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Idiocy, trolling, incoherence. Setting as perma in Alex, but I guess it could be revoked if they appeal coherently.
23:26 Guest46836 guest46836 is now afk
23:26 Wogglebug They look like snakes to me :<
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23:27 Live2Die Guest46836: you can use /away to let people know you're away
23:27 Guest46836 guest46836 /does is no longer afk
23:27 Guest46836 o thank you
23:27 Wogglebug https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e0/a8/b8/e0a8b804b7f24eac0f77e0468c149ce2.jpg
23:27 DrMann Taxonomists are still trying to decide just how they want to tackle the reptile problem.
23:28 MrAnakinSpecter Is that a skink?
23:28 Wogglebug Supposedly.
23:28 Voct Wogglebug - they look very much like snakes, yes. But they're not, because they've got eyelids, and earholes, and some species have vestigial legs
23:28 MouseMats haha look at its little arms
23:28 MrAnakinSpecter interesting creatures
23:28 MouseMats its like 'you what mate? you fuckin want some?'
23:28 DrMann Snakes are actually just a kind of lizard; they're in the same group as Iguanians and anguimorphs.
23:29 DrMann Meanwhile, you can't have a common ancestor for lizards and crocodiles that doesn't also include birds.
23:30 Guest46836 is twistedGears really afk now
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23:31 DrMann The choice seems to be either to fold birds under the reptile name, or else split reptiles up into different groups, consisting of, possibly, lizards (including snakes) and tuataras, turtles, and Archosaurs (birds and crocodilians).
23:31 Voct taxonomy is all arbitrary anyway
23:32 DrMann It /has/ been.
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23:32 DrMann This would make it /less so/.
23:32 - Live2Away is away (doing shit)
23:32 Guest46836 check this video out it is cool [TITLE: THE END | SCP Containment Breach v0.9 #41 VIEWS: 674826 FAVES: 0 RATING: 4 RATERS: 16579 UPLOADED: Markiplier ] [TITLE: THE END | SCP Containment Breach v0.9 #41 VIEWS: 674826 FAVES: 0 RATING: 4 RATERS: 16579 UPLOADED: Markiplier ]
23:32 Alexandra Guest46836: THE END | SCP Containment Breach v0.9 #41 - length 16m 46s - rated 4.98/5.0 (16579) - 674 826 views - markipliergame on 2014.01.26
23:32 Voct DrMann - it's a nomenclature issue. Nomenclature is arbitrary and externally imposed.
23:32 DrMann The goal now is monophyletic groups.
23:32 - Live2Away is back
23:32 Live2Away Okay, that video is of Containment Breach, and I hate Containment Breach
23:32 Live2Away why should I watch that >:|
23:33 Voct DrMann - how about "organism" ?
23:33 MrAnakinSpecter Who's Markiplier?
23:33 Guest46836 o srry
23:33 Voct "Organism" is a monophyletic group.
23:33 Guest46836 ?away
23:33 DrMann The issue here is that we're trying to model the nomenclature to phylogeny, which isn't arbitrary.
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23:33 Voct Guest46836 - you have to use /
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23:33 DrMann Yes, voct. It is. And it has a non-arbitrary basis for being monophyletic.
23:34 Voct hey
23:34 Voct my name is LUCA
23:34 DrMann Saying that nomenclature is purely arbitrary is like saying it doesn't matter which chemicals are called oxides.
23:34 Voct I live on the second floor
23:34 MrAnakinSpecter it really isn't arbitrary to biologists, i'm sure
23:34 DrMann But for nomenclature to be useful, it needs to be referent to something in the real world.
23:34 Voct MrAnakinSpecter - do you know about ring species?
23:35 MrAnakinSpecter no idea. I'm more of a historian
23:35 Voct .g "ring species"
23:35 Alexandra Voct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_species — Ring species - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: "In biology, a ring species is a connected series of neighbouring populations, each of which can interbreed with closely sited related populations, but for which …"
23:35 Guest46836 im no longer away
23:35 Voct A can interbreed with B, which can interbreed with C, which can interbreed with D, which can interbreed with E… which CANNOT interbreed withA
23:36 Guest46836 i watched this video https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DiOztnsBPrAA%26index%3D1%26list%3DPL3tRBEVW0hiDL09lO0xjKEix84OY27xet&redir_token=GocHxF_opuFGqvKzOUagh2GB_5t8MTQyNTMzOTMwMkAxNDI1MjUyOTAy
23:36 Voct it's interesting to conceive of ring species in terms of time rather than space
23:36 Voct Guest46836 - please don't paste the URLs of direct Google hits
23:36 Voct because they're ungodly huge
23:37 GottaGoFeast .seen CryogenChaos
23:37 Alexandra GottaGoFeast: cryogenchaos was last seen 4 months, 3 weeks ago saying: Someone described the relationship between Fuan no Tane and Junji Ito as thus: Junji Ito's works involve characters entering strange situations; Fuan no Tane involve strange situations dropping in on characters
23:37 Wogglebug What's the name for a cylinder with the middle removed?
23:37 Guest46836 i didnt know
23:37 Voct torus?
23:37 Voct toroid?
23:37 MrAnakinSpecter Two more cylinders
23:37 Wogglebug .def torus
23:37 Alexandra Wogglebug: torus: noun: 1. A topological space which is a product of two circles. 2. The standard representation of such a space in 3-dimensional Euclidean space: a shape consisting of a ring with a circular cross-section: the shape of an inner tube or hollow doughnut.
23:38 Wogglebug Maybe
23:38 Voct elongated toroid
23:38 Voct toroidal cylinder
23:38 Voct cylindrical torus
23:38 DrMann Hollow cylinder.
23:38 Voct DrMann - that doesn't imply that there's a hole *through* it
23:38 MrAnakinSpecter it is interesting and I see how it conflicts somewhat with standard taxonomy but I still think there are more benefit than harm in categorization
23:39 DrMann Depends. When used as a model in geometry, it usually does (for the purpose of calculating its volume).
23:39 Guest46836 interesting ring species
23:40 MrAnakinSpecter Guest: your link didn't work. what was the video about?
23:40 Guest46836 here [TITLE: MY HEART EXPLODES!! | SCP Containment Breach #47 VIEWS: 1112510 FAVES: 0 RATING: 4 RATERS: 24127 UPLOADED: Markiplier ] [TITLE: MY HEART EXPLODES!! | SCP Containment Breach #47 VIEWS: 1112510 FAVES: 0 RATING: 4 RATERS: 24127 UPLOADED: Markiplier ]
23:40 Alexandra Guest46836: MY HEART EXPLODES!! | SCP Containment Breach #47 - length 13m 5s - rated 4.96/5.0 (24127) - 1 112 510 views - markipliergame on 2014.12.04
23:41 Light Given the nature of DNA differing in small amounts between populations and in larger amounts between species, ring species seem to be about what we'd expect to find
23:41 Light They are, in fact, super cool
23:41 MrAnakinSpecter oh it's a let's play, nevermind
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23:42 Voct Super Cool Populations
23:42 MrAnakinSpecter is markiplier someone popular? i've never heard of him before now
23:42 MrAnakinSpecter I've*
23:42 Voct .g markiplier
23:42 Alexandra Voct: https://www.youtube.com/user/markiplierGAME — Markiplier - YouTube: "Welcome to Markiplier! Here you'll find some hilarious gaming videos, original comedy sketches, animated parodies, and other various bits of entertainment! I…"
23:42 Light Fairly famous youtuber, I believe
23:42 Voct .w markiplier
23:42 Alexandra Voct: Mark Edward Fischbach (born June 28, 1989), known by his YouTube handle Markiplier, is an American actor, voice actor, comedian, internet personality, video game commentator and philanthropist. — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markiplier
23:42 Vince https://31.media.tumblr.com/cfecca89d984e194bed9edc1746f6a21/tumblr_mvlei9SblD1qck2mdo1_400.gif
23:43 MrAnakinSpecter what's with the jesus truck. I don't get it
23:43 BlackWingACU https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s526x395/1378580_10153264422260431_1207465779_n.jpg?oh=32ee124c0140f0f3aa26670fc2dcb5e6&oe=55856D7F&__gda__=1434411840_756f04011d247ab76f5c1400aef4865e
23:43 BlackWingACU MrAnakinSpecter: Only Jesus would stop that thing from crashing into the driver
23:43 MrAnakinSpecter maybe I just don't know what's funny ;__;
23:43 DrMann Oh, hey, they had that soda at Bevmo today.
23:44 DrMann They also had chocolate bacon soda.
23:44 BlackWingACU Notice how at the moment that Jesus showed up, the trunk stopped sliding and the one with the camera was able to back up
23:44 BlackWingACU No one died
23:44 Metaphysician What was I doing…
23:44 BlackWingACU pie
23:44 MrAnakinSpecter DrMann: that sounds disgusting
23:44 Light Chocolate bacon soda- oh my
23:44 Guest46836 markiplier has almost as much subscribers as PewDiePie
23:44 DrMann Oh, agreed.
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23:44 DrMann I wouldn't drink it myself. I was just amused that it existed.
23:45 MrAnakinSpecter Guest46836: that's cool, I guess. good for him as long as he's happy
23:46 BlackWingACU But does Pewdiepie have cosplayers?
23:46 MrAnakinSpecter DrMann: I'm kind of startled that such a product could be profitable for so long. I remember "lol bacon is random" being a thing, like, three years ago.
23:46 Guest46836 LOL that truck is stupid Vince :D
23:46 Metaphysician yawns.
23:46 DrMann Oh, this company makes all kinds of weird sodas.
23:46 DrMann Like apple pie, or rhubarb.
23:46 Guest46836 laughs
23:47 MrAnakinSpecter Oh i would drink apple pie. That makes sense
23:47 DrMann They make money by people being curious enough to try it.
23:47 DrMann Oh, and Buffalo Wing soda. Or Peanut Butter and Jelly Soda.
23:47 Metaphysician Ew. Ew.
23:47 DrMann Lester's Fixins are the ones that are completely weird. Melba's Fixin's are the ones based on, like, pie.
23:47 MrAnakinSpecter good on them. it's a clever idea. But I imagine they can't have too many repeat customers
23:47 MrAnakinSpecter Good* It's*
23:47 DrMann Pie, and sweet tea.
23:47 DrMann http://www.rocketfizz.com/lesters/
23:47 Guest46836 ///
23:48 Vince final fantasy fans, is it me or does this IRL knife have Materia junction slots?
23:48 Vince https://41.media.tumblr.com/16d0fffae30e4c0cdd568916e496845b/tumblr_miupieSdt61rrjmgoo1_1280.jpg
23:48 Guest46836 http://www.rocketfizz.com/lesters/
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23:48 MrAnakinSpecter what's with all the slashes, guest?
23:48 BlackWingACU Vince: Way too many and too small
23:49 JamJam66 .lc
23:49 Metaphysician Hmm, how many words in a chapter, usually?
23:49 Alexandra JamJam66: Lucid Daydreaming(Rating:6) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/lucid-daydreaming - SCP-2118(Rating:5) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2118 - It's Just A Dream(Rating:13) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/it-s-just-a-dream
23:49 Vince BlackWingACU: clearly it's yuffie's super-class weapon
23:49 MrAnakinSpecter DrMann: that rnach dressing flavor is going to make me sick
23:49 MrAnakinSpecter ranch*
23:49 BlackWingACU Yuffie has throwing stars. Not daggers.
23:49 BlackWingACU Daggers would be Zidane
23:49 Fae so many dreams
23:49 Metaphysician Trying to divide things up as best I can.
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23:50 Guest46836 check this out about scp https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/central/
23:50 MrAnakinSpecter Metaphysician: I think most people really don't care as long as you don't write an entire novella and have plenty of paragraphs
23:50 MrAnakinSpecter ??? you linked to firefox, guest
23:51 Light Metaphysician - Eh, couple of pages? It's very flexible
23:51 DrMann Dost we have a bot?
23:51 Tombstone Guest46836: you're acting 9. Continue to act 9 and you will be removed from the room. Calm down, don't lie about links, stop being so damn hyper. This is an official warning.
23:51 DrMann I think we dost!
23:51 Metaphysician I had this setup differently when I wrote most of this initially.
23:51 Guest46836 http://justgottrolled.com/
23:51 Light I would think that in general, the longer your thing, the longer your chapters can be
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23:52 Metaphysician I can get a bit obsessive with "balance"; not quite OCD but… close, enough that the impulse is hard to fight.
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23:52 Metaphysician I tried to have chapters often very close in length and so on.
23:52 Metaphysician Breaking away from that.
23:52 + Tombstone has given op to DrMann
23:52 Guest46836 trolololololololololololo
23:52 Metaphysician As well as how ordered POV characters were.
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23:53 Tombstone Guest46836: Ok, a 24 hour ban is without question now, but you can save yourself from perma by responding coherently before I ban you.
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23:53 - DrMann has banned *!*@synIRC-D08E417.nc.res.rr.com
23:53 Tombstone Guest46836: Anything to say in your defense?
23:53 Metaphysician I had recently been looking through some Song of Ice and Fire, studying how he does it. Originally, I was moving between characters every four chapters, recycling through the same 3 characters.
23:53 MrAnakinSpecter If you want to make things even you can probs reorganize the chapters you've already got by moving a sentence or two up or down
23:53 Live2Die …
23:53 Live2Die since when did Mann have op?
23:53 Wogglebug 5evr
23:53 * Guest46836 was kicked by Tombstone (you can appeal in #site17)
