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		<title>[DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2023 18:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>In agreement of what Flops said here</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2023 11:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Alright I think I have a usable definition here:</p> <p>The use of generative machine learning models to generate user facing content is banned.<br /> Furthermore, the usage of tools whose primary use is generative machine learning is also banned for user facing content.</p> <p>Generative: The model produces more meaningful information than was input into the model<br /> Machine learning: An algorithmic system designed to replicate a given set of training data<br /> User-facing content: All content directly viewable to the user (EG, text, images, audio video ect, excluding CSS, Javascript and other parts that communicate to the browser and not the user)</p> <p>Under this standard:<br /> things banned<br /> GPT, midjourny<br /> Auto captioning (we would need a policy for an exception here)<br /> AI voice generation</p> <p>Things not banned<br /> Grammery, DeepL: Machine learning, not generative<br /> The 001 image generation software: Generitive, not machine learning<br /> ACR: The generitive part is not ML, the ML part is not generative<br /> Smart layer blending/Smart infill/ AI image upscaling: Again not banned as not generative<br /> AI generated CSS or Java script: not user facing content<br /> the music stuff that was discussed in 04<br /> Idea generation</p> <p>There is some forms of AI image generation that is not covered by this policy, but anything that requires a week of work by someone with a masters degree to do is something I don't think we need to worry about banning.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Ethagon</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>5844683</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Agreeing with <span class="printuser avatarhover"><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/lordxvnv" ><img class="small" src="https://www.wikidot.com/avatar.php?userid=1813809&amp;amp;size=small&amp;amp;timestamp=1700602431" alt="LORDXVNV" style="background-image:url(https://www.wikidot.com/userkarma.php?u=1813809)" /></a><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/lordxvnv" >LORDXVNV</a></span> and <span class="printuser avatarhover"><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/lt-flops" ><img class="small" src="https://www.wikidot.com/avatar.php?userid=1735419&amp;amp;size=small&amp;amp;timestamp=1700602431" alt="Lt Flops" style="background-image:url(https://www.wikidot.com/userkarma.php?u=1735419)" /></a><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/lt-flops" >Lt Flops</a></span>. I do think overall that the same result could be achieved by just slightly rewording the existing policy to be more encompassing.</p> <p>I do think it's probably also a good idea that the rule that forbids AI art still stays there even if it's superfluous as art is probably the most effected by AI-usage on the wiki.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2023 09:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>ACR is a full machine learning model, its not a deep learning model, but that is a difference in scale as opposed to of type.</p> <p>&quot;A maximum of 5 layers in a neural network&quot; is not a useful metric.</p> <p>I should have a more useful definition soon.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2023 13:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Lt Flops</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1735419</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>When we get to the stage of hashing out the definitions, I would want those with a better understanding of AI to define what exactly &quot;generative&quot; would entail.</p> <p>That said, seconding.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2023 05:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I would feel more comfortable with this rule if we specifically narrowed it down to &quot;generative AI&quot; and had ambiguity within the definition of <em>that</em> term as opposed to leaving it as vague as <em>all</em> AI. Generative AI has a very specific connotation that aligns with the obvious intent of the policy. We're already seeing confusion &#8212; some in this very thread &#8212; that this ban would prevent the use of tools like Grammarly. It's pretty obvious upon reading the phrase &quot;AI-generated works&quot; that banning generative AI alone is the intent of the policy, and I would insist on any rule implementation specifically saying <em>generative</em> AI. If the phrase &quot;all AI is banned&quot; makes it into site rules without suitable nuance I will argue for every AIAD work to be deleted until the rules are clarified.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 03:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I vaguely agree with this sentiment, though I think many of the given use cases are semi-useful at best, and only one involves actual posting of AI-generated work to the Wiki (ACR is more an algorithm than an LLM/deep learning model, which is what we're referring to when we say &quot;AI&quot;). From my understanding of Naepic's intention and post, none of these (besides <em>maybe</em> the alt text one) would be banned even according to the stricter interpretations of Naepic's wording.</p> <p>That said, I do support explicitly codifying what we're <em>intending</em> to ban in greater detail, rather than just slapping a &quot;No AI&quot; sticker on the Wiki and calling it a day.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 00:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>In favour.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2023 22:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>In favor</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Yeah this is my thoughts as well. While I am against using generative machine learning to write fiction<sup class="footnoteref"><a id="footnoteref-909293-1" href="javascript:;" class="footnoteref" >1</a></sup>, AI can be very useful and I am rather uncomfortable about wide scaling banning.</p> <div class="footnotes-footer"> <div class="title">Footnotes</div> <div class="footnote-footer" id="footnote-909293-1"><a href="javascript:;" >1</a>. mostly if you made and trained the AI yourself it is just regular art, though I will have to question the effort needed</div> </div> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Our opposition to AI shouldn't have the kind of reactionary tenor that I've seen in some staff discussions about it and even in this thread. This may, unintentionally, reflect poorly on us in future Internet discussions on the topic of AI-based tools. I'm also not sure how I feel about the response to this issue being an all-fronts action without nuance at the edges. I can see how this process of beginning with generalities and then drilling down to the specifics might be pragmatic. As it stands, though, we can't actually enforce blanket policy; it must differentiate the specifics to be actionable. I also see here a stated opposition to <em>all</em> uses of AI on the Wiki. But this is despite the fact that we still have Grammarly and DeepL in the letter of our rules and, in an explicit staff capacity, we have even made use of AI to facilitate a small set of vital tasks as they relate to Curation (please correct me if I'm wrong).</p> <p>I've argued in the past<sup><strong><a href="http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-15644770/discussion-ai-content-on-the-wiki#post-5982229" target="_blank">(1)</a></strong> / <strong><a href="http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-15827344/discussion-ai-generated-text-on-the-wiki#post-6061847" target="_blank">(2)</a></strong></sup> that when creatives, as a practice, rely on AI to generate creative works, there may exist stultifying effects downstream from engaging in that practice that stunt their growth as an artist/author. However, as it relates to on-site works, this is not the only possible use of AI. There are contexts in which you can use AI to do wondrous things to expand the accessibility and interactivity of works on the Wiki without entering the territory of machine-generated imagery (be that textual, artistic, or something else). The proof is in the pudding:</p> <ol> <li>Many of the tens of thousands of images on the Wiki lack alt text.<sup class="footnoteref"><a id="footnoteref-203128-1" href="javascript:;" class="footnoteref" >1</a></sup> There exist AI tools that can take image inputs and produce alt text that screen readers can parse. As a caveat, this technology is still limited: it's prone to make mistakes, act with bias, and exhibit context-blindness, so a degree of human intervention is necessary. (That said, the honest Wiki contributor <em>should</em> also intervene where necessary when using Grammarly and DeepL, because these tools are similarly imperfect.)</li> <li>Hubs that contain lists of articles often include flavourful excerpts from said articles to pique reader interest. AI-based tools, like ChatGPT, are able to select (what is deemed) the most interesting excerpt(s) from an article, thereby maximizing the likelihood that readers go on to read the article in question.</li> <li><strong><a href="https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/algorithm-curated-recommendations" target="_blank">Algorithm Curated Recommendations</a></strong>. Self-explanatory.</li> </ol> <p>It also doesn't make sense to limit this discussion to the end-user. This policy extension, if enacted, should also concern staff. For instance:</p> <ol> <li>Staff members may make use of tools that detect machine-generated text content, to help confirm whether select articles were AI-generated. These tools themselves make use of AI in their operation.</li> <li>Staff members may also make use of tools that detect plagiarism, some of which make use of AI in their operation.</li> </ol> <p>Hence, it would further benefit the Wiki as a whole to consider whitelisting in our policy the use of some or all of the AI-based techniques I just laid out.</p> <hr /> <p><strong>TLDR:</strong> I support extending our existing policy into the domain of machine-generated sound content. But our opposition to AI shouldn't be dogmatic. We don't oppose AI along the lines of a neo-Luddite moralism. We oppose it only where it conflicts with the values we hold as a writing community.</p> <hr /> <div class="footnotes-footer"> <div class="title">Footnotes</div> <div class="footnote-footer" id="footnote-203128-1"><a href="javascript:;" >1</a>. <strong><a href="https://w.wiki/88bb" target="_blank">alt text</a>:</strong> A text caption, associated with an image or other element, that is rendered if the usual content cannot be rendered.</div> </div> <p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:65%;">This post was <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> written by ChatGPT.</span></p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2023 15:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2023 11:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>About time to rid this site of AI. Full support.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2023 04:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2023 00:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>An enthusiastically creative community is no place for AI. Full support for this.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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						 <p>I brought this up as a concern in staffchat this morning; naturally, I am in full support of making our AI policy more comprehensive.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>well guess it's time to get rid of Grammarly once and for all<br /> In support.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>As I said on Twitter if you cannot be bothered to make it yourself, I cannot be bothered to read it. We are a creative writing website, make things yourself rather than regurgitating slop from a computer. Supporting a ban.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <h3><span>In favor.</span></h3> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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						 <p>Support; Im surprised this wasn't already the case. I agree with others that there needs to be further discussion on idea generation however.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I think &quot;idea generation&quot; warrants discussion, but as you said this isn't the place; I hope this is eventually discussed though.</p> <table class="wiki-content-table"> <tr> <th>Support Level:</th> <td>103%</td> </tr> </table> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Mew-ltiverse</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>5271378</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Support, AI needs to go</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>scalykitty</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>8398456</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Full support</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Nipixel_Paxel</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>6066628</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Definitely in favor. I’m not sure about whitelisting ai for idea generation though, but I’ll save that for another time.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Guaire</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>5643605</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Full support</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>DianaBerry</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>3444428</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Full support, AI needs to go.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>torcsandantlers</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>5963598</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Full, enthusiastic support.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Kufat</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>2336666</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Support. I wouldn't mind axing 'idea generation' from the exception list as well, although I'm not sure if that should be in this discussion or a separate one.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Cicada3301Fan</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>8412982</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Absolutely in favor.</p> 
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				<title>Re: [DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Uncle Nicolini</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>3487700</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>in favor. it's about time.</p> 
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				<title>[DISCUSSION] AI, but again</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Naepic</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>4463776</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>O4: <a href="https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-16451657/ai-but-again">https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-16451657/ai-but-again</a>#</p> <h1><span>Proposal: Stop beating around the bush. We're blanket-banning AI stuff.</span></h1> <p>This is a general policy discussion. I am uninterested in hashing out the definitions of AI, because that is not the assignment here.</p> <p>The point is that we are extending our current policy of &quot;blacklisted until otherwise stated&quot; to encompass all AI-generated works, not just text or images. This will include, but is <strong>not limited to</strong>, AI voices and whatever else nightmarish stupidity techbros come up with.</p> <p>We will grandfather into the whitelist the stuff already allowed in the original policies:</p> <blockquote> <p>the use of tools which use AI or AI-adjacent scripting in their operation (such as Grammarly, DeepL or GPT) to assist with grammar, critique, translation and idea generation is allowed</p> </blockquote> <p>Again, the point here is not to try and define what is and isn't AI. That can be debated later on. The point to make here is that we are expanding the scope of the current policy to encompass AI everything, instead of having two separate but effectively identical policies for text and writing, and nothing else.</p> <p>tl;dr: blanket banning all ai stuff</p> <p><iframe src="https://scpwiki.github.io/timer/timer.html?lang=en&amp;time=2023-11-26T21%3A55%3A26.178Z" align="" frameborder="" height="" scrolling="" width="" class="" style="width: 750px; height: 200px; border: 0; text-align: center;"></iframe></p> 
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