Disciplinary - Neko Noire

Summary:

Repeatedly provided low-content critique, violated C&D, doesn't understand site (might be underage)

Disciplinary - Neko Noire

Zyn 12 Oct 2018 03:03

Non-Disc Record here: http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-7943033/non-disc-record-neko-noire

Gist of it is that the user posted problematic feedback, was given a C&D, and violated said C&D not long after.

Additionally, they responded to the C&D PM with:

Well it does help in my eyes In my thoughts you are asking for too much what I read from your comments is you HAVE to have given a way to improve it what IF there is nothing to improve -_- I have already have had a bad day This is just stressing me out now

What do you mean I am not allowed to help people until I make a masterpiece what do you mean by that I will never make a masterpiece because No one likes my ideas

They were told that disciplinary measures would result if they continued their problematic behavior. Membership has been revoked.

Given their severe overreaction and misinterpretation of the forum guidelines and staff direction, they may also be underage.

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ETA: for the record, I sent back:

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Well it does help in my eyes

The content of the review posts you made was unhelpful. If you are unable to understand why, that indicates that you are not ready to be a forum reviewer.

In my thoughts you are asking for too much

The review forums have certain guidelines and quality expectations. If you cannot adhere to them, focus on responding to mainlisted works instead.

what I read from your comments is you HAVE to have given a way to improve it what IF there is nothing to improve -_-

Did you read my comments closely? If you don't have any suggestions on how to improve the work, tell the author specifically some things you liked and why you liked them. However, all of the concepts you reviewed positively actually were pretty problematic and more experienced reviewers had to step in to address that.

Misleading feedback can result in an author getting the wrong impression of their work, and may lead to them posting a page that is not yet ready for the mainsite, and then getting slammed with a bunch of downvotes that they don't expect. This is why we have very high standards for forum review.

I have already have had a bad day This is just stressing me out now

Then you should probably take a moment to calm down rather than lashing out at a site administrator.

What do you mean I am not allowed to help people until I make a masterpiece what do you mean by that

You don't need to make a masterpiece, you just need to post a successful mainsite page to the wiki. A page rated at +5 is considered successful because it is out of deletion range. One of the best indications that someone is familiar with the SCP wiki's writing system is that they are able to write successfully for the site.

I will never make a masterpiece because No one likes my ideas

This is an indication that it may be too early for you to start telling other people how to write their ideas. You will need to develop your own writing and reviewing skills more.

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Re: Disciplinary - Neko Noire

(account deleted) 12 Oct 2018 03:07

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Hello Neko Noire,

My name is Taylor and I am a staff member for the SCP Foundation wiki. Due to the violation of your Forum Critique Cease and Desist order, your membership on the SCP Foundation wiki has been revoked. This is not a ban and you are free to reapply in 24 hours, but we strongly recommend re-reading the Site Rules and Newbie Guide pages and re-familiarizing yourself with the behavior we expect from our members. The 05 thread regarding this decision is found here.

Thank you for your time.

taylor_itkin does not match any existing user name, SCP Foundation Wiki Site Staff

Re: Disciplinary - Neko Noire

Zyn 12 Oct 2018 14:13

Noting that per a recent forum post, they appear to be using a friend of theirs as a proxy to essentially bypass the revoke and continue to get their stuff reviewed: http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-7942955/scp:mask-of-nightmares#post-4021957

I'm a friend of Neko noire's and currently his account has been terminated. i helped him create this SCP so i'll be answering questions for him from now on.

Wait3r has a non-disc here: http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-7913228/non-disc-record-wait3r

Re: Disciplinary - Neko Noire

Zyn 12 Oct 2018 14:30

Noting that they sent me another two messages:

I think being revoked of membership was a good idea but I applied again before the 24 hours because when I can reapply I will be asleep at 11:04 pm so please accept me early I would be grateful and I will never give people feedback because I will never be good enough at that. I have good ideas for scps i just need the time to put them down. I Would like to have my membership back please

I have made myself a good scp so I just need to wait for 48 hours

I declined the application and told them that we would not allow special exceptions for them, especially since they state they're aware they're not following directions… which is the behavior that got them revoked in the first place.

Re: Disciplinary - Neko Noire

Zyn 12 Oct 2018 23:30

PMs continue.

I only broke the rules once And not on purpose i did not read your message about not responding to anyone correctly because it was worded weird so maybe instead of yelling and treating it like everyone reads the messages like the way you wrote them maybe explain what the hell i did so maybe be nicer please i am not here to start a big fight just here to explain my side of what happened like someone once said "there is always two sides two a story". And wait3r Is my friend and I am not using him as a proxy i would never do such a thing.

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I only broke the rules once

You were told to re-apply for membership in 24 hours. You proceeded to apply before that time.

And not on purpose i did not read your message about not responding to anyone correctly because it was worded weird so maybe instead of yelling and treating it like everyone reads the messages like the way you wrote them maybe explain what the hell i did

The Site Rules state, "If a staff member asks you to change your behavior, whether by Private Message, Staff post, or other means, you are expected to do so." Furthermore, the same template message is used for every user who posts recurrent problematic feedback. If you were unsure of what it meant, it is your responsibility to ask for clarification as staff expect a certain level of reading comprehension in all site members.

so maybe be nicer please i am not here to start a big fight just here to explain my side of what happened like someone once said "there is always two sides two a story".

Staff is not obligated to be nicer to users who are recurrently unable to follow rules properly. One of the expectations of having membership to the SCP wiki is that the user in question will follow the rules of the SCP Foundation Wiki.

And wait3r Is my friend and I am not using him as a proxy i would never do such a thing.

wait3r stated themselves that they were answering questions on your behalf on a thread you created.

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Re: Disciplinary - Neko Noire

Zyn 13 Oct 2018 03:01

Getting increasingly concerning.

Like I said I am not here to start a fight I just want to help everyone I want to help everyone so bad I really put a knife to my chest once because people wanted me gone I was willing to do it for them I could go further into other things I did but I don't want to start something so… what else could I say here…oh yeah how do i change my profile picture I looked everyone where I looked it up can't find it anywhere well you might not get this till tomorrow or if it is day for you where ever you live I am just going to say goodnight because I am off to bed at the time I am writing this.

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Sent back:

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Like I said I am not here to start a fight I just want to help everyone I want to help everyone so bad I really put a knife to my chest once because people wanted me gone I was willing to do it for them I could go further into other things I did but I don't want to start something so…

The SCP wiki is not responsible for providing the support you would need from a professional therapist or counselor. Behavior like this that can be construed as guilt-tripping is not an indication of good contributions to the site. If you find that your self-esteem suffers when a staff member tells you that your writing and/or behavior is problematic and needs to improve, that is something you will need to seek in-person help for.

oh yeah how do i change my profile picture I looked everyone where I looked it up can't find it anywhere

Just run a Google search. http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/forum/t-2030951/how-to-change-picture-on-profile

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Re: Disciplinary - Neko Noire

Zyn 16 Oct 2018 05:13

Re-applied to the site, accepted. Keep an eye on.