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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>GreenWolf</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1814684</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>It'd be relatively simple to put together a bot (or even just a regex string, no need for something as large as a bot for this) that can go through the list of usernames and return the (smaller) list of all usernames containing SCP/Admin/O5 etc&#8230; Flagging and revocation would still have to be done manually, but this seems like a pretty easy way to reduce the amount of work required.</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 15:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>A Random Day</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1841781</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Enforcement might not be perfect, but that doesn't mean we should just let things slip through the cracks. I strongly support Smascher's argument.</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 10:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>thedeadlymoose</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>732274</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <blockquote> <p>although I can't see how anyone's going to find these usernames if they aren't voting or posting, etc.</p> </blockquote> <p>Honestly, they could vote on hundreds of SCPs before anyone noticed their name, votes aren't logged at all. And since self-upvoting is now acceptable <em>and</em> counts towards vote totals, staff don't have a reason to as thoroughly skim through (or often, even check) the actual vote makeup.</p> <p>That aside, the possibility is that someone signs up with an official-sounding name and sends PMs to people directly, never commenting on the site and therefore never being noticed. And/or newer people might message them directly because sufficiently savvy newer people might indeed comb through their votes and contact &quot;Site Admin SuperFriend&quot; directly. Both these things have actually happened repeatedly (if rarely) over the years <em>without</em> official-sounding names, so it's not unrealistic to suggest.</p> <p>That said, it still does seem like a long shot, so I dunno.</p> <p>Also, everyone keep in mind that whatever we decide, enforcement will never be perfect. Admins (can) get a running tally of everyone who joins the site (I do), and we <em>could</em> go through to regularly identify iffy names, but that's never going to be consistent.</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 02:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Decibelles</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>2005044</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I am leaning towards agreeing with this post, although I can't see how anyone's going to find these usernames if they aren't voting or posting, etc.</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 02:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Zyn</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1404533</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Noting that a collective thread has been started for the username issues here: <a href="http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-1823153/username-log">http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-1823153/username-log</a></p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 01:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Adam Smascher</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>587467</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I think it's a big mistake to allow names like this to be tacitly permitted. As someone else indicated, there's the possibility people could see they exist and think it's okay; I'm more concerned with the possibility someone ostensibly inactive with such a name could actually be private messaging people or something along those lines. In the event of someone pretending authority, or simply letting it be assumed, we're not going to know until and unless someone comes to us. Then, we have the pleasure of untangling the extent of it and trying to correct.</p> <p>&quot;What do you mean, my project is a license violation/not condoned or endorsed by staff? I asked an admin, they said it was totally okay!&quot;</p> <p>&quot;I was told I had to immediately delete my article or I'd be banned.&quot;<sup class="footnoteref"><a id="footnoteref-908454-1" href="javascript:;" class="footnoteref" >1</a></sup></p> <p>I think we have to be proactive here. There's some pretty damaging ways it could blow up in our faces, and it's just not worth chancing it.</p> <div class="footnotes-footer"> <div class="title">Footnotes</div> <div class="footnote-footer" id="footnote-908454-1"><a href="javascript:;" >1</a>. Not actual quotes, so nobody has a heart attack. Just some real fun stuff we might have to deal with.</div> </div> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2016 05:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Sounds good to me!</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2016 00:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>thedeadlymoose</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>732274</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <blockquote> <p>Unless someone becomes active on the site, we don't actively 'seek and destroy' them when they have a username we'd have previously not allowed. If we notice them voting, posting, etc., then I think we should feel free, but a lot of people join and never actually return.</p> </blockquote> <p>Sure. Whatever staff think is best, and so far I don't see many objections.</p> <p>I also don't object to a courtesy form letter, if others agree with Zyn on that too. I think every username like this is a problem waiting to happen, but I also think we over-moderate newbies to an excessive degree, so I'm willing to back off this on principle.</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I don't think it'll be necessary. If they're not posting, someone would have to go out of their way to look at those usernames.</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2016 15:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Zyn</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1404533</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>How about sending a courtesy form letter PM so we don't get people breaking the rules because &quot;I saw that guy do it and I thought it was okay!!!&quot;</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2016 10:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>TroyL</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>451071</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I noticed them too, but I held off. As a way to keep from making a lot of random revokes for us to do and a lot of busywork for staff to do, I propose the following addendum to the rule:</p> <p>Unless someone becomes active on the site, we don't actively 'seek and destroy' them when they have a username we'd have previously not allowed. If we notice them voting, posting, etc., then I think we should feel free, but a lot of people join and never actually return.</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2016 07:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>thedeadlymoose</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>732274</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Noticed this user joined the site:</p> <p><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/site-admin-zinos">Site Admin Zinos</a></p> <p>Obviously that's an unacceptable name. They haven't posted yet, so it's not as easy to revoke them, and I'm low on time right now. Can someone send them a PM asking them to change their name?</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Addition: If the username is unambiguously in error, and no admin is handy, there's no reason a moderator can't send a different PM to ask them to change pre-revoke &#8212; but make sure the error in the name is totally unambiguous.</p> <p>(Edited this into the OP with more info, but edits are easily missed, so posting separately.)</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2016 07:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Suggestions on phrasing? I didn't want to encourage anyone to deliberately go for that because trololol. (Not that that's a good reason to keep something out of the rules; the main reason I didn't add it up-front is that I felt it should be obvious, but we can write it down specifically if need be.)</p> <p>EDIT: Or feel free to edit it directly, of course, since you're just as much of an admin as I am~</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2016 05:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>DrEverettMann</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>323946</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Maybe point out that there are also some decency standards too, so we don't end up with someone trying to join as sniffyourpanties or something similarly creeptastic.</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2016 01:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Zyn</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1404533</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Started today. I'll keep a running tally of the ones that I notice.</p> <p>08/23 - Admin Sam (profile <a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/admin-sam">here</a>). Troy revoked, I sent PM.</p> <p>ETA: changed their username to iBelieve. I received a PM about it.</p> <blockquote> <p>As upsetting receiving this is, I understand the error I've made. Thank you for bringing this up.</p> </blockquote> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Seems straightforward.</p> 
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				<title>Re: REGARDING USERNAMES</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2016 04:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Sounds good!</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2016 06:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>PLEASE NOTE:</p> <p>With the new join system, we can no longer deny people's apps who use names like &quot;SCP-LOL&quot;, etc.</p> <p>Currently, I think we'll need to deal with inappropriate usernames by revocation, and banning if they join again without changing their username.</p> <p><strong>If you see a user with an inappropriate user name, please flag them as abusive BEFORE reporting them. Remember you must flag them from a page on the SCP wiki, not their wikidot profile.</strong></p> <p>As before, I don't think we need to consider this a disciplinary issue. If they change their name appropriately, we let them back in, no harm, no foul, even if we had them banned. Does not count as a warning or a step in the disciplinary process or anything like that. A ban would just be to force them to deal with the issue.</p> <p>Currently, the Join Page reads as follows RE: usernames:</p> <hr /> <p><strong>Usernames:</strong></p> <ul> <li>No usernames with &quot;SCP&quot; or &quot;O5&quot; or &quot;Class D&quot; or an SCP number. No usernames with a character or SCP that isn't yours. If you have a username like this, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">your account may be removed</span> until you change it. <ul> <li>If you need to change your username: Go <a href="http://www.wikidot.com/account/settings">here</a> and click on Edit next to your username. You can only change your username twice per account, so be careful.</li> </ul> </li> </ul> <hr /> <p>Suggested Form Letters:</p> <p>First Incident (Revoke):</p> <blockquote> <p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Your&#32;SCP&#32;Foundation&#32;account&#32;was&#32;revoked&#32;because&#32;of:&#32;Having&#32;an&#32;inappropriate&#32;user&#32;name,&#32;&quot;[NAME]&quot;.&#32;This&#32;name&#32;is&#32;not&#32;allowed&#32;because&#32;[REASON].&#32;Please&#32;correct&#32;this&#32;mistake&#32;and&#32;rejoin.&#32;If&#32;you&#32;have&#32;any&#32;questions,&#32;please&#32;feel&#32;free&#32;to&#32;respond&#32;to&#32;this&#32;message,&#32;or&#32;ask&#32;another&#32;staff&#32;member&#32;in&#32;our&#32;[http://05command.wikidot.com/chat&#32;help&#32;chat&#32;(#site17)].</span></p> </blockquote> <p>Second Incident (Temporary Ban):</p> <blockquote> <p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Your&#32;SCP&#32;Foundation&#32;account&#32;was&#32;temporarily&#32;banned&#32;because&#32;of:&#32;Having&#32;an&#32;inappropriate&#32;user&#32;name,&#32;&quot;[NAME]&quot;.&#32;This&#32;name&#32;is&#32;not&#32;allowed&#32;because&#32;[REASON].&#32;If&#32;you&#32;correct&#32;this&#32;mistake,&#32;your&#32;account&#32;will&#32;be&#32;unbanned.&#32;After&#32;you've&#32;changed&#32;your&#32;name,&#32;please&#32;contact&#32;staff&#32;to&#32;ask&#32;them&#32;to&#32;unban&#32;your&#32;account.&#32;You&#32;may&#32;do&#32;so&#32;by&#32;responding&#32;to&#32;this&#32;message,&#32;or&#32;by&#32;joining&#32;our&#32;[http://05command.wikidot.com/chat&#32;help&#32;chat&#32;(#site17)].</span></p> </blockquote> <p>EDIT: Made it so you can copy the form letters directly. Feel free to suggest tweaks.</p> <p>If this becomes a major issue, we can start temp-banning up-front, and keep the rest of the process the same.</p> <hr /> <p>EDIT x2: If the username is unambiguously in error, and no admin is handy, there's no reason a moderator can't send a different PM to ask them to change. Suggested form letter for that:</p> <blockquote> <p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Your&#32;SCP&#32;Foundation&#32;account&#32;has&#32;an&#32;inappropriate&#32;user&#32;name,&#32;&quot;[NAME]&quot;.&#32;This&#32;name&#32;is&#32;not&#32;allowed&#32;because&#32;[REASON].&#32;Please&#32;change&#32;this&#32;name,&#32;or&#32;your&#32;account&#32;may&#32;be&#32;revoked.</span></p> <p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">If&#32;you&#32;have&#32;any&#32;questions,&#32;please&#32;feel&#32;free&#32;to&#32;respond&#32;to&#32;this&#32;message,&#32;or&#32;ask&#32;another&#32;staff&#32;member&#32;in&#32;our&#32;[http://05command.wikidot.com/chat&#32;help&#32;chat&#32;(#site17)].</span></p> </blockquote> <p>Be careful with this, though &#8212; judging ambiguously inappropriate usernames <em>should</em> have more outside input than obvious stuff like &quot;D-1010101&quot; and &quot;TheRealKondraki&quot;. (I know I've misjudged a couple on my own, which is why I always ask others.)</p> 
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