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				<title>Forum Criticism Recruitment Thread Posted: Forum Criticism Recruitment Thread Posted</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2022 23:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>OriTiefling</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7454631</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>With approval from the rest of the team, I've posted a formal Forum Crit recruitment thread to the main site. You can find the thread here: <a href="https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14650221/forum-crit-recruitment-thread">https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14650221/forum-crit-recruitment-thread</a></p> 
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				<title>Update to Greenlighting Policy: Update to Greenlighting Policy</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2022 07:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>A concern was recently brought forward regarding the Greenlighting policy, notably that the current criteria for authors to bypass needing greenlights is having a page that is rated above -10 after 24 hours (effectively pulled from the criteria noted for Author Pages). Many reviewers felt that a page rated in the negatives should not be considered successful for allowing the bypassing of the greenlight requirement to use the draft forum, especially if such a page was one or two votes away from deletion range.</p> <p>As such, the greenlighting policy has been updated: <a href="https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-10629348/new-draft-forum-policies#post-4183908">https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-10629348/new-draft-forum-policies#post-4183908</a> to clarify that for the purposes of the greenlighting policy, a successful page is considered so if it is rated above 0/has a positive rating.</p> 
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				<title>Forum Rearrangement: Forum Rearrangement</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2021 00:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>After a brief discussion with relevant staff, a few changes have been made to the structure of the site forums, particularly concerning what category Announcements go into and how they are treated. These changes were primarily taken in order to reduce the number of stickied posts in the Announcements category, which was experiencing severe bloat and had risen to as many as ten posts, which drowned out all of the sticky posts and many of the non-sticky posts.</p> <p>The changes are as follows:</p> <ul> <li>The category formerly called Announcements has been renamed to <a href="http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/c-1113520/sitewide-announcements">Sitewide Announcements</a>.</li> <li>A new category has been created, titled <a href="http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/c-7409511/page-announcements">Page Announcements</a>. This category contains six threads: the announcement threads for SCPs, Tales, GoI Formats, Deletions, Page Updates and Miscellaneous Page Announcements.</li> <li>Another new category has been created, this one titled <a href="http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/c-7409512/staff-recruitment">Staff Recruitment</a>. This category is for staff teams to post recruitment threads for new Junior Staff members.</li> </ul> <p>These changes would have meant the &quot;Site Announcements and Proposals&quot; forum group would have contained eight categories, which would have been unwieldly. As such, &quot;Site Announcements and Proposals&quot; has been split into two forum groups:</p> <ol> <li>One continuing to use the original name, containing Sitewide Announcements, Page Announcements, Proposals and Policy and Introductions.</li> <li>A second titled &quot;Staff Processes&quot;, containing Staff Policy Discussions, Staff Discussion Records, Staff Recruitment and Town Halls.</li> </ol> <p>These changes are purely organizational and made to better manage the presentation of content, and make it easier to find relevant threads.</p> <p>We will likely be moved old Page Announcements out of the Archived Category and into Page Announcements, keeping the most recent versions pinned and allowing others to sink, as is currently done in the Introductions forum. This will happen over the next few days or weeks, as it is not urgent.</p> <hr /> <p>04 Mirror: <a href="http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14416714/forum-rearrangement">http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14416714/forum-rearrangement</a></p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Flights - January 2021: Forum Crit Flights - January 2021</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 07:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Noting that the announcement thread for January flights is up! <a href="https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14386755">https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14386755</a></p> <p>I would like to get two commanders/mentors for the month if possible (I can be a backup for Flight 2 if/as necessary).</p> <p>General reminder, quick info for mentors is here: <a href="http://05command.wikidot.com/butterfly-flights-reference">http://05command.wikidot.com/butterfly-flights-reference</a></p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Flights - November 2021: Re: Forum Crit Flights - November 2021</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2021 08:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Thank you very much! I've added your names to the announcement thread. :)</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Flights - November 2021: Re: Forum Crit Flights - November 2021</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2021 15:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Noting interest in flight 1!</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Flights - November 2021: Re: Forum Crit Flights - November 2021</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Coming briefly out of hiatus to note my interest in commanding Flight 2 this month.</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Flights - November 2021: Forum Crit Flights - November 2021</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2021 05:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Noting that the announcement thread for November flights is up! <a href="https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14226415/">https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14226415/</a></p> <p>I've put my name forward for Flight 2 since I should have some more time next month. I would like to get two more commanders/mentors if possible.</p> <p>General reminder, quick info for mentors is here: <a href="http://05command.wikidot.com/butterfly-flights-reference">http://05command.wikidot.com/butterfly-flights-reference</a></p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Cease-and-Desists: Re: Forum Crit Cease-and-Desists</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2021 13:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Leveritas</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1558990</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <blockquote> <p>1. How long should an author cease-and-desist last? (For comparison, a standard C&amp;D for bad feedback is lifted when the user has written a successful mainsite page. For established authors, it is after they have posted helpful feedback on mainsite discussion threads, requested staff to look over the posts, and staff consensus is to let them post forum critique again.)</p> </blockquote> <p>Agreeing with a week, but forcing someone to ''say sorry'' isn't really going to be an honest apology anyway, so I don't think it's all that effective. If someone is overly vehement (or displays a pattern of such behaviour), that sounds like an action for Disc instead.</p> <blockquote> <p>2. How should staff respond if the author ignores the C&amp;D?</p> </blockquote> <p>Agreeing with Naveil here.</p> <blockquote> <p>3. Are there any further questions/concerns to address before this becomes standard practice for Forum Crit moving forward?</p> </blockquote> <p>I can agree with some sentiments above:</p> <blockquote> <p>I believe we should also consider allowing C&amp;Ds to apply to general misuse and abuse of the forum. If certain authors are repeatedly failing to follow forum guidelines, then they should be temporarily barred from using the ideas forum. In these cases, I believe a simple weeklong C&amp;D is sufficient.</p> </blockquote> <p>It's really disruptive if someone keeps flailing, doing the wrong thing, spamming threads etc. Having said that, I'm not sure about the effectiveness of additional rules that someone repeatedly demonstrated to ignore anyway. If someone else thinks that a C&amp;D based on floundering in the forums could be effective, I won't be against it or anything, it's just that I don't think it'll be very effective.</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Cease-and-Desists: Re: Forum Crit Cease-and-Desists</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2021 23:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Naveil</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>5986482</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>1. This depends on what the C&amp;D was issued for. Preferably, the C&amp;D could be issuable for multiple reasons, not limited to being unreceptive (or downright vehement) to feedback, but also consistent breakings of forum guidelines and, in extreme cases, consistent spamming of low-quality ideas leading nowhere. Echoing Fabled, but 1 week in general and 1 week + making amends in the case of vehement pushback seems reasonable. I do think Forum Crit should be open to adjust this case-by-case though.</p> <p>2. I'm not exactly familiar with other C&amp;Ds but the precedent seems to be a revoke or a revoke + a short ban. I think the latter is more effective in this case. With that, I'd also suggest that forum C&amp;Ds be used <em>before</em> the traditional revoke we've used in the past for forum misuse. I'm not sure if we'd also like bump standard escalation up a notch if forum misuse continues after a C&amp;D, but a revoke should be fine. In my mind, it goes:</p> <p>Forum C&amp;D -&gt; C&amp;D ends -&gt; forum misuse continues -&gt; standard escalation<br /> Forum C&amp;D -&gt; C&amp;D is broken -&gt; 1 week ban -&gt; forum misuse continues -&gt; standard escalation following from 1w</p> <p>Issuing longer C&amp;Ds after the first <em>is</em> an option, but if an author doesn't learn from the first then they likely aren't going to learn from a second.</p> <p>3. I think flexibility is important. Forum crit is a tricky business and the team should be able give longer (or shorter) C&amp;Ds based on different cases, different ban lengths for breaking one (though half of that is likely Disc's territory), and so forth.</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Cease-and-Desists: Re: Forum Crit Cease-and-Desists</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2021 18:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>1. How long should an author cease-and-desist last? (For comparison, a standard C&amp;D for bad feedback is lifted when the user has written a successful mainsite page. For established authors, it is after they have posted helpful feedback on mainsite discussion threads, requested staff to look over the posts, and staff consensus is to let them post forum critique again.)</p> <p>Author C&amp;Ds should last at least a week, and then be lifted when a formal apology is issued to any reviewers to they were vehement to. A week gives them time to reflect, and the apology allows them to make amends with those they were rude to.</p> <p>2. How should staff respond if the author ignores the C&amp;D?</p> <p>Same response that other C&amp;Ds would receive. In this case, I believe that's a site ban correct? It feels like the right escalation.</p> <p>3. Are there any further questions/concerns to address before this becomes standard practice for Forum Crit moving forward?</p> <p>I believe we should also consider allowing C&amp;Ds to apply to general misuse and abuse of the forum. If certain authors are repeatedly failing to follow forum guidelines, then they should be temporarily barred from using the ideas forum. In these cases, I believe a simple weeklong C&amp;D is sufficient.</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Cease-and-Desists: Forum Crit Cease-and-Desists</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2021 18:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>After the events surrounding this case: <a href="http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-14208273/disciplinary-martyk-1">http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-14208273/disciplinary-martyk-1</a> occurred, it was requested that Forum Crit staff be able to issue cease-and-desists for authors who clearly are non-receptive to feedback, and effectively take up resources that would be better allocated to authors willing to work with reviewers to improve their material for the site community in mind.</p> <p>As context, there is existing precedent for team-based cease-and-desist actions, for site functions like tagging (if someone repeatedly tags pages incorrectly) and giving forum critique (if someone repeatedly gives problematic, misleading, and/or overly vehement feedback). I don't think these were documented straightforwardly though, since they just sort of emerged as standard practice when staff handled multiple cleanups pertaining to the same individuals.</p> <p>As this is a team-focused change, I am putting the thread in this category for now. Similar to how previous forum changes were introduced and implemented:</p> <ul> <li><a href="http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-12249918/limit-on-how-many-drafts-an-author-can-ask-for-forum-crit-on">http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-12249918/limit-on-how-many-drafts-an-author-can-ask-for-forum-crit-on</a> (post limits to prevent spam/flooding)</li> <li><a href="http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-10622425/forum-crit-policy-two-tweaks">http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-10622425/forum-crit-policy-two-tweaks</a> (greenlighting)</li> <li><a href="http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-13095778/new-ideas-critique-forum-policies">http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-13095778/new-ideas-critique-forum-policies</a> (concept forum template)</li> </ul> <p>If this needs to go to an official proposal and vote, feel free to let me know. In the meantime, I would really appreciate discussion (mostly from Forum Crit; all staff welcome to weigh in!) regarding:</p> <p>1. How long should an author cease-and-desist last? (For comparison, a standard C&amp;D for bad feedback is lifted when the user has written a successful mainsite page. For established authors, it is after they have posted helpful feedback on mainsite discussion threads, requested staff to look over the posts, and staff consensus is to let them post forum critique again.)</p> <p>2. How should staff respond if the author ignores the C&amp;D?</p> <p>3. Are there any further questions/concerns to address before this becomes standard practice for Forum Crit moving forward?</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Flights - August 2021: Re: Forum Crit Flights - August 2021</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2021 05:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Thank you! I've added your name to the thread listing for Flight 1. Please don't feel obligated to take on two mentees if you'd prefer to take one instead!</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Flights - August 2021: Re: Forum Crit Flights - August 2021</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2021 20:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Been a while, but I'd like to take a spot as commander. Either Flight is fine, though I have a slight preference for Flight 1. I'll try to take on two officers.</p> <p>Thanks!</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Flights - August 2021: Forum Crit Flights - August 2021</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2021 05:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Noting that the announcement thread for August flights is up: <a href="http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14143724">http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14143724</a></p> <p>I would like to get at least one more commander if possible, though I totally understand if people would prefer to be on vacation. d:</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Flights - July 2021: Forum Crit Flights - July 2021</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2021 05:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Noting that the announcement thread for July's flights is up: <a href="http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14120140">http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14120140</a></p> <p>I'll be taking a Flight 2 slot next month. I would like to get two more commanders if possible.</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Flights - June 2021: Forum Crit Flights - June 2021</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2021 06:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Noting that I've posted an announcement thread for the Forum Crit mentorships here: <a href="http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14082373">http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14082373</a></p> <p>So far we have one commander listed. I would like to get at least two more commanders for June.</p> <p>Thus far I am quite pleased with opening up commanderships to greenlighters in general, rather than having it be a staff-only mentorship setup!</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Flights - March 2021: Re: Forum Crit Flights - March 2021</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2021 04:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Noting that I’ve recruited <span class="printuser avatarhover"><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/vivarium" ><img class="small" src="https://www.wikidot.com/avatar.php?userid=6798022&amp;amp;size=small&amp;amp;timestamp=1696955230" alt="Vivarium" style="background-image:url(https://www.wikidot.com/userkarma.php?u=6798022)" /></a><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/vivarium" >Vivarium</a></span> for Flight 1!</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Flights - March 2021: Re: Forum Crit Flights - March 2021</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2021 20:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Zyn</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1404533</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Sounds good, thanks for volunteering! Please remember to pace yourself and let us know if you would like assistance with the Flight.</p> <p>I've added your name to Flight 1!</p> 
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				<title>Forum Crit Flights - March 2021: Re: Forum Crit Flights - March 2021</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2021 20:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Truc Linh</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>5813515</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I’d like to get back into mentoring after three long months. I hope that’s okay! Also, Flight 1 and 1 officer. I forgot about that.</p> 
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