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		<title>[DISCUSSION] Changes to Anonymization of Metadata</title>
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] Changes to Anonymization of Metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2024 13:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Ethagon</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>5844683</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I'm against works being permanently anonymized or de-anonymized. I think a waiting period is fine in theory.</p> <p>Though I'm also a bit curious if that is an actual issue right now.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] Changes to Anonymization of Metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2024 01:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Rounderhouse</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>4187885</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>This does raise the minor problem of how to differentiate articles that were anonymized prior to this policy and are thus revocable, and ones that are post-this-policy and are irrevocable. I assume they would both be credited to Anonymous, unless we want to create a different accreditation for them in metadata (credit ones done after this policy to NewAnonymous, just as an example).</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] Changes to Anonymization of Metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 02:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>aismallard</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>4598089</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I think us discovering authorship for early articles is a different matter. We would have already attributed them but didn't know who they were, and when they did appear we can update it. This is for people who intentionally disclaim attribution when we already know who they are.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] Changes to Anonymization of Metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 01:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Prismal</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>8779219</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>that's a very good point. If we go through with the irrevocability clause then I'll be sure to add that.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] Changes to Anonymization of Metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Rounderhouse</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>4187885</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I don't think a waiting period would actually do all that much to solve the presented problem but I <em>am</em> in favor of irrevocability and it would be unfair to make it irrevocable without some kind of grace period so I'm fine with the week and the permanence. Also agreeing with Kufat's point on failing-safe.</p> <p>But I want to note that these are mostly my philosophical thoughts on anonymization &#8212; is this occurring frequently enough to be an actual issue on the site?</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] Changes to Anonymization of Metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Kufat</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>2336666</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>A waiting period combined with irrevocability sounds like a good idea. I would suggest requiring a second message confirming the anonymization request no less than a week later rather than going ahead unless a retraction is received. That way, in the event a user forgets to follow up, the result will be no action rather than an irrevocable action. (i.e. so it fails safe.)</p> <p>Edit: Since this is a change to the anonymization procedure, I would expect that it wouldn't apply retroactively. (In other words, I think we'd have to continue re-attribution for articles anonymized before this change.)</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] Changes to Anonymization of Metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>ParallelPotatoes</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>2945104</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Personally I don’t really see downsides to the week long waiting period. This is certain to reduce the amount of work for staff, as they would no longer need to manually edit the metadata if the request is retracted within the week.</p> <p>Im not a fan of making the entire process one way. I can see scenarios where someone puts actual thought into anonymity, and then months or years down the line they change their mind. Yes, it would mean less work for staff since reversing it is one less job to do, but if someone put real and actual thought into anonymizing their work then it’s likely that they are putting thought into reversing that as well. Id personally be more comfortable backing waiting periods for reversing the anonymization process rather than banning it outright. For example, maybe it must be a period of 3 months after a work is anonymized for requests to reattribute it to be considered.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] Changes to Anonymization of Metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Mooagain </wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>5975504</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>First solution of a waiting period seems the most appropriate. A hard refusal to give credit to those who no longer wish to be anonymous is a bit too far, people can have second thoughts years later. Plus we've still got all those pages from before wikidot that occasionally find an author to credit.</p> 
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				<title>[DISCUSSION] Changes to Anonymization of Metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Prismal</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>8779219</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>O4 mirror: <a href="https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-16871340/discussion-changes-to-anonymization-of-metadata">https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-16871340/discussion-changes-to-anonymization-of-metadata</a></p> <p>Hello everybody</p> <p>Recently admins discussed potential use and misuse of the anonymization and de-anonymization of metadata.</p> <p>One concern raised is that currently a user could flipflop between requesting anonymization and re-attributing of their articles which could become an excessive ask for staff, but currently we don't have any real stance to tell an author no.</p> <p>Sometimes anonymization is done with a significant amount of forethought behind it and left as is, and that's more than okay. There have however been instances where this was decided in the heat of the moment, and shortly thereafter regretted at which point staff was asked to fix matters.</p> <p>I'm putting this up to discuss some potential solutions to this issue.</p> <p>One that we would like to implement is a mandatory, unskippable waiting period of a week between requesting the anonymization of metadata, and the metadata actually being anonymized.</p> <p>(This applies to works which were previously attributed to their respective authors, rather than works submitted anonymously through the Curation Team)</p> <p>The user could then retract their request at any time during this week long period.</p> <p>Another solution that we would like to implement is to no longer allow users to have their anonymous works re-attributed.</p> <p>This would apply for ALL works attributed as anonymous.</p> <p>(Users can of course publically reveal they wrote the work, but the metadata will not be changed)</p> <p>With both of these added stipulations, we expect that anonymization will only occur when a user is absolutely certain they wish to do so, which would be better for users, and better for staff.</p> <p>Leaving this discussion open for a week.</p> <p><iframe src="https://scpwiki.github.io/timer/timer.html?lang=en&amp;time=2024-07-03T00%3A09%3A33.209Z" align="" frameborder="" height="" scrolling="" width="" class="" style="width: 750px; height: 200px; border: 0; text-align: center;"></iframe></p> 
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