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SuperSecretStaffChat Snippet Thread: Re: SuperSecretStaffChat Snippet Thread

Mon, 25 Oct 2021 17:53:54 +0000

Context: a user have the name of Joe Biden as their username.

Limeyy — Aujourd’hui à 19:48
does being an american president constitute unacceptable offsite behavior?

3 Yossi 5 2 1 Possi 3 (dvorak)
another one!?

Xiddartha Alonne — Aujourd’hui à 19:48
… you mean as "Another user called Joe Biden" or "Another Biden??" ?

3 Yossi 5 2 1 Possi 3 (dvorak) — Aujourd’hui à 19:48
latter

Edna P. Granbo — Aujourd’hui à 19:49
New discussion for aht, does being the president count as harrasment.

3 Yossi 5 2 1 Possi 3 (dvorak) — Aujourd’hui à 19:49
aht banned for allowing obama to drone strike children

stormspooken — Aujourd’hui à 19:49
If Joe Biden is so good why is there no Joe Biden two

SuperSecretStaffChat Snippet Thread: Re: SuperSecretStaffChat Snippet Thread

Fri, 28 May 2021 17:50:01 +0000

[+] content notes: nsfw language, onceler, baudrillard

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May 28 18:26:41 <+Secretary_Helen> Riemann: [18/25] the whole onceler-incest thing from tumblr is a pretty good example of simulacra and the hyperreal
May 28 18:26:49 <@Riemann> I stand by that
May 28 18:26:56 <@cybersqyd> what does that even mean
May 28 18:27:00 <@Dr_Kens> lmao
May 28 18:27:07 <@Riemann> how long do we have
May 28 18:27:31 * cybersqyd considers
May 28 18:27:34 <@cybersqyd> two hours?
May 28 18:28:19 <@Riemann> ok
May 28 18:28:20 <@Riemann> so
May 28 18:28:27 <@Riemann> are you familiar with the recent remake of The Lorax
May 28 18:28:39 <@Riemann> by Illuumination studios
May 28 18:28:47 <@cybersqyd> uhhh not really no
May 28 18:28:51 <@cybersqyd> like i am aware it exists
May 28 18:29:01 <@Riemann> that's gonna make this more difficult
May 28 18:29:03 <@cybersqyd> and that it has some characters, including one called onceler
May 28 18:29:08 <@Riemann> are you familiar with the original onceler
May 28 18:29:09 <@cybersqyd> but that's about the extent of my knowledge
May 28 18:29:12 <@cybersqyd> also no
May 28 18:29:23 <@Riemann> ok well
May 28 18:29:26 <@Riemann> I mean
May 28 18:29:28 <@Riemann> I
May 28 18:29:33 * Riemann flails
May 28 18:29:40 * cybersqyd maces
May 28 18:29:45 <@Riemann> then none of this is gonna make sense!
May 28 18:30:00 <@cybersqyd> probably not no
May 28 18:30:11 <@cybersqyd> i do know what a simulacra is if that helps
May 28 18:30:30 <@cybersqyd> and also what hyperreality is
May 28 18:30:58 <@Riemann> those are both well explained by this whole onceler thing
May 28 18:31:03 <@Riemann> but if you don't know what that is then
May 28 18:31:05 <@Riemann> grumble grumble
May 28 18:31:15 <@Riemann> OK
May 28 18:31:16 <@Riemann> SO
May 28 18:31:22 <@Riemann> IN THE ORIGINAL LORAX
May 28 18:31:23 <@Dr_Kens> penis
May 28 18:31:29 <@Riemann> THE ONCELER REPRESENTS FACELESS CORPORATE GREED
May 28 18:31:32 <@Riemann> HIS FACE IS NEVER SEEN
May 28 18:31:40 <@Riemann> AND HE IS DEPICTED AS AN OLD MAN FULL OF REGRETS
May 28 18:31:52 <@Riemann> IN THE ILLUUMINATION STUDIOS ADAPTATION
May 28 18:31:58 <@Riemann> THEY MAKE HIM A SOFT FUCK BOY
May 28 18:32:13 <@Riemann> inexplicably
May 28 18:32:18 <@Dr_Kens> I was not expecting Riemann to scream "soft fuck boy" in chat but I"m here for it
May 28 18:32:38 <@Riemann> people on tumblr got really hot and bothered by this
May 28 18:32:42 <@Riemann> and as they are want to do
May 28 18:32:49 <@Riemann> began shipping the onceler with people
May 28 18:32:54 <@Riemann> and herein lies the problem
May 28 18:33:10 <@Riemann> the onceler is the only person in that movie that is an adult human
May 28 18:33:16 <@Riemann> which makes shipping inherently difficult
May 28 18:33:45 <@Riemann> so people began shipping the onceler with… himself. The past onceler and the future onceler started getting shipped
May 28 18:33:48 <@Riemann> until that got boring
May 28 18:33:55 <%Hex> .aq Riemann THEY MAKE HIM A SOFT FUCK BOY
May 28 18:33:56 <+Secretary_Helen> Hex: *Jots that down on her clipboard* Gotcha, I'll remember they said that.
May 28 18:34:04 <&DrBleep> What
May 28 18:34:11 <@Riemann> and then people started developing alternate universe oncelers to ship together
May 28 18:34:16 <&DrBleep> I
May 28 18:34:19 <@cybersqyd> hey bleep
May 28 18:34:26 <@Riemann> so you'd have original onceler and some, like
May 28 18:34:29 <@cybersqyd> riemann is teaching us about onceler, hyperreality and simulacra
May 28 18:34:31 <@Riemann> alternate onceler
May 28 18:34:31 <@Dr_Kens> DrBleep: welcome
May 28 18:34:32 <%Hex> Riemann: You lost me after "THEY MAKE HIM A SOFT FUCK BOY."
May 28 18:34:41 <&DrBleep> I'm just
May 28 18:34:46 <@Riemann> and this is where we enter the desert of the hyperreal, my friends
May 28 18:34:50 <@cybersqyd> it's important staff business
May 28 18:34:57 <@Riemann> eventually, people start shipping alternate oncelers with each other
May 28 18:35:07 <&DrBleep> Right, for once I actually would rather participate in 19
May 28 18:35:22 <@Riemann> the original onceler is no longer involved, and people are just trading in references to references
May 28 18:35:30 <@Riemann> there is no original copy, only copies of copies
May 28 18:35:37 <@cybersqyd> Bleep: would you prefer we moved this elsewhere?
May 28 18:36:14 <@Riemann> we have moved beyond the sfb part and we are now largely into the theory discussion
May 28 18:36:26 <@cybersqyd> sfb?
May 28 18:36:35 <@Riemann> it is an acronym
May 28 18:36:39 <@Riemann> for the onceler
May 28 18:36:47 <@cybersqyd> oh soft fuck boy
May 28 18:36:47 <@Riemann> I will not be more explicit
May 28 18:36:49 <@Riemann> >:(
May 28 18:36:53 <@cybersqyd> i will
May 28 18:37:01 <@Dr_Kens> lmao
May 28 18:37:11 <@Riemann> anyways
May 28 18:37:34 <@Riemann> Baudrillard defines hyperreality as "the generation by models of a real without origin or reality"
May 28 18:37:45 <&DrBleep> cybersqyd I do not care tbh, I'm more baffled than uncomfortable
May 28 18:37:46 <@Riemann> which is to say, signs and representations without an original reference
May 28 18:38:01 <@Riemann> this is what shipping alternate oncelers essentially is - a hyperreality
May 28 18:38:24 <@Riemann> where the sign, which is in this case, the alternate oncelers, exist without reference to the original concept - the original onceler
May 28 18:38:32 <@cybersqyd> Bleep: fair; uh it mostly happened cos i got curious about a riemann quote and then they went on a big tear to explain it
May 28 18:38:48 <&DrBleep> cybersqyd sounds about right
May 28 18:38:55 <@Riemann> you told me we had two hours
May 28 18:38:58 <@cybersqyd> i did
May 28 18:38:59 <@cybersqyd> and we do
May 28 18:39:02 <@cybersqyd> or well i do
May 28 18:39:10 <@Riemann> I am actually no longer working so that I can describe this lol
May 28 18:39:12 <@cybersqyd> i'm not complaining about the big tear, just y'know, explaining it
May 28 18:39:32 <@Riemann> and to the point of the simulacra
May 28 18:39:55 <@Riemann> Baudrillard defines four steps to the reproduction of the simulacra
May 28 18:40:00 <@Riemann> (1) basic reflection of reality, (2) perversion of reality; (3) pretense of reality (where there is no model); and (4) simulacrum, which "bears no relation to any reality whatsoever"
May 28 18:40:39 <@Riemann> (1) the onceler, (2) shipping the onceler with his future self, (3) shipping the onceler with alternate oncelers, and (4) only shipping alternate oncelers together
May 28 18:41:05 <@cybersqyd> … i am impressed at how much sense this makes
May 28 18:41:23 <@Riemann> kinda freaky, isn't it
May 28 18:41:28 <@Dr_Kens> This is incredible.
May 28 18:41:45 <@cybersqyd> yes
May 28 18:41:50 <@cybersqyd> thank you for this riemann
May 28 18:41:51 <@Dr_Kens> Helen, play Despacito
May 28 18:41:53 --- cybersqyd gives voice to Riemann
May 28 18:41:54 <@Dr_Kens> .y despacito
May 28 18:41:55 <+Secretary_Helen> Dr_Kens: Luis Fonsi - Despacito ft. Daddy Yankee - length 4m42s - 44278497↑5039447↓ - 7367405814 views - LuisFonsiVEVO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQP7kiw5Fk

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:13:40 +0000

Based on the comments from Procy and Tuomey, I'm withdrawing this proposal.

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:11:23 +0000

With this new information regarding Syn communities, I am in support of Procy's ideas here.

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Mon, 12 Apr 2021 13:50:11 +0000

Backing Procy on this, for the reasons he and others have set out.

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Mon, 12 Apr 2021 01:41:06 +0000

I'm on break due to illness but it would be negligent of me not to respond in a timely manner as I'm one of the three network ops who actively engage with the rank:

Expansion of #skipirc to non-SCP channels is not something that's been ruled out. Indeed, should conditions on SynIRC continue to deteriorate, I've loose plans to invite some Syn communities to join us (certainly not across the board- a small subset of quality, non-problematic channels). And I've not sworn off the network growing in other ways (although there are currently no plans to pursue this actively), should there be an appetite for it (unlikely but not out of the question).

I am fine with #help being de-emphasized or even put on ice, but not merged with 17.

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Mon, 12 Apr 2021 00:25:28 +0000

While I mostly agree with this proposal (most every request in #help is really one for #site17), I wonder about requests that are specific to the SkipIRC network. For instance, issues with channel modes or dropping a bad registration or whatever. Could such inquiries be directed at #skipirc? Or is the official recommendation that they all go through #site17, even though not all staff members there (with modes) are actually network ops?

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Sun, 11 Apr 2021 01:57:33 +0000

I do not know how to adequately phrase “it just feels wrong to ask questions about my side chat in 17” enough for this. I figured no one would agree, and that’s chill, but I wanted to make sure at least that the fact help might be useful to some people was voiced. My shyness isn’t a great reason to heap work on staff, I have no notions about that. Everyone may be in 17, but that doesn’t mean they check it with any degree of frequency, when the majority of messages in 17 nowadays are about sandbox invites, and even those get half ignored.

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Sun, 11 Apr 2021 01:51:10 +0000

I find having a separate help channel quite useful, even if we only use it rarely. I’m pretty bad at IRC backend stuff and for some reason some folks are very good at remembering it, and usually, if I ask a question about something in there at least one person is ready to help me. I’d be much more hesitant to ask such questions in 17, even if it was to become the officially merged help chat.

I find it quite redundant. Any inquiries ever asked in #help could be easily and — in some cases — be more efficiently answered should the individual have asked in 17. Furthermore, everyone who helps out in the former is also readily available to help in 17 and, seeing that SkipIRC is run by the Chat Admins and Kufat (i.e. members of staff for the SCP Wiki), it just makes sense that #site17 be used in place of this. Currently, there are no other entities using SkipIRC that aren't somewhat interconnected with SCP, but, if that were to change sometime in the near or far future, the help channel would be easily able to be reopened. See, from what I've read, it seems the channel will just be set to +Ll #site17 2. This would limit the channel to two users; the channel +q and ChanServ, and would redirect any more users to 17. This is easily removable, and wouldn't cause any lasting issues. Additionally, I see no reason why someone would be more hesitant to ask a question in one channel or the other.

I would propose that having help redirect to avoid confusion is probably the easiest solution, but perhaps we continue to have a slightly differently named help channel for IRC over SCP questions? Especially given I find it actually easier to get an answer in Help at times over 17, which can be high traffic.

Again, I don't see why this is necessary. SkipIRC is already run by SCP Wiki Staff, so this would just be redundant.

Edit: I got the order of the cmode syntax reversed.

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Sun, 11 Apr 2021 01:25:07 +0000

Clarifying I cannot vote but offering an opinion anyway (with permission).

I find having a separate help channel quite useful, even if we only use it rarely. I’m pretty bad at IRC backend stuff and for some reason some folks are very good at remembering it, and usually if I ask a question about something in there at least one person is ready to help me. I’d be much more hesitant to ask such questions in 17, even if it was to become the officially merged help chat.

I would propose that having help redirect to avoid confusion is probably the easiest solution, but perhaps we continue to have a slightly differently named help channel for IRC over SCP questions? Especially given I find it actually easier to get an answer in Help at times over 17, which can be high traffic.

This may be biased since I probably am like, the only person on SkipIRC who uses help in any way regularly lol. It just feels like the difference between asking privately after class, or asking publicly in your very big lecture. _{Maybe i should just go to therapy though seems like less work}

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Sun, 11 Apr 2021 01:13:17 +0000

I'm a little iffy about this (when 17 gets busy, it gets busy), and I'd rather we direct more traffic to #help from not-new users rather than have IRC questions in 17. But if it's easily reversible, I guess there's no huge reason not to make the redirect.

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Sat, 10 Apr 2021 08:40:19 +0000

Sounds good to me.

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Sat, 10 Apr 2021 02:17:58 +0000

No objections. There was a person in #help before who had an issue better suited for 17, actually, so I think this is a fine idea. The former is practically dead for months on end anyways, and if the network does ever grow beyond the SCP Wiki, the channel could always just be reopened.

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Sat, 10 Apr 2021 01:34:22 +0000

I'm not sure I see much benefit here, but then I also don't see any problems with doing it. I guess i'm pretty neutral here.

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Fri, 09 Apr 2021 23:26:36 +0000

No real objection.

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Re: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Fri, 09 Apr 2021 21:34:41 +0000

No objections from me. The server's pretty limits in audience as it is right now and I don't see a need for a dedicated #help when we already direct everyone to go to #site17.

Proposal: Merge #help into #site17: Proposal: Merge #help into #site17

Fri, 09 Apr 2021 21:09:56 +0000

I'd like to merge #help into #site17. Any user /joining #help would be redirected to #site17 automatically.

Not a lot to say about this proposal. I can't think of anything that'd be on topic for #help that wouldn't also be on-topic for #site17, and it'd be one less channel for us to keep an eye on.

SuperSecretStaffChat Snippet Thread: Re: In which we start the culinary discourse. (Chicago Deep Dish is not a pizza, y'all are whack.)

Tue, 16 Mar 2021 17:13:36 +0000

Kens is finally right about something, deep dish """"""""""""pizza"""""""""""" is an abomination. Thin crust or bust!

SuperSecretStaffChat Snippet Thread: Re: In which we start the culinary discourse. (Chicago Deep Dish is not a pizza, y'all are whack.)

Mon, 15 Mar 2021 20:07:55 +0000

u r all banninated with da biggest ban of da world

SuperSecretStaffChat Snippet Thread: Re: SuperSecretStaffChat Snippet Thread

Mon, 15 Mar 2021 18:39:36 +0000

Can we tell them about coddle