything that stated that sockpuppetting was against the rules. I also did not know that sockpuppetting was against the rules. I did admit to lying to an op, and I did tell the truth about wanting to go to origins to rp. It was my lack of knowledge in the entirety of the origins chat that caused the truth not to be believed. After review of the origins page, I see that dado would not count as a character. I also had not known what sockpuppetting was at the time as well. I am not sending this as an appeal or an excuse. I am only sending it as an explanation. I do apologize for what I did and I also apologize for my lack of knowledge on the subject. I did believe that I could rp as dado in origins, because I found a hub for him, and thought that it was for hubs and hub characters. I am sorry if I have crossed any boundaries in sending you this message, as I do not have knowledge of all the rules for the foundation yet. I did not mean any malicious intent behind the sockpuppetting, and as I'll state again, I did not know what sockpuppetting was or that it was against the rules. I also would like to once again apologize for lying about my sibling doing the sockpuppetting, because I was scared at the time and was not thinking straight. Once again, I am sorry for those rules I broke, but me going to roleplay as dado in origins is the truth.

Re: Dr_Wize

Zyn 01 Dec 2019 08:33

Please note, after looking through the rules and guidelines page, I never found anything that stated that sockpuppetting was against the rules. I also did not know that sockpuppetting was against the rules.

I did not mean any malicious intent behind the sockpuppetting, and as I'll state again, I did not know what sockpuppetting was or that it was against the rules.

Per the Site Rules: http://www.scp-wiki.net/site-rules under the "These actions can result in an immediate permanent ban:" section, "Sockpuppetry." is listed.

We can always make it more obvious, but this is really a commonsense kind of thing, right? Someone who can act the age limit shouldn't need to be told that they shouldn't try to pretend to be someone else using a different account/name.