Drake

Re: Drake

Tue, 08 Mar 2022 03:20:07 +0000

User appealed. Logs below:

2022-03-07 20:50:34 Drake: I was banned from site 19 for a week for using the word trap to speak about someone who is a male that wears female clothing, I do not use it in bad taste as I see it as a word that speaks about something other than trans people, who I do respect with all due respect, I was kicked earlier for using a slur and I had formally apologized for that. It
2022-03-07 20:50:34 Drake: also feels wrong for people to refer to me as “Cis Boy” just because I said such a word, and the ban happened after half an hour after I said the word trap. I feel this ban is in bad taste as I was just trying to joke around with everyone else. There was no harm meant by it. Thank you for taking the time to read this and I do not know if this
2022-03-07 20:50:34 Drake: appeal will work or if I will just get banned longer for saying these things. Hope you all have a great day and have fun doing scp things.
2022-03-07 21:01:15 Athenodora: Drake alright. I can take this appeal
2022-03-07 21:01:16 Hex: Drake: Please stand by. I'm trying to find someone to take your appeal.
2022-03-07 21:01:19 Hex: Nvm.
2022-03-07 21:01:23 Athenodora: give me a moment to read through the logs
2022-03-07 21:09:15 Athenodora: Drake okay, explain to me - what's the etymology of this use of the word "trap"?
2022-03-07 21:12:45 TawnyOwlJones: Athenodora:
2022-03-07 21:13:06 Athenodora: Drake okay, explain to me - what's the etymology of this use of the word "trap"?
2022-03-07 21:13:48 Drake: The use of the word trap refers to a male dressed as a female, used normally in the anime community to refer to characters such as Felix from re:zero and Alstolfo from the fate series, not to talk about trans people, the people that are referenced are always males dressed as females when referenced. I am unaware of how it is used outside the
2022-03-07 21:13:48 Drake: community.
2022-03-07 21:14:53 Athenodora: Drake why would anyone refer to a group of people as a trap? As a snare, a thing of deceit?
2022-03-07 21:15:04 Athenodora: explain to me the logic behind the term here
2022-03-07 21:17:52 Drake: well, that is exactly what it is. Traps in anime are meant to throw the watchers of the anime off. They always identify as male, even though looking at them you would assume them to be female. So it is a thing of deceit for the animators or the writers.
2022-03-07 21:18:41 Drake: Intentional writing to trick others.
2022-03-07 21:23:27 Athenodora: Drake sounds like your anime likes to play with bigotry and stereotypes as a plot device, then
2022-03-07 21:23:44 Athenodora: are you sure that's something you should bring up in chat?
2022-03-07 21:25:48 Athenodora: Drake how old are you, anyway?
2022-03-07 21:26:27 Drake: I don’t know what you are referencing as I believe that the anime community started using the word trap before they became mainstream to reference actual people like that. It is a plot device used in anime and the main purpose of the word in the community is to poke fun at that specific character, never to cause harm to a person. I am 18, soon
2022-03-07 21:26:27 Drake: going to turn 19.
2022-03-07 21:26:52 Athenodora: > before they became mainstream to reference actual people like that
2022-03-07 21:27:07 Athenodora: Drake so you're acknowledging that it is used as a slur against actual people
2022-03-07 21:28:22 Jackyfudge: Hey, sorry for interrupting your conversation but I was wondering. What's the normal time of respondence to a sandbox application? I was just wondering if wikidot was being slow or I was doing something wrong or some other reason.
2022-03-07 21:28:26 Drake: I believe that it was a fine topic to bring up as it was from old memes, since I don’t go mainstream at all and stay in the niche anime area of word choice, I did not really know how it was a slur until today. I never hear it in public
2022-03-07 21:28:50 Athenodora: Drake so, explain to me why were you doubling down with "I don’t know why you people are saying it is a slur" afterwards?
2022-03-07 21:29:09 Athenodora: "I have used this word forever to represent that and I do not say in in a rude manner. I am personally bisexual and enjoy trans people and traps, so I don’t know why you people are saying it is a slur." as the full quote
2022-03-07 21:29:38 Athenodora: Jackyfudge I'm taking a ban appeal at the moment, but I can check if you're on the Sandbox invite list already or not. What's your Wikidot username?
2022-03-07 21:29:42 TawnyOwlJones: Jackyfudge: please stand by. i'll open a pm window with you.
2022-03-07 21:29:47 TawnyOwlJones: Athenodora: i've got it
2022-03-07 21:29:51 Drake: Because it is a word I have used forever. I enjoy traps as a plot device and I don’t see how trap is used as a slur
2022-03-07 21:30:22 Drake: I have never seen it used in a manner that is wrong such as trying to hurt people emotionally
2022-03-07 21:32:04 Drake: You also need to understand that I have a couple mental issues that also make it difficult to understand why others get mad at things such as this. I understand physical pain, but don’t know how emotional pain works with real life people.
2022-03-07 21:36:03 Drake: I have level 1 autism and ADHD working against me in understanding people.
2022-03-07 21:36:21 Athenodora: Drake well, now you've been told that it's a slur that has a history of being used against actual people
2022-03-07 21:37:05 Drake: I see, I am sorry for my use of it, I still do not understand why it was so long after the use of the word that I got banned from the server
2022-03-07 21:37:08 Athenodora: Drake well, I have autism level 2 and ADHD, so I can sympathise
2022-03-07 21:37:38 Athenodora: Drake and as for the delay, it was because us operators were discussing the appropriate ban length and so forth
2022-03-07 21:40:16 Drake: I see, I understand that.
2022-03-07 21:40:46 Athenodora: in any case, you do understand that you were directly told that it was a slur - i.e. a term used maliciously against actual people - at first, before the ban, right?
2022-03-07 21:43:07 Drake: I don’t get why words used by niche communities can go mainstream without being a slur, can go mainstream and become slurs. It feels like I constantly walk on eggshells whenever I am on the internet. I was told “don’t use that word” by one person, then told “you are walking on thin ice” by one of the mods, not really much of an
2022-03-07 21:43:07 Drake: explaination if you ask me
2022-03-07 21:44:43 Drake: and when I had been told “don’t use that word” the moment had past so long ago that I had no clues what that meant
2022-03-07 21:45:00 Drake: so I had to actively ask what they meant.
2022-03-07 21:49:27 Athenodora: Drake in all honesty, I am suspicious about your claim of being of the age you say you are at, insofar as I'd expect people of that age to have had more of a sense of what is or isn't good behaviour in a social context than that
2022-03-07 21:51:54 Athenodora: Drake anyway, it's a short ban, and after consideration, I'm going to let it stand

Appeal denied.

Drake

Tue, 08 Mar 2022 02:06:39 +0000

Chat user Drake (hostmask: SCP-45qcpg.reverse.socket.net) has been banned from #site19 for a week for saying multiple slurs. Several chat users PMed me, one noting that Drake had been acting similarly prior to my joining the chat. Logs below (CW slurs):

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In 19, prior to my joining chat:

[18:27] I cannot get onto the forums tho
[18:27] Evening all
[18:27] oh, the lounge is back up?
[18:27] hello, soundchaser.
[18:27] Oh sweet, it wasn't just me, hi
[18:28] No forum mean no green light, no green light mean no noob getting to post responsibly, no noob posting responsibly means no new scp, no new scp mean noob sad
[18:28] i like the layout of thelounge more, but irccloud has more benefits.
[18:28] hmm…
[18:29] Drake oh sorry have you talked to the moderators for help?
[18:29] Yes, I am just a person with autism and adhd, I literally just put in my application last night and I am impatient
[18:30] EYYYY ADHD gang
[18:30] I might also have autism but that's not diagnosed lol
[18:30] I also can legally say the r word
[18:30] yes but please don't say it here
[18:30] I know
[18:30] it is considered a slur and will get you in trouble
[18:31] I can say the f slur and t slur technically 😎 not gonna though ofc
[18:31] @drake well guess your gonna have to wait it out
[18:31] yea please don't talk about slurs
[18:31] wait, does that mean black people on here cannot say the n word
[18:31] no
[18:31] noone can
[18:31] damn
[18:31] Slurs are banned period lol
[18:31] ^
[18:31] Now I'm picturing like a system where you prove your race to mods.
[18:32] LMAOO
[18:32] no
[18:32] no please no
[18:32] Drake you need to be patient, there's way more new authors than reviewers
[18:32] .l
[18:32] im mexican if anyone cares
[18:32] How would I prove my gayness and transness though? 🤔
[18:32] Kingbibis Like genetically or do you actually live in Mexico?
[18:32] Add making gay people kiss a d you've basically got British immigration policy
[18:32] Yes, that would be entertaining, especially since that would mean that each individual race could use thier own slurs
[18:32] Kingbibis, no offence but no-one would care
[18:32] generically
[18:33] DrIsaacLemone, hmmm I wonder the same thing about myself
[18:33] LMAOO
[18:33] NyaaTheKitten i now take full offence please send 2000$
[18:33] shit
[18:33] we need to get Nysa canceled on twitter now
[18:34] nyaa*
[18:34] god autocorrect
[18:34] #cancelnyaa2022 /j
[18:34] DrIsaacLemone You have to fill out an application to explain why Mr. House was right.
[18:34] nyaathekitten > hellothehuman
[18:34] Or some Fallout shit idk.
[18:34] DrIsaacLemone, one of my friends actually did try to cancel me so please don't joke about that :)
[18:34] .ch pizza, no
[18:34] UraniumEmpire: pizza
[18:34] .ch pizza, no
[18:34] UraniumEmpire: pizza
[18:34] .ch pizza, no
[18:34] UraniumEmpire: pizza
[18:34] okay!
[18:34] eat pizza
[18:34] Nyaathekitten oh uh, I'm sorry I didn't know that :(
[18:34] it's ok
[18:34] What?
[18:35] Also uh drblackbox who is Dr house exactly? ^_^"
[18:35] DrIsaacLemone Guy in Fallout I think.
[18:35] Ah okay.
[18:35] Super-capitalist bad guy or something.
[18:35] I am sorry for my joke, but why would you honestly feel the need to cancel someone in this day and age
[18:35] I mean, if they did some SUPER fucked up shit then like I get "cancelling" them but people get cancelled over stupid things so like,,,
[18:36] Its stupid, may I say, mentally handicapped
[18:36] drblackbox my loyalty can be bought i always side with the house
[18:36] DrIsaacLemone, I got cancelled for, get this, saying "hi"
[18:36] Drake you may not say that
[18:36] Drake Yeah I don't think the mods like that, either.
[18:36] yea some of the people I knew were shit
[18:36] Nyaathekitten wh- h u h??? Jesus Christ that's awful I'm so sorry dude
[18:37] …How did you meet these people?
[18:37] What, handicapped is not allowed? Even if I am?
[18:37] god
[18:37] you know its always on twitter where i see cancelled things going on so i stay off
[18:37] skate on thin ice in this world i guess
[18:37] Saying "mentally handicapped" in place of "stupid" could be taken rather poorly.
[18:37] Drake please do not compare general stupidity to being mentally handicapped
[18:38] I mean, it costs nothing not to say a few words in certain situations
[18:38] "It's not about the money."
[18:38] Well, I have no filter
[18:39] Drake, that's not good
[18:39] Just like me not swearing in front of my boss or something
[18:39] If you have no filter then please either get one or leave
[18:39] “It’s about the Mets baby”
[18:39] Drake you're probs gonna get kicked, banned, or muted if you don't tone it down a bit- ^_^" /lh
[18:39] drblackbox, I met them from a former friend…I think that should prove all the context
[18:40] I will stop using the derogatory terminology
[18:40] I excommunicated all of em from my friend group
[18:40] I don't think I've ever met a mod before
[18:40] Helen, technically.
[18:40] helen is a robot tho
[18:40] I've met Dr Fullham
[18:41] Am I allowed to say the word witch though? Like burn the witch?
[18:41] I…guess? Unless there's some bad meaning to it I'm not aware of.
[18:41] .yt burn the witch radiohead
[18:42] Oh shi-
[18:42] .yt wolf in sheep’s clothing set it off
[18:42] someone in my gov class (which is the easiest class ever, and they have a10% somehow) used special ed as an insult today. The funny thing is, i am a special ed kid, and I have a 97%…
[18:42] I HATH SUMMONED HIM LMAO
[18:42] Drake: oh god, wolf in sheep's clothing…
[18:42] go by basic rules if you won't say it in front of your mama don't say it at all
[18:42] I am surprised that that worked
[18:42] I don’t speak to my mama
[18:42] If you say someone's name it pings them
[18:43] Of course that's not an invitation to ping anyone unless you have a legitimate reason to talk to them
[18:43] moonagain like this
[18:43] Not exactly.
[18:43] Mooagain like this?
[18:43] Drake Like that.
[18:43] It didn't show the name in color so I didn't think I pinged them, my bad ^-^
[18:43] You have to spell it right lol
[18:43] is magain a mod? if so i have indeed met a mod
[18:44] p.s magain ty for help
[18:44] I'm crit staff not chat staff
[18:44] I realized that some days i may also have some problems with other disorders that I am not fully aware of
[18:44] I probably have schizophrenia or something.
[18:44] Do you see the scps that kill schizos?
[18:45] … God, I wonder how many scps go after people with mental disorders
[18:45] not many
[18:45] A lot of the poorly written ones do
[18:45] I'm healthy in terms of like psyche but in body i got asthma eczema and lactose intolerance
[18:46] So many I want to write one where only mentally ill people can work with it
[18:46] I think some like, do things to people that cause disorders.
[18:46] I am imagining an scp that goes after the people with adhd just because we have too much energy for our own good
[18:46] SoundChaser There's that S1 one that only schizophrenic people can see.
[18:46] Soundchaser OOOO THAT SOUNDS COOL
[18:46] there is an Scp that causes suicided or more like it's the main reason for suicide
[18:47] And it's probably super insensitive

In 19:

00:41 Is midget a slur here, do I have to say munchkin or dwarf?

User was kicked at this point.

In my PMs:

00:43 May I come back, I am sorry, I have curiousity issues and I needed to know so I did not say it later on

I didn't reply, and they rejoined 19.

In 19:

Kicked again following this.

00:46 I now know all slurs, unless i am misunderstanding, I am allowed to say dwarf, correct? I like dwarves, they got battle axes

User apologised:

00:48 I apologize for using a slur. I formally recognize my mistake, I am 18 years old going on 19 soon, I will not say when. I grew up in a military household so some words get into my vocabulary that should not be there

User was warned with the following:

Drake: please be aware this is an official warning for your previous comments. per standard escalation, you will be banned on next infraction. please familiarise yourself with the chat guide, so you don't break any further rules. https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/chat-guide

Chat moved on at this point, but quickly circled back to slurs when Drake referred to a character as a "tr*p" (uncensored). Was called out by multiple users for this and doubled down:

[20:04] oh my god why have i never made a cat character with the name felix before
[20:05] NO
[20:05] garfield
[20:05] NO FELIX
[20:05] Ash C. Furball
[20:05] ash would be a good name…
[20:05] FELIX IS A TRAP, AAAAAAAAAAAA
[20:05] did t
[20:05] did someone say furry
[20:05] me!
[20:05] Deez furry nuts
[20:05] Avery J. Fern
[20:05] https://lounge.bluesoul.net/uploads/745e1e628be5e38c/IMG_5119.PNG furry!
[20:05] avery j fern would also be good.
[20:06] fern is like fur-n
[20:06] avery j fern for now.
[20:06] thanks, winkwonk!
[20:06] Nice
[20:06] np
[20:06] Ash the shedder
[20:06] Ash the ketchum
[20:06] NebulousStar please consider naming them after me
[20:06] Drake can you not use that word
[20:06] NebulousStar instead consider naming them after me
[20:07] Drake: you're on very thin ice
[20:07] for all you cats out there, I'm not responsible for chasing you on the full moon. I swear I just think you're a weird puppy and need to be fed
[20:07] What, I said shedder, like how dogs shed, how is that a slur
[20:07] i meant before that
[20:07] about the name felix
[20:08] Werewolf story but it encounters something far stranger and worse in the night.
[20:08] .s dogman
[20:08] winkwonkboi: SCP-6254: Beware Dogman (Rating: +26. Written 8 hours ago By: Dr Leonerd) - http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-6254
[20:08] werewolf story but then the werewolf finds the WEREWEREWOLF
[20:08] ACTUALLY
[20:08] Wheres the arewolf tho?
[20:08] was planning on my researchers back story being that
[20:08] The Wherewolf.
[20:08] it me
[20:08] A trap? which is what he is in the anime called Re:Zero? Is the preferred word femboy here? I am confused.
[20:09] A lovecraftian entity that warps the concept of its location.
[20:09] I was the werewolf all along
[20:09] what about the waswolf and iswolf? singular wolves, too!
[20:09] Speaking of werewolves, is it weird that I thought it came from "where is the wolf" instead of "man wolf" (wer=man) for most of my life
[20:09] willbewolf
[20:09] Havewolf
[20:09] previouslypossessedwolf
[20:09] werewolf's are just subpar compared to Florida's weregator
[20:09] Werewolf but it turns out to just be a persona the man embodies at night.
[20:09] Nan3rz what if the real werewolf were the friends we made along the way?
[20:10] the real werewolf is this gun i found along the way
[20:10] Werecrocodile, elderscrolls
[20:10] Bang bang silver bullets
[20:10] werebethesda holy shit scariest monster
[20:10] winkwonkboi: the real werewolf is the anthrax i'msending in your mail. /j
[20:10] Ahhhhhhhhhhh
[20:10] delicious
[20:10] hey now. I like to think of myself as a whywolf
[20:10] Mooagain I mean, "where's wolf" is an important question to ask
[20:10] a creature possessed by the spirit of inquiry
[20:10] No, therewolf
[20:11] Whatwolf
[20:11] weregator just rolls off the tongue
[20:11] howwolf
[20:11] arguably more relevant on whether the wolf spends some time in fang-less, fur-less monkey form or not
[20:11] i'm a whowolf.
[20:11] or a whatwolf.
[20:11] *more relevant than
[20:11] where is wolf
[20:11] Anyone know young Frankenstein
[20:11] Athenodora but nobody ever asks how is the wolf
[20:11] Damn
[20:11] thats deep
[20:11] frankenstein's monster in the book is just
[20:11] drake: my dad references it.
[20:11] Mooagain exactly
[20:11] "yo dad you gave me weird eyes why did you disown me"
[20:11] I recommend that movie, funny, but old
[20:11] “Cus u r a monster”
[20:11] Hot take: The townspeople are playing god, not the doctor.
[20:12] Or not exclusively him.
[20:12] winkwonkboi "but i'm a metaphor for humanity"
[20:12] young Frankenstein is not the same as the actual Frankensteins monster
[20:12] I am a metaphor for twitter
[20:12] Frankenstein's doctor is a piece of shit but so is everyone else that tried to kill a guy for having glowy eyes
[20:12] ayyyy! my eevee finally evolved!!!
[20:12] Glowy eyes are kinda cool ngl
[20:13] which did it evolve into
[20:13] trans pokemon.
[20:13] winkwonkboi Not when I'm trying to sleep
[20:13] sylveon.
[20:13] since none of yall are asking, I'm an idiot who spent her last $19 on noodles and company (had a free meal to be fair but delivery is expensive)
[20:13] y e s
[20:13] Its now an eedoubleyou
[20:13] i like sylveon. quite a lot.
[20:13] plot twist
[20:13] that's how I'm doing right now
[20:13] frankenstein's monster is just wearing cool contacts he found
[20:13] Everyone was just jealous
[20:13] of his cool contacts
[20:13] So sad
[20:14] RoseRose the true horror is SHARING PERSONAL MEDICAL EQUIPMENT
[20:14] No, it was the fact that it was literally a creature that did not know how to properly convey its emotions that could literally kill someone in one punch and is made out of sown together body parts that dr. Frankenstein disowned as soon as he finished making the thing
[20:14] gasp
[20:14] Drake it was a joke-
[20:15] I like the whole "monster is an asshole because you were mean to it" thing.
[20:15] favorite Frankenstein movie is obviously Van Helsing
[20:15] drblackbox "oh shit it's an ogre wait shit ITS SHREK NO DONT HURT ME"
[20:15] Nan3rz I gotta rewatch that
[20:15] shrek 2 is on netflix now. :>
[20:15] shriek
[20:15] Shrek top tier waifu
[20:15] peppermint_legos everyone stop right now
[20:15] The OSP video on Frankenstein is great
[20:16] I see. And my joke went went right over other people’s heads earlier due to something that I enjoyed. It is hard to portray jokes over the internet some days
[20:16] SHREK AND VAN HELSING WATCH PARTY
[20:16] Oh shit yes
[20:16] that'd be fun.
[20:16] Are they like Dark Side of the Moon and Wizard of Oz, where you play them simultaneously and they synchronize?
[20:16] ninjago
[20:16] opinions
[20:17] Or do we have to watch 1 movie at a time like little baby children do
[20:17] Drake okay but that word is super derogatory towards trans people. just because it's in anime doesn't make it right
[20:17] I like to watch anime and Re:Zero is a pretty good one to watch.
[20:17] The ninjago theme song just played in my head
[20:17] Nan3rz as a trans woman CAN CONFIRM.
[20:17] wait who said what?
09[20:17] * NyaaTheKitten smells transphobia to step on
[20:17] Drake there is nothing wrong with anime but you have to understand some concepts are not ok.
[20:18] Nan3rz RoseRose I don't know the word or the context, is somebody willing to share so this cis boi can update his no-go vocab list
[20:18] Ok, it is not derogatory, it is literally a word used by the anime community to say a boy who looks like a girl
[20:18] The anime community shouldn't be used as a basis for ethics.
[20:18] it's a deurogatory term used by a shit ton of people to refer to trans women
04[20:18] * Drake was kicked by TawnyOwlJones (you were told to stop saying slurs)
[20:18] your definition is what-oh okay
[20:18] move on please

User PMed me again:

01:26 That time i did not even say a slur, a trap is a common used word in the anime community to say that a boy looks like a girl. I have used this word forever to represent that and I do not say in in a rude manner. I am personally bisexual and enjoy trans people and traps, so I don’t know why you people are saying it is a slur. Traps also can
01:26 reference a girl who looks like a boy dependent on context. And how are people just allowed to say Cis when I say something that is semi”transphobic” even though I am not at all transphobic. Felix was a male cat person, he was not trans at all, he just enjoyed wearing girls clothing. A trans person and a trap are different.

An appeal is available to them.

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