ameertg
He was repeatedly disrupting chat and was given a 24 hour ban. He's @1EA82C40.8599C2CA.9922E2B.IP
Timer removed. —Eskobar
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ameertg
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» ameertg
Summary:
repeatedly disrupting chat
Posting in here and in Tox's thread.
[02:30:54] <DrYucatan> Smapti, what are your thoughts on Vampires?
[02:30:56] <Smapti> I think Heretics of Dune was a really good one.
[02:31:13] <Jabonicus> The first was great, loved it. The second was good, up until the end. I'm not a fan of telepathic babies.
[02:31:19] <BlackWing> https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/s851x315/1888747…
[02:31:22] <Slate> BlackWing: It's not easy to knock someone out with chloroform
[02:31:26] <Slate> That's ether that does that
[02:31:31] <Smapti> DrYucatan; I think they have a right to be who they are, I just don't think they should be getting married.
[02:31:37] <BlackWing> Slate: That's why you have a hammer as back up
[02:31:40] <Slate> You'd need to hold the rag to their face for upwards of 5 minutes
[02:31:50] <Smapti> Marriage is between two LIVING people, not between a man and an undead abomination.
[02:31:52] <DrYucatan> Also, correct, reading and being able to understand the Dune series should count as an introductory PoliSci credit.
[02:32:04] <Slate> Dune starts out simple
[02:32:12] <DrYucatan> Smapti: I meant in terms of different versions of Vampires, origins, powers, etc, but…okay, we'll go with that
[02:32:14] <BlackWing> and then Sting shows up in a thong
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[02:32:17] <Slate> It's when Herbert started really getting into drugs that it gets weird
[02:32:46] <Smapti> Yeah. The first 150 pages or so of Dune seem like they're part of a completely different book.
[02:32:48] <BlackWing> Drugs. That explains Sting
[02:32:49] <ameertg> Smapti, i believe that marriage is a bond between two beings (dead or alive) who share a common love for one another
[02:33:01] <DrYucatan> ameertg: What if they're siblings?
[02:33:05] <Slate> ameertg supports corpse boning
[02:33:16] <Jabonicus> I feel like the Gom Jabber was only put in the first part of Dune so it would make sense and actually seem like a quick poison near the end.
[02:33:20] <BlackWing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1MR25qSS_0
[02:33:21] <Nala> BlackWing: キノコホテル / ばら・ばら (実演会映像) by yamahamusicchannel (3 m 25 s) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1MR25qSS_0 - published Thu Apr 24, 2014 - 0.00/0.00 (0.0, +0/-0), 8 views
[02:33:26] <Smapti> Ameertg, if we let vampires get married, soon people are going to want to marry hippogriffs and drop bears.
[02:33:29] <DrYucatan> Jabonicus: Gom Jabbar
[02:33:30] <ameertg> i said common feelings of love not necrophilia
[02:33:34] <DrYucatan> Not Gom Jabber
[02:33:34] <Smapti> And down that road lies madness.
[02:33:49] <BlackWing> ameertg: So, you support Human/Zombie relations?
[02:33:50] <ameertg> if it is a corpse it cant feel love
[02:34:00] <Slate> ameertg: What if they loved you prior to death
[02:34:05] <Slate> Who decides where love ends
[02:34:05] <ameertg> BlackWing, yes i do
[02:34:11] <BlackWing> Sicko
[02:34:21] <Slate> Zombies have lost free will though
[02:34:23] <Jabonicus> I don't think someone would willingly marry a drop bear, if they existed that is
[02:34:27] <Slate> They're basically animals
[02:34:32] <Smapti> Look, all I'm saying is that I don't want zombies using the same beaches and playgrounds and schools that my family enjoys.
[02:34:33] <Slate> Jabonicus: But they do exist
[02:34:45] <Slate> Smapti: that's not an uncommon sentiment
[02:34:47] <ameertg> Slate: you are allowed to have a bond with the spirit but the body must remain untouched
[02:34:51] <Tox|Work> ameertg: can you stop being creepy, please
[02:34:55] <Bryx> I like Reg Shoe, but I wouldn't want to go home with him.
[02:35:00] <BlackWing> ameertg: So, you support ghost boning?
[02:35:08] <Slate> Ghost boning is pretty chill
[02:35:13] <Slate> Monster Girl Quest told me so
[02:35:14] <Smapti> Slate; and I'm not afraid to say it. Zombie segregation now, zombie segregation FOREVER!
[02:35:31] <Slate> Smapti: Keep them in their quarantines
[02:35:43] <ameertg> BlackWing, although i cant see how that would work yes
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[02:35:59] <Smapti> Laundry's done. I'm out.
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[02:36:20] <Bryx> DEAD YES! GONE NO! SUPPORT DEAD RI-oh, bye Smapti
[02:36:32] <ameertg> Smapti: as long as zombies do not harm others tey must have the right to live as living ones
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[02:36:48] <Jabonicus> yeah
[02:36:49] <Jabonicus> no
[02:36:51] <BlackWing> ameertg: And they can. In their own neighborhoods
[02:36:52] <Tox|Work> ameertg: How do they secure that right?
[02:36:57] <BlackWing> Away from us living folk
[02:37:02] <Jabonicus> Zombies are walking corpses
[02:37:04] <Tox|Work> What about a zombie secures a right to life?
[02:37:07] <Tox|Work> They're dead.
[02:37:17] <Tox|Work> They have no sentience, no personhood, no emotive capacity.
[02:37:25] <BlackWing> Like a redneck
[02:37:27] <ameertg> if it can feel it is alive
[02:37:29] <Jabonicus> They may or may not be carrying an array of diseases, maggots, and other things that we don't want
[02:37:36] <Tox|Work> ameertg: That's a fuckin' big assumption
[02:37:49] <Tox|Work> On what grounds do you contend that zombies can feel?
[02:38:06] <Bryx> Some insects and arthropods have no nervous system
[02:38:06] <ameertg> Tox if your definition of zombie has no emotion then no a human may not bond with it
[02:38:06] <Jabonicus> What kind of zombie are we talking here?
[02:38:10] <Bryx> They can't feel
[02:38:16] <Bryx> They must not be alive, then
[02:38:17] <Tox|Work> ameertg: I what
[02:38:25] <Slate> Zombies are dead
[02:38:35] <Tox|Work> on what grounds do you contend zombies can feel?
[02:38:42] <Tox|Work> Bryx: Logical error
[02:38:50] <Jabonicus> Being 'alive' means that your heart and body still works.
[02:38:51] <Slate> Inherent to being dead is the nonfunctioning state of integral components
[02:38:54] <Tox|Work> If P then Q does not imply "if not Q, then not P"
[02:39:01] <Slate> The central nervous system is one of these things
[02:39:14] <ameertg> if Tox's zombies hve no emotion then marriage should not be allowed
[02:39:25] <Tox|Work> ameertg: Zombies don't have emotion
[02:39:33] <Slate> ameertg: the question is what zombie could possibly feel
[02:39:37] <Slate> they're /dead/
[02:39:40] <Slate> They can't feel
[02:39:41] <ameertg> then no zombie sex
[02:39:47] <Slate> That's integral to them being zombies
[02:39:50] <Tox|Work> ameertg: stop being fucking creepy, okay
[02:39:51] <Tox|Work> just
[02:39:52] <Tox|Work> stop
[02:39:59] <Bryx> .w zombi
[02:40:00] <Nala> Bryx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombi_(band) (Zombi (band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) Zombi is a space rock duo from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, consisting of Steve Moore on bass and synthesizers and Anthony Paterra on drums. The group makes …
[02:40:06] <Bryx> Ooops
[02:40:09] <Slate> .g zambambos
[02:40:10] <Nala> Slate: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Zambambo (Urban Dictionary: Zambambo) Jun 9, 2013 … A mocking term designated for the walking dead—see Zombie. Zambambo is used to describe a particularly ineffective member or group of the …
[02:40:18] <Jabonicus> pfft
[02:40:45] <BlackWing> Guys
[02:40:51] * ameertg cuddles up with banshee
[02:40:53] <BlackWing> there's a youtube channel that's nothing but animated memes
[02:41:02] <BlackWing> That's it. Just videos of cartoonified memes
[02:41:04] <Bryx> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie
[02:41:07] <Jabonicus> It's like one of the zombie extras leaning against the gate and saying "Yo what do we do when we need to use the bathroom" instead of "RAAWRR"
[02:41:17] <Jabonicus> It's a Zambambo
[02:41:49] <ameertg> .def zamboni
[02:41:50] <Nala> ameertg: I'm sorry, but I could not find any definitions for "zamboni".
[02:42:01] <Bryx> zamboni?
[02:42:10] <Jabonicus> It's me without coffee in the morning
[02:42:10] <Bryx> the thing they clean the ice with?
[02:42:13] <Tox|Work> Bryx: that thing they drive on the ice
[02:42:16] <Tox|Work> .w zamboni
[02:42:17] <Nala> Tox|Work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboni (Zamboni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) Zamboni or The Zamboni may refer to: Zamboni machine or ice resurfacer; Zamboni Company, the maker of the Zamboni ice resurfacer; Zamboni (surname) …
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[02:42:34] <Bryx> I know. I was wondering what it had to do with zombies
[02:42:59] <Jabonicus> Obviously a zombambo zombie got stuck in a Zamboni machine
[02:43:50] <ameertg> what members of the underworld have we yet to discuss?
[02:44:14] <Jabonicus> The Thing That Should Not Be?
[02:44:31] <Echo> Zambambo
[02:44:33] <ameertg> can it feel?
[02:44:44] <Bryx> We haven't discussed actual voodoo zombies.
[02:45:07] <ameertg> they should be allowed to marry
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[02:45:21] <ameertg> their are still human beings
[02:45:27] <Gargus> Who needs friends when you have television on the internet.
[02:45:31] <Tox|Work> ameertg: Drop it.
[02:45:44] <Gargus> The answer is a lot of people.
[02:45:45] <Tox|Work> I can't speak for anyone but myself when I say this
[02:45:52] <ameertg> Tox i never mentioned intercourse
[02:45:55] <Tox|Work> but I'm starting to get a little tired of this
[02:45:57] <Jabonicus> Voodoo zombies, wait, are those dead or alive? I've heard the term for both
[02:46:03] <Slate> ameertg: We don't care
[02:46:03] <Tox|Work> ameertg: Stop being snarky.
[02:46:14] <Gargus> Is this a bad time?
[02:46:15] <Slate> We're getting tired of zombie marriage bullshit
[02:46:15] <ameertg> k
[02:46:19] <Slate> It's not funny anymore
[02:46:20] <Bryx> Actual zombies are unstable gods called down into human corpses to do the bidding of the one who summoned them. They aren't nice. they aren;t people anymore.
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[02:46:21] <Djoric> Okay, I have a question
[02:46:27] <Djoric> my new tale is not doing well
[02:46:29] <Bryx> that's the last thing i'll say
[02:46:32] <Djoric> how should I re-write it
[02:46:36] <Tox|Work> Stop going from one line of creepy conversation to another, and defending yourself by saying "I'm not saying X"
[02:46:41] <Athena_Grey> Djoric which tale?
[02:46:44] <Slate> Djoric: Better
[02:46:44] <Jabonicus> Bryx that was literally the plot of a Skulduggery Pleasant book
[02:46:48] <Soulless> Hi
[02:46:50] <velkrai> Hullo all
[02:47:01] <Gargus> Replace the main character with Don Quixote, Djoric
[02:47:05] <Bryx> Yes, I read it too.
[02:47:15] <Bryx> But that's what voodoo zombies were
[02:47:19] <Djoric> Gargus I've already got Wondertainment as the main character
[02:47:27] <Djoric> Athena_Grey: my new wondertainment one
[02:47:30] <Bryx> Speaking of, where can I get the fourth book in the US?
[02:47:34] <Gargus> Add Don Quixote as a side character.
[02:47:46] <Jabonicus> "So these asshole guys took a bunch of body parts from dead gods and stitched them together. They made Super-god"
[02:47:55] <Jabonicus> Bryx, of Skulduggery? Amazon.
[02:47:57] <ameertg> Bryx, the magic of amazon
[02:48:13] * Athena_Grey goes read
[02:48:18] <Soulless> Firstly
[02:48:19] <Jabonicus> It's literally the only place I can find those books
[02:48:34] * Soulless has kicked ameertg because If you've been called out by someone to stop a behavior, it is likely a good time to stop.
[02:48:57] * Soulless has kicked Tox|Work because You've been talked to about minimodding. If someone is being continually disruptive, contact an op.
[02:48:58] <velkrai> Woah
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[02:49:44] <Gargus> Wait I thought Tox was an op
[02:49:50] <Gargus> Did something happen when I wasn't looking?
[02:49:51] <Soulless> Gargus: No, he is not
[02:49:55] <Bryx> Someone should tell ameer that the kick isn't permanent.
[02:50:01] * Athena_Grey has only got up to halfway thru Magpie's Net
[02:50:09] <Gargus> I don't know who anyone is anymore.
[02:50:19] <Athena_Grey> hasn't they not been kicked before?
[02:50:20] <velkrai> I never did
[02:50:22] <Djoric> I'll ask again: is there anyone here who is familiar with Adventures in Capitalism and would be willing to help me brainstorm
[02:50:28] <velkrai> So your better off than me
[02:50:31] <Athena_Grey> … nevermind I misremember'd then
[02:50:39] <Deimos> Talk about counterstrike
[02:50:43] <Athena_Grey> Djoric I'm reading thru it
[02:50:47] <Athena_Grey> about halfway thru
[02:51:04] <Tox|Work> I expressly disclaimed that I was not acting in an authoritative capacity, and I was speaking in no capacity other than what anyone else can do.
[02:51:22] <Athena_Grey> so the Assistant Lady got the Boss out on a field trip and not logging their travel plan with anyone else at Wondertainment?
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[02:51:49] <Bright> Saying "I'm not an op, but" is still back seat oping.
[02:52:54] <Jabonicus> The Grotesquery was basically a god made from dead gods. It looked like a super mutant on steroids
[02:53:02] <Soulless> Tox|Work: IF you are choosing to tell someone else how to behave repeatedly instead of talking to an op who can actually issue discipline based on inappropriate behavior, you're backseat oping
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[02:53:11] <Soulless> You've been talked about this before, do not do it again
[02:53:48] <Bryx> seriously, I think ameer might be really worried now. I saw that thread on the site.
[02:54:28] <velkrai> Thread?
[02:54:29] <Jabonicus> What thread?
[02:54:30] <Soulless> I'm talking to him
[02:54:50] <velkrai> Does he think he was banned?
[02:55:03] <Bryx> http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-850506/i-am-sorry
[02:55:43] <Jabonicus> Huh.
[02:56:06] <Aelanna> .sm
[02:56:50] * Bryx is now known as BryxAway
[02:56:57] <Gargus> So
[02:57:01] <Gargus> How bout them cartoons?
[02:57:25] <velkrai> Which ones?
[02:57:36] <Gargus> Well, Attack on Titan is coming to adult swim next week.
[02:57:38] <Gargus> So there's that one.
[02:57:39] <Jabonicus> So after completing Burial At Sea 2, I am no longer afraid of Big Daddies. They are like the coolest guys.
[02:57:46] <BlackWing> Black Lagoon!
[02:57:58] <Gargus> I'm not familiar with that one.
[02:58:01] <BlackWing> Fun show
[02:58:08] <Djoric> Black Lagoon > Attack on Titan
[02:58:13] * Soulless set modes [+b] on *!*thus.spr@*.zarathustra
[02:58:14] <Gargus> (Mostly because Attack on Titan's premier is gonna be the first time I've watched adult swim in…)
[02:58:22] <velkrai> Whats black lagoon?
[02:58:25] <Jabonicus> I do feel bad for that one big daddy
[02:58:28] <Gargus> (Gad, since December, I think)
[02:58:29] * Soulless has kicked Tox|Work because this is a 24 hour, as you were told about this earlier
For context, Ameertg had been demonstrating low-levels of creep all night (/mes involving touching and hurting others, including female users—basically the same kind of shit we banned Deimos for a few days ago) and I had personally told him that the next time an op had to speak to him, he was getting a 24. English is admittedly not his first language, but he spoke with Photo for a while in PMs and the situation was explained to him carefully. He's also been going around chat and wiki both repeatedly and profusely apologizing for his behavior, for which he's been asked to stop that as well. Tox, however, has been asked not to involve himself in staff or disciplinary matters in 19 or 17 in any form many, many times; hence the 24.
Ironically, I think we were waiting on ameertg to come in voluntarily before we explained the ban and initiated it, because he was in 19 about half an hour ago asking why he was banned.
05:27 * ameertg joined #site17
05:27 ameertg hi i think you guys have a problem with bans
05:27 ameertg i was banned from 19 but i just joined like 9 hours later
05:28 ameertg btw my ban was for 24 hours
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05:29 Tox|Work ameertg: You were never actually banned from the channel, as far as I can tell.
05:29 ameertg ?
05:29 ameertg remember when soulless banned me for being gross
05:29 Tox|Work Like, it was put up that you were? But nobody ever carried it out.
05:30 Tox|Work No ban command was ever given to the channel.
05:30 ameertg so am i banned or not?
05:31 Tox|Work I'd check with someone when someone appears but gut instinct says yes
05:31 Eskobear give me a minute
05:31 Eskobear i am looking
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05:31 Tox|Work Eskobear: http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-850564
05:32 Tox|Work No +b was ever set in 19.
05:32 Eskobear yep, you are correct
05:32 Eskobear now, here's my question
05:32 Eskobear ban or no ban
05:32 ameertg so im still banned
05:32 Eskobear you literally just walked in here and said that you /know/ you were banned
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05:33 Eskobear like, you, morally speaking, knew that you shouldn't come in for 24 hours
05:33 ameertg i coulve just been using this as a way to get off my ban
05:33 Eskobear i'm looking at the place where you said that you knew that five minutes ago
05:33 Eskobear using what, coming to 17? That's all fine and good.
05:33 Eskobear Why did you go to /19/ when you knew you were banned?
05:34 Eskobear Again, IRC IP ban or no.
05:34 Eskobear It comes off as the kind of person who thinks a restraining order doesn't apply if there isn't a cop around.
05:34 ameertg it was automatic
05:34 ameertg i just turned on my client and it said you are now on 19
05:35 Eskobear Well, I applaud you for your interesting decision to put 19 on autojoin when you've only been here for two or three days. It says a lot about your confidence. That being said, I don't know what client you're on, but "/part" is pretty universal.
05:35 ameertg so should i leave?
05:36 ameertg i really dont mind
05:36 Eskobear Pretty much. You have until
05:36 Eskobear does the math
05:36 Eskobear about 3:00 AM GMT.
05:36 ameertg ok then bye
05:37 Eskobear See you then.
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As I said a few lines after that
05:38 Eskobear i mean, i see enough shit that is the functional equivalent of "i'm not touching you, i'm not touching you" where they toe the line without crossing it
05:38 Eskobear but this is "i'm literally touching you, should I not have been doing that? hey, hey, i'm touching you. why haven't you told me not to touch you"
e: ftfy —Photosynthetic
That second log is especially exasperating because, in the aforementioned PMs, we had the following conversation. I don't have logs, so I'll paraphrase:
ameertg: What's the point of a ban, if I can just get a new nickname?
me: …okay, 2 things you should know.
me: 1) I'm not going into detail, but we have ways of telling.
me: 2) That's called ban evasion. It's obnoxious and will only get your ban extended.
me: Do you understand?
ameertg: Yes.
In that context, it's pretty clear to me that he's straight-up playing dumb in that second log. It is exactly as Esk said: he gets told the rules, ignores them anyway, and then plays dumb as if that'll get him out of trouble.
If he screws up again, I'm advocating for a longer ban. If this guy is going to become a constructive member of chat, he needs to learn that this kind of fuckery has consequences.
SCP Wiki Administrator | Earth: We're all in this together.
That's some pretty flagrant disrespect for rules, there, only caring about enforceability.
Piffy is an SCP Foundation Moderator, Lv. 9001 Squishy Wizard, and Knight of the Red Pen.
If he screws up again, I'm advocating for a longer ban.
Agreed.
He came into 17 asking if he could change his nick and me and Tuomey (I think it was Tuomey at least…) basically went "pls no", so I dunno if this is some "mum said no, maybe dad will say yes" shit or what.
butts
This guy is still being an idiot
Gonna ban him if he fucks up again
14:11 Deimos What?
14:11 ameertg LOL
14:12 Excraylibur hah
14:12 ameertg DOES ANYONE LIKE ASPARAGUS?
14:12 Deimos don't shout
14:12 ameertg because I do.
14:12 Excraylibur asparagus
14:12 Excraylibur more like assparagus
14:12 ameertg Deimos: OK, I'll use my inside voice.
14:13 Deimos Crayne you and your sexual puns -_-
14:13 Tuomey ameertg: stop being a gobshite
14:13 Tuomey I realise this may be difficult, but at least make an effort
14:13 * Deimos is now known as Deimosaurus
14:13 ameertg Tuomey: Why do you hate me?
14:17 + Tuomey has given halfop to Crayne
14:18 - Echo is away (Auto away)
14:18 Deimosaurus crawls to the corner of the chatroom and huddles there in shame
14:18 Tuomey Crayne: I've gotta head out for a bit, look after the place
14:18 Kutle I can help too, Tuo! I'll make you proud c:
14:18 ameertg Tuomey: Do you have no trust in me?
14:13 ameertg Tuomey: Why do you hate me?
14:18 ameertg Tuomey: Do you have no trust in me?
If I may ask, what (if anything) did you answer to that? I ask so I'll know whether anyone has explained to him that "you're breaking the rules" is not the same as "I hate you", and that he hasn't exactly earned our trust. If you haven't, I'll tell him should I get the chance. :/
This guy is either a troll or one of the most irritatingly clueless users I've seen in months.
SCP Wiki Administrator | Earth: We're all in this together.
Eh, I think it's the latter. Hopefully they shape up. But if they don't, then we're gonna need to boot.
I didn't answer that on the basis that I've never seen anything good come from someone responding directly to one of those questions
In addition, he has been repeatedly giving poor critique in chat, with much of it being literally factually incorrect.
This is the most recent example, but there are many, many others:
<ameertg> i suggest you find out also it's not ectothermic it's exothermic
- Blaroth (~moc.5019sa.lsd.cimanyd.0D17160E-CRInys|alliztahc#moc.5019sa.lsd.cimanyd.0D17160E-CRInys|alliztahc) has left #site19
<Lyricon> No, I don't think so, ameertg.
<weizhong> Uh
<weizhong> You mean endothermic?
<weizhong> Not exothermic
<ProcyonLotor> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectotherm
<Lyricon> Yeah, no, it's ectothermic.
<ProcyonLotor> ameertg, this is like the fifth time today you have given outright incorrect advice.
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<ProcyonLotor> Stop it
<Piefish> Sorry about earlier btw ProcyonLotor
<@Photosynthetic> "Ectothermic", "exothermic", and "endothermic" are all valid English words with very specific meanings.
<Lyricon> Yeah. And I mean ectothermic.
<ProcyonLotor> Piefish, just don't do it again and you'll be good.
<ameertg> oh ok
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<@Zyn> Yo, Site 19.
- Received a CTCP TIME from ameertg
- Received a CTCP VERSION from ameertg
I had to practically interrogate him in #site19 to get some clear feedback out of him for an author.
Also this PM conversation:
14:59 ameertg You know that thing in the main guide thy we are not supposed to talk about anywhere? Has anyone ever talked about it?
15:00 Zyn Do you mean the "guide to newbies"?
15:00 ameertg Yeah
15:01 Zyn I don't believe anyone has.
15:01 Zyn Some might ask about it or mention it
15:01 Zyn But staff steps in and lets them know that they're not supposed to do that.
15:01 Zyn If people don't get the hint, they're banned from chat.
15:02 ameertg I was just curious to see if anyone had ever been dumb enough to do so
15:05 Zyn It's not so much "dumb" so much as "uninformed"
15:05 Zyn Also, that's kind of a lame thing to do.
15:05 ameertg But its so clear on the guide
15:06 Zyn Frankly, so are many things.
15:06 ameertg Unless your standard of English is not very good
15:06 ameertg then I sympathise
15:06 Zyn I've been informed that your recent behavior on the chat has been less than stellar.
15:06 ameertg 3 days and a 24 hour
15:07 ameertg I am not proud of my actions
15:09 Zyn Most of the staff are concerned that you're not listening to them or interpreting their words in the right context.
Aaaaand, ignored a direct op order from Photo.
15:20 Photosynthetic Also, ameertg, since pretty much everything you've said critique-wise has been demonstrably wrong or otherwise unhelpful, you need to hold off on the critique until you have a better idea of what we're going for.
15:20 weizhong But anyways, Sorryman54: Have ya read the guide on humanoid SCPs?
15:20 Riemann pls
15:20 Photosynthetic That's an op order. Stop it.
15:20 Riemann
15:21 Photosynthetic Similarly: Killane, don't be a dick, and don't make me make /that/ an op order too.
15:21 Sorryman54 Yes.
15:21 Killane I was just curious
15:21 EdAWACS Anyways if anyone has time would they look over my draft from before? If they want too
15:21 Sorryman54 Sorry, I was away.
15:21 Sorryman54 Yes, I have the guide. I have a log planned.
15:21 weizhong ALrighty
15:21 Sorryman54 I will make the SCP more life-like. I don't want it to be bland.
15:22 Riemann Let's see some drafts
15:22 Sorryman54 There will be interviews, hopefully.
15:22 Bennings Hey, would an alien skip that had a ray gun have the ray gun with its own designation?
15:22 Killane Sure, Ed, I've got another hour or so before I head home for the day
15:22 weizhong It's just a heads up to not stray into generic, guy/girl with an ability territory
15:22 weizhong Humanoids are difficult to write
15:22 EdAWACS http://scpsandbox2.wikidot.com/edawacsdenyy
15:22 EdAWACS It's more of a tale
15:22 EdAWACS I'm editing it
15:22 Killane which tab?
15:22 Riemann Iiiis it HR?
15:22 EdAWACS yes
15:23 Killane never mind, my feedback would be useless, I don't do tales
15:23 EdAWACS I just O just can't fin what's wrong with it (I know there are mistakes)
15:23 Bennings Still seeing a few errors, Edd.
15:23 ameertg Sorryman54, I'm afraid you've walked into expert territory. I suggest starting wth a safe non humanoid then going back to the humanoid once you've got the hang of it.
15:23 weitoobusy Be back late
15:23 weitoobusy *later
15:23 Riemann Why would the CI be freely admitting that they're, well, insurgents?
15:23 Sorryman54 Ah, well, I don't know.
15:23 weitoobusy I wouldn't discourage someone to start off with a humanoid if they want to
15:23 Sorryman54 I'm not too creative.
15:23 weitoobusy It's just a fair warning that it's difficult
15:23 Photosynthetic ameertg.
15:24 Photosynthetic What did I /just/ /say/ about feedback.
15:24 Bream If anyone's interested, I would love some feedback on my entry—ah. I'll wait till we're done with current ones!
15:24 ameertg yes?
15:24 EdAWACS I've read it over
15:24 weitoobusy Keters and humanoids are generally not tackled until someone gets a fair amount of work under their belt
15:24 Sorryman54 I am not making a keter.
15:24 weitoobusy But that's more of a challenge than discouragement
15:24 Photosynthetic Are you, or are you not, listening to me?
15:24 Killane The most difficult thing to write is a Humanoid Keter SCP what kills stuff
15:24 weitoobusy I know
15:24 ameertg But it is valid imo
15:24 Bennings Your= possessive. You're= you are
15:24 Devereaux Hey hey hey 19.
15:24 weitoobusy I'll be back
15:24 Killane Heya Devereaux
15:24 Bennings Oh hai Dev
15:24 Photosynthetic ameertg: I frankly do not care about your opinion right now.
15:24 Zyn ameertg: " expert territory" is not humanoid
15:24 Riemann Ed, there be some grammar errors.
15:24 Photosynthetic You have been giving bad feedback.
15:25 Photosynthetic You ignored a direct op order.
15:25 Photosynthetic Your opinion does not allow you to ignore op orders.
15:25 ameertg How am I to know if my feedback is good or bad until I say it
15:25 Photosynthetic I told you to quit /all/ critique until you had a better understanding — and you most certainly did not acquire one in the last five minutes.
15:25 Killane weitoobusy: the "wei" part is pronounced like "way", correct?
15:26 Photosynthetic Dude, are you arguing with me about this?
15:26 Riemann Killane: I'll answer for him, yes
15:26 Sorryman54 Whoa, whoa, hang on here. I don't want to start a fight.
15:26 ameertg was kicked by Xiao (Don't give sass to an operator who's told you to be quiet)
Ban.
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- Photosynthetic sets ban on *!*@137678A0.D9AD7AED.9E424C3B.IP
Advocating for at least a week, if not permanently.
agreed
Living the dream, or dreaming the life?
He then promptly messaged me to argue about his ban.
16:28 ameertg I'm not arguing I am just trying to develop my understanding by critiquing others
16:28 Photosynthetic You are arguing.
16:29 ameertg Btw i did not see your alwarbing
16:29 Photosynthetic You are attempting to "explain" to me why my op order is not valid.
16:29 ameertg warning*
16:29 Photosynthetic I don't buy that. I pinged you.
16:29 fluffypony.nl.eu.synirc.net Xiao invited ameertg into the channel.
16:29 ameertg no im not
16:29 Photosynthetic Can you not /hear/ yourself?!
16:29 ameertg I am not lying
16:29 Photosynthetic Now you're sassing an op over the question of whether or not you sassed an op!
16:29 ameertg I swear
16:30 ameertg I swear i did not see the message
16:30 ameertg It was just skipped because my client keeps lagging
16:31 ameertg And whats a ping?
16:31 ameertg Im new on IRCs
16:31 Photosynthetic Okay, let's presume for a moment that you did somehow miss it. That still does not excuse your sassing me when I told you to stop, /again/,
16:31 Photosynthetic .
16:31 ameertg True
16:31 ameertg I am sorry
16:32 ameertg I was just angry
16:32 Photosynthetic You have now repeatedly ignored op orders, sassed the mods, and repeatedly asked how to break the rules.
16:32 Photosynthetic I am not inclined to extend you the benefit of the doubt.
16:33 ameertg I know i made a bad start but really?
16:33 Photosynthetic In fact, you're banned from #site19 for a week. You can still contact the mods through PM, or visit us in #site17, if you need to say something.
16:33 Photosynthetic This is more than a bad start.
16:34 ameertg Seriously? After I apologise?
16:34 Photosynthetic This is three days of sustained unacceptable behavior.
16:34 Photosynthetic You've apologized before. It has not changed your behavior.
16:34 Photosynthetic Come back in a week.
16:34 ameertg It has do you see me making jokes about suicide or necrophilia?
16:35 Photosynthetic Talk to Zyn or Xiao if you want any more information.
…yeah.
Timer removed. —Eskobar
SCP Wiki Administrator | Earth: We're all in this together.
Aelanna talked to him in #site17. Ban is set firmly at one week. The guy seems pretty clueless, frankly. :|
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15:45 ameertg so
15:45 ameertg As I was saying
15:46 Zyn Hello. Do you have a question for staff?
15:46 ameertg You cannot account me for disobeying an order that I did not recieve
15:46 Aelanna ameertg
15:46 ProcyonLotor You were issued several warnings beforehand.
15:46 Photosynthetic ^
15:46 Aelanna Let me handle this.
15:46 Aelanna Please?
15:46 Zyn Talk to Aelanna, ameertg.
15:47 ameertg O
15:47 Zyn I give her the floor.
15:47 ameertg ok
15:47 Photosynthetic That last incident was the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak.
15:47 Aelanna ameertg: You cannot and will not be a helpful, constructive member of this community by behaving as you have.
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15:47 Photosynthetic Oh, sorry Ael — go ahead.
15:47 Aelanna You cannot prod and probe the rules, trying to figure out where the line is.
15:47 Aelanna That isn't being innocent or helpful, that's you bending the rules.
15:47 Aelanna It is transparent as all fuck and we're not that dumb.
15:47 Aelanna Either get a clue and stop being an asshat, or leave and do not come back.
15:47 Aelanna We are not stupid.
15:48 Aelanna If you continue to treat us as if we are, we can and will extend that ban to be permanent.
15:48 Aelanna The rules exist as loose guidelines. The ops and admins have the final say and complete power.
15:48 Aelanna If you do not get your shit together, we have nothing to talk about.
15:48 Aelanna Do you understand?
15:48 ameertg Yeah ok
15:49 ameertg But Im not trying to tug the lines, honestly
15:49 Photosynthetic You sure had me fooled. :|
15:50 ameertg Im just unsuccessfully mimicing others
15:50 Aelanna You don't learn by mimicking others, and you certainly will not make friends by doing shit the ops told you not to do.
15:50 Aelanna You learn by writing, not by teaching shit you don't understand.
15:50 Aelanna We don't want apologies or excuses.
15:50 Aelanna Take your ban like a man, and come back in one week.
15:50 ameertg Ok
15:50 Aelanna I don't want to hear any more about your shenanigans until then, is that clear?
15:50 ameertg But you said indefinite
15:50 ameertg Thats why Im arguing
15:51 ameertg Hehe ok
15:51 Photosynthetic No, I very definitely said one week.
15:51 Photosynthetic Do not lie to us.
15:51 Zyn Dude, Xiao also told you one week.
15:51 Aelanna Stop.
15:51 Aelanna Right now.
15:51 Aelanna Do you have ANYTHING to say other than to bitch or complain?
15:51 Aelanna If not, leave. Right now.
15:51 ameertg Xiao said length pending
15:51 Aelanna I am NOT going to put up with your bullshit.
15:51 Photosynthetic One. Week.
15:51 Aelanna DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
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And now he's banned from #site17 as well, after coming back with this little gem.
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17:01 ameertg Hi I have a suggestion that you might like.
17:02 ProcyonLotor And what would that be?
17:02 Zyn You're dangerously close to getting banned from here too.
17:02 Zyn Tread carefully.
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17:03 ameertg Can we make a deal? I am willing to stop all bad behavior and in return want a second chance. If I do something that you dont like I am banned permanently from chat
17:03 Aelanna No.
17:03 Photosynthetic No.
17:03 Photosynthetic That is not how it works.
17:03 Aelanna You are banned for one week. That is your opportunity to prove that you can change.
17:03 Photosynthetic You will have your second chance, seven days from now.
17:03 ameertg I promise not to argue
17:03 Zyn As Photo said before, take your ban like a man.
17:03 Aelanna You don't get to debate or work out a deal.
17:03 ameertg Ok then
17:03 Echo ameertg: We don't negotiate with terrorists.
17:03 Aelanna You have been a complete shit and you are being disciplined in accordance with your behavior.
17:03 ProcyonLotor You have been given warnings. THAT was your chance to shape up.
17:03 Aelanna Either take it like a man or get out.
17:03 Zyn ameertg: Frankly, why should we believe your promise?
17:03 Photosynthetic As Procyon said, you have had /many/ chances.
17:03 Zyn You haven't given us /any/ reason to believe you.
17:04 ameertg Echo no need to be racist
17:04 Photosynthetic …
17:04 —- Aelanna has banned *!*@A76A4DE3.F09C8F18.9922E2B.IP
17:04 Zyn …
17:04 * ameertg was kicked by Aelanna (You're done.)
SCP Wiki Administrator | Earth: We're all in this together.
PMed Aelanna, who told them to stop PMing her in no uncertain terms, and didn't comply.
I'm gonna permaban them unless ops disagree and see a reason to give them another chance. But "won't stop PMing a user when they tell them to stop, after being an enormous jackass" pretty much tells you exactly where a user stands in how they intend to deal with our community.
Nthing perma, little or no redeeming factors on this guy
Perma
Piffy is an SCP Foundation Moderator, Lv. 9001 Squishy Wizard, and Knight of the Red Pen.
He can change IPs.
Open season is up for ameertg. Any bans should be logged, since we can build the case for a K-line.
Athena_Grey PM'd me regarding ameertg asking why I hated him
14:07 Athena_Grey hi Tuomey
14:07 Tuomey Hi
14:07 Athena_Grey so ameertg pm me yesterday
14:07 Athena_Grey about the incident when you called him out
14:08 Tuomey This guy is always a barrel of laughs
14:08 Tuomey Let me guess, I hate him and I'm being unfair?
14:08 Athena_Grey I didn't mention it at the time cos it's confidential and all
14:08 Athena_Grey but after reading the O5 page I think it's worth logging
14:08 Athena_Grey basically, he was upset about your use of "Gobshite"
14:09 Athena_Grey basically 'why Tuomey hated me' and all that
14:09 Athena_Grey but I talked to him a bit, and turned out he didn't know what "Gobshite" means
14:09 Athena_Grey apparently he assumed it was something real bad
14:10 Athena_Grey like, he mellowed after I google'd up the definition
14:10 Athena_Grey and said it turns out to be less than he though
14:10 Athena_Grey *thought
14:10 Tuomey I'm not really sure how relevant this is, but is it ok with you if I post this to O5?
14:11 Athena_Grey I'd have no objection
14:11 Tuomey Great, thanks
14:11 Athena_Grey but I'm not quite sure if ameertg would be alright
14:11 Athena_Grey private conversation and all
14:12 Athena_Grey well, I guess it'd clear things up re: whether he's deliberately trolling
14:12 Athena_Grey shrugs
14:12 Athena_Grey would you require log of the conversation?
14:12 Tuomey No, just this conversation between us is fine
Showed up in 17
/whois tells me his ip is 2EBC4653.9025551.A3107175.IP
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17:37 ameertg Has my ban been lifted
17:38 ameertg ?
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17:39 ameertg Has it?
17:39 Athena_Grey hang on a sec
17:39 Athena_Grey the staff people are on the way, I think
17:39 ameertg Ok
17:40 Tuomey Your ban has not been lifted
17:40 ameertg ok bye
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17:40 Tuomey Consensus was that it will be permanent; if in one year you can persuade us that you're not going to be -
17:40 Tuomey welp
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