Disciplinary - Dave Mike/Jack Nickle

Summary:

Giving bad critique, doesn't get basic grammar. Sockpuppeting and ban evasion.

Dave Mike

Zyn 02 Mar 2014 06:25

User Dave Mike has recently given out some pretty useless critique:

http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-783549/a-woman-with-her-unborn-child-as-her-brain#post-1981749

You say SCP-XXXX To many times. Try referring it as the specimen orgasim… Please tell me i spelled that right. and so on just make sure it is a clinical term not monster or some other ████. So apart from that you did a really good job at making a disturbing SCP if you want to know if you're using SCP-XXXX too many times in your article is if you scroll down the page very fast. If you can count more than 5 SCP-XXXX's there is probably still alot. That or XXXX really stands out from all the words.

http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-783468/new-scp-needs-critiquing#post-1980881

The scps title needs to the SCP's actual name.

Seeing as this guy hasn’t quite grasped basic capitalization (e.g. http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-783493/leather-man ), I don’t really feel comfortable with them giving out any critique right now. I know there’s not much precedence for outright “don’t post critique ever”, but in this case, I think it might be necessary.

Re: Dave Mike

SoullessSingularity 02 Mar 2014 07:08

PM'd. Warned. I also think he is underage. If he isn't, then he acts too immaturely.

Salutations,

I am SoullessSingularity, moderator of the SCP Foundation. It has recently come to the attention of myself and others that you have been posting quite a bit. This is a good thing! However, given your lack of grammar and knowledge of the SCP Foundation itself, this results in you giving a lot of feedback that isn't necessarily useful. This PM is a warning. Please keep your criticisms both grammatically correct and effective. If you need help on what counts as effective and ineffective critique, please read our criticism policy and read the reviews of other, more experienced members. I would personally suggest that you cease providing critique on drafts and ideas until you get a better handle on both how the English language works and how it is used on the site.

If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know.

Regards,
Soulless

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Re: Dave Mike

Zyn 02 Mar 2014 07:39

I wrote a counter-critique on one of his posts earlier. His feedback included "People don't want to be scrolling through 2 hours of ████ in a article they want everything they necessarily need to know. Here is a example: SCP-XXXX Favorite food is beans. You don't need to know that." There was no mention of beans whatsoever in the article, and that self-censorship is just weird.

Good show, Soulless.

Re: Dave Mike

AdminBright 02 Mar 2014 18:12

He posted again with a fairly useless review, so, after dicussing in chat, I'm giving him a 24 hour revocation to think about what he's done.

Removed timer. —Eskobar

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Re: Dave Mike

Zyn 02 Mar 2014 18:19

Yeah. For the record, he's posted the following:

http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-784083/scp-2337:full-revision#post-1982047

The concept is pretty weird thats not a bad thing. No vote for me. Its not bad. Its not good either.

(the prior edits indicate that he's still not able to use collapsibles correctly, and he's not great at explaining how to use the standard image block)

Aelanna had to staffpost twice thrice :| on this guy. 24 hour revocation sounds right.

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Re: Dave Mike

SoullessSingularity 03 Mar 2014 04:45

I got a response in PM's.

Yes if i post on someones SCP saying "This is great love it! Upvote!" Is that ok? Or will it get me banned. Practically if i express my feelings in the discussions will i get banned.

Sent this response in return:

Please understand that I am not saying that you are not allowed to express opinions. I'm asking that you understand that when you express an opinion to a newbie as if it would be effective critique, you don't know what you're talking about. It shows, quite badly, that you don't know what you're talking about. However, a newbie can't tell when you give bad advice, and so they may take your bad advice in the same weight as someone who actually has effective critique to give. This is a problem because it actively gets in the way of a newbie's improvement. So the recommendation is that you work on understanding the site enough to provide effective critique, basically, it is encouraged you work to improve yourself right now, so that someday you may be able help others improve themselves.

You're free to comment that you like an SCP or something. That's fine. It's recommended to avoid giving feedback, however, until you have enough perspective as a member of the community to provide feedback with. I would recommend reading a few guides and essays, or reading the critiques other members do and why/how they are effective critique.

If you have any other concerns, please let me know.

Regards,
Soulless

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Re: Dave Mike

Zyn 07 Mar 2014 21:41

Posted this in someone's draft thread: http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-785364/scp-2111-need-feedback#post-1986227

This is really great! (Sorry I have been know to be a total ass kissing machine)
Listen to the other guys, they know what they're talking about, I don't.

Yeah, this doesn't really help anyone (especially considering that the draft in question wasn't "really great")…

Re: Dave Mike

ProcyonLotor 08 Mar 2014 22:48

Terrible critique continues.
Entire thread, but especially this post.
He's been revoked for this before, and it's still poor, incoherent advice.

Re: Dave Mike

Zyn 08 Mar 2014 22:49

Another instance: http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-795435/almost-done#post-1986865

[part of post snipped] Another thing. This is a perfect example of a generic cursed item which is not a good thing. Perhaps instead of killing the wearer when taken off, it makes them go insane or perhaps they grow attached to the ring and would rather die then remove it…. *Cough lord cough of cough the cough rings…. cough cough* that way the wearer finds a way to kill himself/herself instead of the ring plainly killing them.

…I'm kind of getting fed up with this. Week ban?

Edit: Ninja'd by the raccoon. Also, advocating for weeklong ban.

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Re: Dave Mike

Zyn 08 Mar 2014 23:09

…and another: http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-797661/magic-camel#post-1986911

You missed a comma at the end of this sentence: Personnel should wear thermal imaging goggles when required to enter the stable or otherwise. There are two t's and e's in committee. necessitating the use of restraints during feeding, exercise, and. I think it's better off Restraints while. I only proofread. Someone else needs to critique your article as I am not allowed.

I posted counter-critique. This is really becoming a problem, in terms of needing to clean up after this guy. At first it was tolerable because it looked like he was getting better, but now it's an active problem for people receiving bad critique from this guy.

Re: Dave Mike

TroyL 08 Mar 2014 23:25

There we no other administrators around, and since the user was being actively disruptive, I have instead pulled members of the Disciplinary Committee to concur. Dexanote and Zyn were in concurrence. A ban was decided upon, and given his previous activities, I tend to defer to Zyn on the length of this ban.

I have, therefore, revoked the user's membership and placed a block on his account. Feel free to PM with questions.

Removed timer. —Eskobar

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Re: Dave Mike

Pig_catapult 08 Mar 2014 23:28

Sign me up as another Disciplinary Comittee member concurring.

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Re: Dave Mike

thedeadlymoose 09 Mar 2014 08:38

I tend to defer to Zyn on the length of this ban.

Same here. Support whatever Zyn advocates for here — IE a week-long ban.

Re: Dave Mike

Zyn 11 Mar 2014 01:45

I'm pretty sure he came back as a sockpuppet, Jack Nickle: http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-803489/someone-gave-me-there-scp-to-recreate

Same grammar mistakes, including a post edited three times:

Dave Mike. Sadly. I have no Idea how to take screenshots.

Dave Mike is his name. Sadly. I have no Idea how to take screenshots.
I think the user is banned from the site for 7 days. Apparently he got banned because he was critiquing other peoples SCP's when he was told not to.

Dave Mike is his name. Sadly, I have no Idea how to take screenshots.
I think the user is banned from the site for 7 days. Apparently he got banned because he was critiquing other peoples SCP's when he was told not to.

Seeing as he's made substantial edits to Dave Mike's original sandbox: http://scpsandbox2.wikidot.com/dave-mike (including wiping the page blank and posting an entirely new article) and his current sandbox demonstrates the same sorta-clunky grammar: http://scpsandbox2.wikidot.com/scp-2058

I posted in the thread and let him know about the policy on sockpuppeting and ban evasion. We'll see how this goes.

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Re: Dave Mike

ProcyonLotor 11 Mar 2014 01:49

It is blatantly obvious that this is a sockpuppet. Account was created following ban, has similar username, has knowledge of ban, similar speaking pattern, and his only posts are related to that article.
I don't think there's any real gray area here. I'd suggest a serious extension of Dave Mike's ban and a revocation of the Jack Nickle account.

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Re: Dave Mike

thedeadlymoose 11 Mar 2014 01:51

Supporting all this.

Re: Dave Mike

Zyn 11 Mar 2014 02:14

Yeah, I asked some questions and he made a post: http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-803489/someone-gave-me-there-scp-to-recreate#post-1988371

Dave gave me his SCP number and told me it was in the sandbox. When I searched it up I thought it was ok to edit it from there. Then I created my own page for it and deleted his other one I mean. As for SCP-2888 he told me to check it for any grammar issues. I was the wrong person to do this but I tried my best anyway.

User in question made his account and joined the site 5 hours ago. Advocating for perma. Edit: Also, moving to Major user issues

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Re: Dave Mike

DrEverettMann 11 Mar 2014 02:25

I throw the full fury of my admin strength behind a permaban.

Re: Dave Mike

Communism will win 11 Mar 2014 02:29

This is pathetic. I am firmly against allowing anybody this unpatriotic and unsubtle on the site. Sockpuppeting is unacceptable and we should perma.

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Re: Dave Mike

ProcyonLotor 11 Mar 2014 02:39

Supporting.

Re: Dave Mike

Pig_catapult 11 Mar 2014 03:44

Supporting as member of the Disc. Committee

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Re: Dave Mike

thedeadlymoose 11 Mar 2014 03:05

(I believe) seconding as admin.

Re: Dave Mike

AdminBright 11 Mar 2014 04:38

Thirding. And dealing with.

Removed and banned.

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