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I see what you mean, but it doesn't feel like a coherent category in the same way as the other categories, and it can be a little tricky to recognise if you're not familiar with the tale. There is artwork that's specifically based on a tale and we could go through it again to identify that, but a lot of the time it's because a specific SCP, character or group appears in the tale so I think it would be pretty redundant with the other categories.

Re: Artwork Tagging Proposal by JerdenJerden, 19 Mar 2024 07:16

Every canon has a tag and there's no reason those can't be applied to artwork, so I don't really see any reason to have this as well - unlike SCPs, GoIs and Characters, which don't always have tags of their own.

Re: Artwork Tagging Proposal by JerdenJerden, 19 Mar 2024 07:09

Thirding perma, and enacting. PM sent. An appeal is available to the user.

IcyDragonIcyDragon appealed in #site17 today. ZynZyn, torcsandantlerstorcsandantlers, AriadnesThreadAriadnesThread, OriTieflingOriTiefling, and I (KufatKufat) voted against accepting their appeal. Logs are available to staff on request. (The appeal involved the specifics of how the entry code is hidden on the Join the Site page.)

I get that it might cross over with personnel art but it'd be nice to have a tale-art tag to go along with the scp-art and goi-art tags.

Other than that it's a good system.

Re: Artwork Tagging Proposal by Mooagain Mooagain , 19 Mar 2024 02:48

The Anti-Harassment Team was alerted to the behavior of LirynLiryn. After deliberation, we have determined that the behavior was targeted enough for a warning to be issued. No further action will be taken during this time.

Supporting a perma as this is persistent violation of the rules that clearly shows no sign of resolving in any other way.

I don’t see any issues with this, I say go for it.

I do wonder though, would it make sense to have a canon-art tag for art pieces that depict/use stuff from specific cannons? If not, please ignore, merely just a thought.

It was recently brought to staff attention that the user had been asking for critique on a draft (https://scp-sandbox-3.wikidot.com/buzz-strap-paradox) which contained multiple hallmarks of AI generation.

Of note, the latest update to this draft was March 13th, the same day that FluffyKobold was initially revoked for using AI in their article. That being said, the fact that they're still asking for crit on this draft, even without there having been changes to the article since before they were revoked, indicates a level of dishonesty to me.

That and the fact that FluffyKobold has specifically told me in IRC that the draft was not made with AI generation at all.

Written with approval from Zyn.

It was brought to staff attention that Endoh Tamada HiraEndoh Tamada Hira (account age 879 days, site membership 2 days) posted the article: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-8106, which contained multiple indicators of AI-generation.

This task must be carried out under the stringent guidance and vigilant supervision of both the Site Director and the Site Engineer, with provisions for necessary replenishment of materials as required.

Her long black hair frames an unremarkable face, but her most striking feature lies in her glowing irises. The ciliary processes within her irises exhibit an intricate, anomalous pattern, and their color shifts dynamically when she activates her abilities.

Emphasis mine on the second example, as that sentence is no longer present in the article, but can be seen in Revision 0 of the article.

Mainsite Mirror

I'm posting this on behalf of the Art Committee - we're the subteam of Community Outreach responsible for selecting the art that gets showcased on the Artwork Hub each month. We're now proposing the creation of new tags, specifically for artwork pages. We've discussed this with the Tech team, but they thought we should get broader input from staff and the community before implementing this.

Obviously this is similar to the Genre Tagging for Tales. This should serve a somewhat similar purpose for sorting and discovery, although obviously focused on the style and content of the artwork on each page. Both the Style and Content categories would be open to additions proposed in the usual way - similar to Genre and Theme tags, we'd require a minimum of 25 articles, but with no author requirement. In future these may potentially be applied to artwork on other types of page (SCPs, Tales, Hubs) but we think limiting it to artist and artwork pages is a sensible starting point.

I'll list the tags below with the proposed definition and current count for each tag, but this draft of an Artwork Tagging Guide is probably the best introduction - since it's an art guide and we have an abundance of art on the site, there are three illustrations for every tag.

Style Tags

These describe the art style used - we've avoided categories like "digital art" focused on the actual process, in favor of categories that anyone can assign based on how the art looks. The exact distinctions between sketched, cel-shaded and painted are tricky to precisely define, but I think that the typical example is recognisable enough that this shouldn't be too much of a problem. These tags are not mutually exclusive, and multiple can apply to the same page, or even to the same artwork.

animated - artwork is animated. Generally applies to .gif files. Superceded by the interactive and video content markers. (53 occurances)
cel-shaded-art - artwork with outlines drawn, then shaded using solid blocks of color or gradients. The characteristic style of animation, comic books and manga. (168 occurances)
image-editing - artwork created by altering or combining existing images. (27 occurances)
painted-art - artwork created using paint or pastel, or using digital brush strokes to blend colors and mimic the appearance of paint. (189 occurances)
pixel-art - artwork created by drawing individual pixels, or by deliberately pixelating an existing image. (67 occurances)
sketched-art - artwork drawn with pencil, pen or crayon, or created digitally in a similar style. May be shaded, or left as a line drawing. (123 occurances)

Content Tags

This describes what the art depicts, in very general terms. These tags are not mutually exclusive, and multiple can apply to the same page, or even the same artwork. GoI and Character tags can be used on Art Pages and we'll try to apply them more often, but we thought it would be useful to have some more general tags for finding artwork. While the scp-art tag admittedly applies to the majority of art pages since this is the SCP Wiki, filtering for it may make it easier to find art depicting more obscure SCPs without their own tags.

logo - artwork depicts logos and other symbolic graphics, such as insignia, flags and coats of arms. (84 occurances)
poster - artwork depicts a poster, infographic or advertisment, using a combination of images and words to convey information. (31 occurances)
goi-art - artwork depicting characters, objects, or themes from a specific Group of Interest. Also applies to GoI logos. (72 occurances)
personnel-art - artwork depicting specific SCP Foundation employees. Typically doctors and researchers, but also applies to depictions of field agents and other site staff, as well as directors and O5 Command. (83 occurances)
scp-art - artwork depicting one or more SCP objects or entities. (422 occurances)

Obviously this proposal has a lot of similarities to Genre Tagging, but there's a lot fewer art pages than tales on the Wiki, and they're much quicker to tag, so this shouldn't take as long to implement. We've put together a Google Document listing which tags apply to all artist and artwork pages - although it will be missing some posted more recently, it won't take too long to add tags to whichever pages are left. The art styles are somewhat subjective, but we don't expect it to be too difficult to decide which (if any) apply to a specific artist's work.

I'll leave this discussion open for suggestions and comments for a week, unless there are any specific objections or proposed changes we should be able to implement this pretty quickly once they're added to the tag manifest. We have a Google Sheet listing exactly which pages each tag applies to, but it's not particularly easy to navigate and I've been told not to post a Google Doc link on the forum.

Artwork Tagging Proposal by JerdenJerden, 18 Mar 2024 18:13

Declined scp_2345678scp_2345678 for name, and application that did not meet criteria:

There's a good number of rules that site members are expected to follow when interacting with the wiki, and we'll outline some of the more important rules here: Don't be a Dick. Rule Zero of the Wiki

Declined ChaosGeneralRedChaosGeneralRed for name.

Re: Username Log by ZynZyn, 18 Mar 2024 07:22

Noting that I received the following PM, with the subject line "Re: It wasnt"

Who are you? What is scp? what did I get banned for? I mean I guess it doesn't matter ,but I made this account for websites. I guess this could be for that one time my data got breeched

I have not responded. We may want to consider escalating the ban to permanent.

Re: Disciplinary - 1dumbduck by ZynZyn, 18 Mar 2024 07:05

Of note, the author originally submitted a blank page, and upon a later edit, added the entirety of the material in one go (including removing the rating module code another site member added).

They also posted the following comments:

https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-16752981/scp-8474#post-6460047 (when addressed regarding the blank page and improper title — note, the title is still incorrectly formatted as of now)

That was on me i thought i published it, it is my first time. Many of people who have written scps before had rated my scp to be like a 6/10 or 5/10 because of my english and the scp itself is a bit weird. Im so sorry i hope you can see the article now!

https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-16752981/scp-8474#post-6460045

Im so sorry for that! Ive been reading alot of scps and truly wanted to make my own one but didnt for like 3 years. Its my first time doing this and english is not my main language, for that i truly apoligise

Membership revoked, PM sent.

Re: Disciplinary - ItsFlico by ZynZyn, 17 Mar 2024 17:39

Written with approval from Zyn.

It was brought to staff attention that ItsFlicoItsFlico (account age 257 days, site membership 7 hours) posted the article: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-8474, which contained multiple indicators of AI-generation.

SCP-8474, designated as "The Lonely Traveler," is a humanoid entity of Croatian origin, born on July 19, 2007, making him approximately 16 years old as of the current date. SCP-8474 originates from Foundation Site-777, which is a hidden facility known only to higher-ranking Foundation staff. The site itself does not contain any anomalies but rather operates covertly, utilizing its structure for infiltration and intelligence gathering operations.

SCP-8474's anomalous nature has led some personnel to draw parallels with divine beings, due to his remarkable resilience and adaptability in dangerous situations. However, further investigation is required to determine the exact nature of SCP-8474's abilities and any potential connection to other anomalies.

SCP-8474's anomalous properties present unique challenges and opportunities for the Foundation's operations. Further research into the origins and limitations of SCP-8474's abilities is ongoing, with the goal of maximizing his effectiveness while minimizing potential risks to both SCP-8474 and Foundation personnel.

Disciplinary - ItsFlico by ZoobeenyZoobeeny, 17 Mar 2024 15:31

Hi…

I feel as if I've failed to communicate my idea clearly in the other thread, so I'd like to restate it here using plainer words.

I hope this helps…

Thanks 👼

Thinking about the bot army, here's how I think it should be implemented were we to pursue it:

  • 100 to 500 bots are created. These bots are clearly labelled as bot army voting sockpuppets, with usernames in some specific formula, like "BOT ARMY #1".
  • All entries to the 9k contest are to be in their own, new, independent category, which has anonymous voting enabled.
  • Shortly after posting, a random sample of 100 to 500 bots will upvote the article. This could be anywhere within this range, and dramatically inflate and alter scores.
  • It is now impossible to see the true score of any article if you are not a moderator.
  • Moderators keep an eye on true scores, recording the number of bot army upvotes on each article, in case a piece's true score hits -10. If this happens, all bot army upvotes are removed, the page is taken out of the new category, and deletion is processed as normal.
    • With the information that anonymous voting extends to moderators, this will need to be the bot army reporting its influence somewhere.
  • The same process happens at the end of the contest before moving all pages to their new slots.

This solution ensures that:

  • Votes are anonymous
  • Vote totals are obscured
  • The only bot army is publicly known and clearly labelled; bot army account names can be freely distributed
  • Leaderboards can be implemented but are not clearly known
  • At the end of the contest, all contest entries have no lasting impact and can be treated as normal

can I get some nice "no signatures on my forum"
sigma-9 css machine broke
understandable have a nice day

I consider the suggestion of a botnet overtly complex and bordering on overengineering. Not to mention that we have no oversight on the potential fallout of this, and the management of the blackbox around it. And on top of that you'd still be able to figure out which articles are in the lead, so no real solution there and just a whole lot of work.

If it is not possible at all to obscure the voting total in leaderboards, I'm against banning leaderboards. However, I can't help but feel that we should be able to have a ranking without the voting totals visible next to it.

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