[2015-08-08 12:29:18] <Roxie> i watched fantastic four yesterday
[2015-08-08 12:29:22] <Roxie> i don't know how to feel about it
[2015-08-08 12:29:42] <Bennings> .seen Weizhong
[2015-08-08 12:29:42] <Alexandra> Bennings: weizhong was last seen 4 days, 15 hours ago saying: SCP-190
[2015-08-08 12:30:11] <Ireul> Roxie: My family saw it and they liked it, apparently.
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[2015-08-08 12:30:27] <Lily> Roxie don't say anything shhhh
[2015-08-08 12:30:43] <Roxie> i uh
[2015-08-08 12:30:44] <Roxie> wait
[2015-08-08 12:30:48] <Roxie> does that just mean spoilers or
[2015-08-08 12:30:54] <Roxie> can i say that it was kind of shit
[2015-08-08 12:30:59] <Lily> That' s okay
[2015-08-08 12:31:04] <Lily> Just no spoilers :p
[2015-08-08 12:31:05] <Roxie> okay well it was pretty shit
[2015-08-08 12:31:10] <BlackWing> Blah blah movie sucks. blah blah
[2015-08-08 12:31:12] <Roxie> the bit where dumbledore dies was handled terribly
[2015-08-08 12:31:15] <BlackWing> Can we move on
[2015-08-08 12:31:18] <Lily> Pfft
[2015-08-08 12:31:39] <Roxie> BlackWing: chill, i'm not spoiling
[2015-08-08 12:31:53] <BlackWing> I don't care if you spoil or not, I'm just tired of hearing that it sucks
[2015-08-08 12:32:02] <Cimmerian> eh
[2015-08-08 12:32:20] <Cimmerian> BlackWing: Feels like you're overreacting there.
[2015-08-08 12:32:35] <Kens_Cleaning> BlackWing: Relax, this is the first time it's being talked about in chat.
[2015-08-08 12:32:59] <BlackWing> Kens_Cleaning: Yea, I know. Wasn't referring to chat alone, just voicing
[2015-08-08 12:33:23] <Kens_Cleaning> Noted.
[2015-08-08 12:33:33] <Roxie> i'm not sure how i was supposed to realise BlackWing's personal preference about what is discussed in the IRC before its first mention
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[2015-08-08 12:33:42] <Kens_Cleaning> Roxie: You're in the clear.
[2015-08-08 12:33:42] <Shqueak> I kinda wanna see it, regardless xD
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[2015-08-08 12:34:18] <BlackWing> Doom looked cool though
[2015-08-08 12:34:29] <BlackWing> Much better than the Iron Man knock off he'd be otherwise
[2015-08-08 12:34:54] <Roxie> The cast was pretty good, I'd say, and I'm glad they didn't sex Sue up and Marvel has actually had some fucking racial diversity in its films for once, and the special effects were okay I guess but it was just sort of really bland
[2015-08-08 12:35:04] <BlackWing> Fox
[2015-08-08 12:35:07] <BlackWing> It's not an MCU film
[2015-08-08 12:35:13] <Roxie> I didn't say it was.
[2015-08-08 12:35:23] <Roxie> I said it's Marvel, which is entirely true.
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[2015-08-08 12:35:51] <Roxie> I'd say Fox only if I referred to the MCU as Disney
[2015-08-08 12:36:18] <Shqueak> I generally go for things that are entertaining. Even if it's not overly great, if I leave having been entertained then I'm good with it :)
[2015-08-08 12:36:25] <BlackWing> Well, Marvel's a studio.
[2015-08-08 12:37:01] <Roxie> Yeah but I thought Marvel had input on both the Disney and Fox films
[2015-08-08 12:37:10] <BlackWing> Nope
[2015-08-08 12:37:13] <Roxie> Dang.
[2015-08-08 12:37:41] <Roxie> Well way to go Fox, you didn't sex up your lead female and had racial diversity but made a shit film
[2015-08-08 12:37:44] <BlackWing> Marvel had to sell the film rights to a lot of different companies in the 90s to avoid bankruptcy
[2015-08-08 12:38:25] <Roxie> As opposed to the MCU films that are usually pretty good albeit they remove all diversity and sex up all the women and put in probably misogynistic tropes
[2015-08-08 12:38:47] <Roxie> You're damned either way watching a superhero film
[2015-08-08 12:39:48] <BlackWing> Only character I've seen "sex up" was Black Widow. And her job involves looking sexy to manipulate her targets
[2015-08-08 12:40:05] <Roxie> that's still a misogynistic trope
[2015-08-08 12:41:04] <Shqueak> Mmm, I'd disagree. There's another character in Ultron that they did that too.
[2015-08-08 12:41:09] <Shqueak> *to
[2015-08-08 12:41:55] <Roxie> america man: hello i am buff and have a RAD SHIELD OF MY COUNTRY!!! metal guy man: yes i FLY and BLAST STUFF and am SMART. green angry dude man: RRGRSGFHFGEGHGREEG. token sexy lady character: hmmm yess my power is bending over and seductively picking up all these tic tacs i dropped one at a time
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[2015-08-08 12:42:09] <Djoric> Black Widow is just boring
[2015-08-08 12:42:09] <Djoric> she is a boring character
[2015-08-08 12:42:23] <Roxie> i mean so is iron man
[2015-08-08 12:42:27] <Roxie> boo hoo you're smart and rich
[2015-08-08 12:42:55] <BlackWing> That's Batman
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[2015-08-08 12:43:03] <Roxie> yeah and iron man
[2015-08-08 12:43:06] <Roxie> in fact
[2015-08-08 12:43:10] <Roxie> iron man isn't even "boo hoo"
[2015-08-08 12:43:19] <Roxie> there's no sobbing it's just "you're smart and rich. go save people lol"
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[2015-08-08 12:43:51] <Roxie> 90% of the issues in MCU films are caused by the heros of the MCU films fucking up.
[2015-08-08 12:43:54] <BlackWing> After nearly being killed and seeing that his lack of responsibility handed weapons over to America's enemies
[2015-08-08 12:44:10] <Roxie> that's not interesting at all
[2015-08-08 12:44:14] <Roxie> he was a dick and bad things happened
[2015-08-08 12:44:18] <Roxie> that's literally it
[2015-08-08 12:44:20] <BlackWing> Because he was a dick
[2015-08-08 12:44:36] <Roxie> that doesn't add a layer of interestingness
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[2015-08-08 12:45:22] <Roxie> i can literally think of nothing i want to see less than the same fucking spider-man origin for the 58th time about an awkward nerdy white kid being sad and then learning that with great power comes great whatever the fuck who gives a shit
[2015-08-08 12:45:39] <BlackWing> They're skipping the origin story for the MCU's Spider-Man film
[2015-08-08 12:46:14] <Roxie> that's the thing i want to see the second least
[2015-08-08 12:46:25] <BlackWing> And yes, I would like a Miles Morales film, specifically because I'm tired of seeing the third Peter Parker in fifteen years
[2015-08-08 12:46:27] <Takov> Roxie: Would an awkward nerdy black kid be better to you?
[2015-08-08 12:46:43] <Roxie> if you mean miles morales then fuck yes
[2015-08-08 12:47:04] <Takov> And that is not what I meant.
[2015-08-08 12:47:12] <BlackWing> Peter Parker, but black
[2015-08-08 12:47:31] <Roxie> i mean if we're gonna make the same character 400 times
[2015-08-08 12:47:38] <Roxie> we can at least give him racial diversity in the newest one
[2015-08-08 12:47:54] <Takov> Eh.
[2015-08-08 12:48:01] <Roxie> otherwise we're basically saying "nah nah nah this is the important spider-man. the white one"
[2015-08-08 12:48:28] <salvagebar> I like the black spiderman
[2015-08-08 12:48:31] <BlackWing> Seems lazier to take a pre-existing character and change the skin tone
[2015-08-08 12:48:36] <Takov> ^
[2015-08-08 12:48:46] <BlackWing> Need racial diversity? Just slap some fake-tan on them!
[2015-08-08 12:48:53] <Roxie> lazier than shitting out the same character exactly the same each time?
[2015-08-08 12:49:02] <BlackWing> Yep
[2015-08-08 12:49:07] <Roxie> bollocks
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[2015-08-08 12:49:09] <BlackWing> Not really
[2015-08-08 12:49:12] <Roxie> yes really
[2015-08-08 12:49:15] <Roxie> if you're saying
[2015-08-08 12:49:32] <Roxie> making peter parker black is lazier than making the exact same peter parker almost atom for fucking atom
[2015-08-08 12:49:36] <Roxie> then you're seriously mistaken
[2015-08-08 12:49:59] <BlackWing> Take Peter Parker, but make him black, would be like saying "He's black now, we're totes thinking of racial equality"
[2015-08-08 12:50:11] <Roxie> not really
[2015-08-08 12:50:22] <Roxie> and even if they were
[2015-08-08 12:50:24] <Roxie> what's the issue there?
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[2015-08-08 12:50:51] <Roxie> whats the issue with saying "hey you little black boys out there, you can be spider-man too, look, here's a spider-man that's just like you that we're putting into an actual movie"
[2015-08-08 12:51:14] <Takov> It'd come across as a change only intended for some appeal if they changed nothing but his skin color.
[2015-08-08 12:51:16] <BlackWing> But, you can only be Spider-Man if you piggy back on a white guy with the same exact name
[2015-08-08 12:51:35] <Rademacher> Diversity for the sake of diversity (especially in a situation where there's a lot of profit to be reaped) is a form of objectification.
[2015-08-08 12:51:55] <Roxie> that's not what i'm suggesting though
[2015-08-08 12:52:16] <Rademacher> I know, Roxie, but I feel like there are people who interpret the decision through that lens.
[2015-08-08 12:52:21] <Roxie> this black peter parker wouldn't be piggybacking off of anybody because he's peter parker
[2015-08-08 12:52:21] <Roxie> he's the original
[2015-08-08 12:52:27] <BlackWing> He's black now
[2015-08-08 12:52:28] <Takov> Rademacher: But Spider-Man's an object, I used to turn his pages!
[2015-08-08 12:52:42] <Rademacher> Takov You hush. :P
[2015-08-08 12:52:54] <BlackWing> Why make Peter Parker black when there's already a half-black/half-hispanic that uses the name Spider-Man?
[2015-08-08 12:52:55] <Roxie> BlackWing: and andrew garfield didnt live in the 60s
[2015-08-08 12:52:56] <Shqueak> You know that Peter Parker isn't white in all of the comics, right? Juuuuust saying.
[2015-08-08 12:52:58] <salvagebar> I rather like they took a new person who is black and made him Spiderman
[2015-08-08 12:53:15] <Takov> Why not both
[2015-08-08 12:53:19] <Roxie> BlackWing: because then you're piggybacking on a white guy.
[2015-08-08 12:53:42] <GreenWolf> What even is this discussion
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[2015-08-08 12:53:47] <Shqueak> Madness.
[2015-08-08 12:53:48] <BlackWing> Legacy Characters are not the same as "Take this character who is one race, and make them another for Diversity!"
[2015-08-08 12:53:53] <Shqueak> Utter madness.
[2015-08-08 12:53:58] <Roxie> that's not what i'm saying
[2015-08-08 12:54:02] <GreenWolf> Shqueak: kay
[2015-08-08 12:54:06] <Roxie> i'm not saying "change peter parker because diversity"
[2015-08-08 12:54:08] <Roxie> i'm saying
[2015-08-08 12:54:19] <BlackWing> We should have a white guy play Shaft?
[2015-08-08 12:54:21] <Kalinin> Oh jesus christ. The enforcement of racial purity in comic books is a thing here too, wonderful.
[2015-08-08 12:54:26] <BlackWing> Get Michael Cera!
[2015-08-08 12:54:33] <Rademacher> I think that, really, the only relevant question in discussions like this is whether or not altering X quality of a character fundamentally affects their narrative in a way that's irreconcilable with the original. In this case, I think the answer is no, it doesn't.
[2015-08-08 12:54:43] <Djoric> BlackWing: no
[2015-08-08 12:54:45] <Djoric> Get john Cena
[2015-08-08 12:54:47] <BlackWing> Djoric: I know
[2015-08-08 12:54:51] <BlackWing> EVEN BETTER!
[2015-08-08 12:54:54] <Shqueak> Peter Parker is /not always white in the comics/ so this is a pointless argument, because he's /already of multiple races/.
[2015-08-08 12:54:56] <Roxie> I'm saying "out of all the times we've cast Peter Parker, and there is no inherent reason that he has to be white, he has been white, and that might be something to do with racism in the industry"
[2015-08-08 12:54:57] <BlackWing> But wait
[2015-08-08 12:54:59] <Roxie> same thing as
[2015-08-08 12:55:02] <Djoric> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AShPSTq-tUo
[2015-08-08 12:55:02] <BlackWing> Djoric: No one could see it then
[2015-08-08 12:55:03] <Alexandra> Djoric: Wall Maria, Rose, and Sina - length 15s - 1209↑12↓ - 60,894 views - Clockwork621 on 2015.07.20
[2015-08-08 12:55:08] <Roxie> i'm not saying we should make the next doctor black just because diversity
[2015-08-08 12:55:09] <Djoric> BlackWing: good
[2015-08-08 12:55:12] <Djoric> Spiderman a lame
[2015-08-08 12:55:23] <Roxie> i'm saying it's fishy that all of the doctors have been white before and why do you think that is?
[2015-08-08 12:55:25] <BlackWing> Who said anything about Doctor Who?
[2015-08-08 12:55:29] <BlackWing> We're talking about Spider-Man
[2015-08-08 12:55:32] <Roxie> yeah
[2015-08-08 12:55:34] <Roxie> and i used an example?
[2015-08-08 12:55:36] <Takov> Kalinin: I'd rather have a new character than just changing the skin color of an existing one.
[2015-08-08 12:55:38] <Roxie> who the fuck was talking about shaft
[2015-08-08 12:55:43] <Shqueak> Am I, like, mute?
[2015-08-08 12:55:54] <Takov> Maybe
[2015-08-08 12:56:09] <Djoric> even better
[2015-08-08 12:56:09] <Djoric> he needs to turn his entire identity to wrestling
[2015-08-08 12:56:12] <BlackWing> Roxie: I was referencing a bit from a black comic when someone tweeted a photoshopped image of him in the Spider-Man suit around the time Amazing Spider-Man was being announced
[2015-08-08 12:56:16] <Djoric> Doc Ock is up to no good
[2015-08-08 12:56:18] <Djoric> and then
[2015-08-08 12:56:28] <Djoric> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz-rsqEaa_s
[2015-08-08 12:56:28] <Alexandra> Djoric: RKO Outta Nowhere - GREAT COMPILATION - length 16m9s - 18151↑458↓ - 1,591,192 views - livinns on 2014.11.22
[2015-08-08 12:56:30] <Rademacher> I hear you, Shqueak. :3
[2015-08-08 12:56:32] <Djoric> RKO OUTTA NOWHERE
[2015-08-08 12:56:52] <Shqueak> Rademacher: thank you
[2015-08-08 12:57:29] <Roxie> i'm just saying
[2015-08-08 12:57:29] <BlackWing> Crispin Glover! That's the guy's name
[2015-08-08 12:57:29] <Kalinin> "We've retconned the fuck out of these characters repeatedly and changed them in innumerable ways, including raising them from the dead on multiple occasions. But don't you dare change their race"
[2015-08-08 12:57:29] <BlackWing> Funny guy
[2015-08-08 12:57:29] <Roxie> it's like james bond
[2015-08-08 12:57:29] <Ireul> .seen tox
[2015-08-08 12:57:29] <Alexandra> Ireul: I've never seen tox
[2015-08-08 12:57:32] <Rademacher> On another note, I am 300% over how difficult it is to find creative commons love for certain things.
[2015-08-08 12:57:35] <Roxie> he doesn't HAVE to be white, we don't HAVE to cast him as white
[2015-08-08 12:57:51] <Roxie> but the fact that he repeatedly has been might be something to do with racism and not "sticking to the original works"
[2015-08-08 12:57:52] <BlackWing> Roxie: James Bond is theorized to be a code name. Having a black British guy play him could still work
[2015-08-08 12:58:01] <BlackWing> The important thing is that Bond is from the UK
[2015-08-08 12:58:10] <BlackWing> You could /never/ have a French James Bond
[2015-08-08 12:58:11] <Roxie> BlackWing: and even then he hasn't always been.
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[2015-08-08 12:58:21] <Roxie> There's been American and Australian bonds
[2015-08-08 12:58:28] <BlackWing> And they've been shit
[2015-08-08 12:58:35] <BlackWing> Who's the Australian one?
[2015-08-08 12:58:42] <Roxie> i'm not sure but i know he exists
[2015-08-08 12:58:55] <Roxie> Blackwing: "the australian one was shit. whoever he was."
[2015-08-08 12:59:09] <BlackWing> You don't even know who it was either, so we're both in the fault
[2015-08-08 12:59:51] <BlackWing> And it was George Lazenby
[2015-08-08 13:00:09] <BlackWing> The Australian James Bond was Lazenby, my comment still stands as "they've been shit"
[2015-08-08 13:00:11] <Roxie> yeah i googled it too
[2015-08-08 13:00:43] <BlackWing> There've been no American James Bond
[2015-08-08 13:00:45] <Decibelle> i think the closest theres been to a "relatable" james bond was daniel craig's, and that still bored me to heck
[2015-08-08 13:00:53] <Roxie> people piss me off though like
[2015-08-08 13:00:56] <Roxie> "he's meant to be white british"
[2015-08-08 13:01:00] <Djoric> Decibelle: except Christopher Lee
[2015-08-08 13:01:04] <Roxie> he's meant to be attractive to but nobody listens to that
[2015-08-08 13:01:07] <Djoric> Christopher Lee was actually James Bond
[2015-08-08 13:01:08] <Roxie> yeah you heard me
[2015-08-08 13:01:09] <BlackWing> Lee was the bad guy
[2015-08-08 13:01:11] <Roxie> Craig's an ugly fuck
[2015-08-08 13:01:16] <Djoric> no, like, in real life
[2015-08-08 13:01:25] <BlackWing> Figured that out after I commented
[2015-08-08 13:01:36] <Scantron> i could beat christopher lee in a fight
[2015-08-08 13:01:36] <Roxie> BlackWing: yes there have
[2015-08-08 13:01:42] <Decibelle> heh
[2015-08-08 13:01:42] <BlackWing> Roxie: Only attractive men can be James Bond?
[2015-08-08 13:01:45] <Decibelle> Roxie: yeah, i agree
[2015-08-08 13:01:48] <Scantron> i'm bigger, faster, and stronger too
[2015-08-08 13:02:06] <Roxie> Barry Nelson, blackwing
[2015-08-08 13:02:07] <Dmatix> Scantron can defeat a corpse, you heard it here first folks.
[2015-08-08 13:02:14] <Takov> Haha
[2015-08-08 13:02:15] <BlackWing> The fuck's a Barry Nelson?
[2015-08-08 13:02:20] <BlackWing> !g Barry Nelson
[2015-08-08 13:02:20] <Alexandra> BlackWing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Nelson Barry Nelson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: "Barry Nelson (April 16, 1917 – April 7, 2007) was an American actor, noted as the first actor to portray Ian Fleming's secret agent James Bond."
[2015-08-08 13:02:30] <Roxie> he was the first actor to fucking portray Bond you muppet
[2015-08-08 13:02:49] <Bennings> Anyone can defeat a corpse; the tricky thing is making sure they're a corpse in the first place.
[2015-08-08 13:03:10] <Rademacher> Blackwing: If Bond's strategy is seducing his way through anything diplomatic, being handsome is probably a good idea.
[2015-08-08 13:03:11] <Roxie> also Brosnan was American Irish
[2015-08-08 13:03:24] <salvagebar> IRISH
[2015-08-08 13:03:28] <Bennings> So basically noone here can play Bond
[2015-08-08 13:03:31] <Rademacher> I don't think Nelso was -that- unnatractive by the period's standards.
[2015-08-08 13:03:36] <Decibelle> especially not you bennings :3
[2015-08-08 13:03:39] <Roxie> by the way, for all you americans
[2015-08-08 13:03:43] <Roxie> ireland isn't part of fucking britain
[2015-08-08 13:03:46] * Rademacher oooooooh!
[2015-08-08 13:03:47] <BlackWing> Rademacher: And yet Roxie uses that same reasoning to call Black Widow's use of it as misogynistic.
[2015-08-08 13:03:49] <salvagebar> We noticed
[2015-08-08 13:03:51] <BlackWing> Roxie: Northern Ireland is
[2015-08-08 13:03:53] <Roxie> so anybody irish is not "british"
[2015-08-08 13:03:54] <salvagebar> We noticed that Roxie
[2015-08-08 13:03:56] <Roxie> no it isn't you fuck
[2015-08-08 13:04:04] <Roxie> it's part of the UK
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[2015-08-08 13:04:07] <Bennings> How many potatoes does it take to kill an Irishman? Zero.
[2015-08-08 13:04:09] <salvagebar> when you all came over to my city and ranted incessantly about John Bull
[2015-08-08 13:04:10] <Takov> Roxie: …Where are you getting this stereotype from?
[2015-08-08 13:04:15] <Decibelle> ok im not good at detecting tone, but if you are being hostile, please tone it down
[2015-08-08 13:04:18] <Decibelle> thanks
[2015-08-08 13:04:20] <salvagebar> fucking John Bull and cruel England
[2015-08-08 13:04:41] <Roxie> my bad Decibelle
[2015-08-08 13:05:01] <Roxie> like seriously do we need to get tuomey in here again to explain what the Heck ireland is
[2015-08-08 13:05:08] <Takov> What.
[2015-08-08 13:05:09] <salvagebar> Decibelle: can you play James Bond
[2015-08-08 13:05:09] <Rademacher> Blackwing, that's because Hollywood typically only mandates attractiveness in male actors when it's relative to the narrative, but mandates attractiveness in female actresses regardless of the narrative.
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[2015-08-08 13:05:32] <salvagebar> I guess no
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[2015-08-08 13:05:37] <Roxie> BlackWing: also, expectations for looks of women are so much higher than they are for men
[2015-08-08 13:05:44] <Rademacher> ^ 100% that, too.
[2015-08-08 13:06:12] <Roxie> and if you recall, i wasn't implying that james bond SHOULD always be played by a super attractive hotty mchotstuff
[2015-08-08 13:06:26] <Roxie> i was implying that he's not which destroys the "he needs to be british white because that's what the books say" argument
[2015-08-08 13:06:33] <Takov> Roxie: I can't recall a single instance of anyone confusing Irish and British people, American or not.
[2015-08-08 13:06:44] <Roxie> Takov: BlackWing did it
[2015-08-08 13:06:53] <Roxie> like mere minutes ago
[2015-08-08 13:06:54] <Bennings> I'm part Irish
[2015-08-08 13:06:56] <SoundChaser> Takov: in fairness, even the british do it occasionally
[2015-08-08 13:07:04] <SoundChaser> at least in my experience
[2015-08-08 13:07:04] <Roxie> yeah i think we probably have more issues with it
[2015-08-08 13:07:04] <BlackWing> I said that James Bond had to be British.
[2015-08-08 13:07:09] <Rademacher> Takov, it's usually more along the lines of confusion about what the UK includes.
[2015-08-08 13:07:15] <Roxie> no part of ireland is british at ALL
[2015-08-08 13:07:15] <Takov> Benning: As am I.
[2015-08-08 13:07:22] <Roxie> british refers to "great britain" or the "british isles"
[2015-08-08 13:07:31] <Roxie> neither of which is any part of ireland included in
[2015-08-08 13:07:39] <BlackWing> !g British Isles
[2015-08-08 13:07:41] <Alexandra> BlackWing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles British Isles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: "The British Isles are a group of islands off the north-western coast of continental Europe that consist of the islands of Great Britain, Ireland and over six thousand …"
[2015-08-08 13:07:50] <Roxie> i.e even if scotland had gone independent it would still be part of britain, but not part of the UK
[2015-08-08 13:07:52] <GreenWolf> .g tv tropes britain vs the uk
[2015-08-08 13:07:52] <Alexandra> GreenWolf: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BritainVersusTheUK Britain Versus the UK / Useful Notes - TV Tropes: "A page for describing UsefulNotes: Britain Versus the UK. England…Britain… Great Britain…The UK…The United Kingdom…The United Kingdom of Great …"
[2015-08-08 13:07:56] <BlackWing> Seems that Ireland is part of the British Isles
[2015-08-08 13:08:05] <GreenWolf> TV TROPES CAN HELP
[2015-08-08 13:08:09] <Roxie> BlackWing: either way, what you said was wrong
[2015-08-08 13:08:16] <BlackWing> Because you disagree with it
[2015-08-08 13:08:19] <Roxie> no
[2015-08-08 13:08:25] <SoundChaser> GreenWolf: no-one ever said that before
[2015-08-08 13:08:27] <Roxie> you said "northern ireland is" implying that the rest isnt
[2015-08-08 13:08:33] <Roxie> but by that wikipedia entry, you are wrong
[2015-08-08 13:08:40] <BlackWing> You're calling me out on a technicallity
[2015-08-08 13:08:43] <GreenWolf> Ireland is an island in the north atlantic, and also the republic of the same name on that island
[2015-08-08 13:08:53] <BlackWing> Roxie: Are you from the UK?
[2015-08-08 13:08:57] <Roxie> i am
[2015-08-08 13:09:08] <Takov> BlackWing: Well, you can be wrong on a technicality :P
[2015-08-08 13:09:10] <GreenWolf> Britain is the island east of ireland, where scotland, wales, and England are located
[2015-08-08 13:09:14] <BlackWing> Takov: I'm aware
[2015-08-08 13:09:15] <Shqueak> :|
[2015-08-08 13:09:16] <Roxie> over here we say "Great Britain and Ireland"
[2015-08-08 13:09:25] <GreenWolf> the UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
[2015-08-08 13:09:27] <Roxie> maybe we're wrong in doing so
[2015-08-08 13:09:39] <BlackWing> GreenWolf: Great Britain, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland
[2015-08-08 13:09:42] <GreenWolf> Northern Ireland is part of the UK, but not Great Britain
[2015-08-08 13:09:45] <Shqueak> Great Britain - everything that is not northern Ireland and the republic of Ireland.
[2015-08-08 13:09:54] <Roxie> but if we're not, it wouldn't be the first time wikipedia has fucked up designations of parts of Britain/Ireland
[2015-08-08 13:09:57] <GreenWolf> BlackWing: no
[2015-08-08 13:09:59] <GreenWolf> no no no
[2015-08-08 13:10:04] <Shqueak> Blackwing, you are wrong.
[2015-08-08 13:10:06] <BlackWing> I've seen it said with all four
[2015-08-08 13:10:08] <Shqueak> Very, very wrong.
[2015-08-08 13:10:13] <GreenWolf> Great Britain is not the same as england
[2015-08-08 13:10:19] <SoundChaser> Blackwing: britai is scotland, england and wales
[2015-08-08 13:10:24] <Roxie> great britain is the island england is part of
[2015-08-08 13:10:28] <GreenWolf> Great Britain is the entire island
[2015-08-08 13:10:29] <SoundChaser> the island itself
[2015-08-08 13:10:35] <BlackWing> Could have sworn that I've seen it with all four
[2015-08-08 13:10:42] <Roxie> you might've
[2015-08-08 13:10:42] <Shqueak> And then the UK includes northern Ireland.
[2015-08-08 13:10:45] <Roxie> but whoever said it was wrong
[2015-08-08 13:10:51] <Shqueak> And that is how it is.
[2015-08-08 13:11:07] <GreenWolf> Okay, guys, do I need to break out sets here?
[2015-08-08 13:11:13] <GreenWolf> *set diagrams
[2015-08-08 13:11:16] <Roxie> Great Britain = mainland Wales, Scotland and England
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[2015-08-08 13:11:22] <Shqueak> LILY SAVE ME
[2015-08-08 13:11:23] <Rademacher> Discussion level: Venn diagram.
[2015-08-08 13:11:26] <salvagebar> GreenWolf: Yes
[2015-08-08 13:11:30] <salvagebar> VENN DIAGRAMS ALSO PLEASE
[2015-08-08 13:11:33] <BlackWing> I must have mixed memories
[2015-08-08 13:11:35] <BlackWing> Oh well
[2015-08-08 13:11:39] <salvagebar> Venn diagrams make me warm inside
[2015-08-08 13:11:40] <Shqueak> I'm good, I live in Scotland soooooo
[2015-08-08 13:11:45] <BlackWing> !y CGP Grey Great Britain vs UK
[2015-08-08 13:11:45] <Alexandra> BlackWing: The Difference between the United Kingdom, Great Britain and England Explained - length 5m15s - 91789↑1808↓ - 7,624,965 views - CGP Grey on 2011.01.30 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10
[2015-08-08 13:11:46] <Roxie> from what i was taught, islands such as Scottish islands and the Isle of Mann are british isles, but not ireland, but perhaps that's wrong
[2015-08-08 13:11:49] <Takov> Can't we just agree that recent superhero movies are boring? :|
[2015-08-08 13:11:57] <TheDuckman> Any man was awesome.
[2015-08-08 13:11:59] <BlackWing> Takov: No
[2015-08-08 13:12:00] <TheDuckman> Ant
[2015-08-08 13:12:04] <BlackWing> Ant-Man was not boring
[2015-08-08 13:12:04] <salvagebar> Someday your nation will be its own kingdom again, Shqueak - someday
[2015-08-08 13:12:17] <BlackWing> Shqueak: Scotch or Ire?
[2015-08-08 13:12:19] <Roxie> gotta love the way Age of Ultron fucked up literally every character ever
[2015-08-08 13:12:25] <GreenWolf> salvagebar: blargh, I hope not
[2015-08-08 13:12:33] <salvagebar> someday
[2015-08-08 13:12:34] <TheDuckman> I hear F4 was horrid…but Antman was amazing. especially the fight between him and falcon.
[2015-08-08 13:12:37] <Shqueak> BlackWing: what?
[2015-08-08 13:12:38] <GreenWolf> nationalism is bad, yo
[2015-08-08 13:12:42] <BlackWing> Roxie: They have to write a decent Civil War film
[2015-08-08 13:12:43] <Live2Away> ant man was awesome
[2015-08-08 13:12:44] <salvagebar> .gis Scottish flag saltire
[2015-08-08 13:12:45] <Alexandra> salvagebar: http://www.highlandscot.net/images/sticker_saltire.gif
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[2015-08-08 13:12:55] <SoundChaser> GreenWolf: don't worry, we'll just frack them off into the north sea if all else fails
[2015-08-08 13:12:57] <Roxie> they fucking ruined the twins in AOU
[2015-08-08 13:12:58] <TheDuckman> Enh. Ultrons biggest problem was no Falcon in fighting the city IN THE AIR
[2015-08-08 13:13:00] <BlackWing> Shqueak: Scotland or Ireland as your "nationwill be it's own kingdom again"
[2015-08-08 13:13:00] <salvagebar> .g Scotland national anthem
[2015-08-08 13:13:01] <Alexandra> salvagebar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_anthem_of_Scotland National anthem of Scotland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: "There is no official national anthem of Scotland. However, a number of songs are used as unofficial Scottish anthems, most notably "Scotland the Brave", "Flower …"
[2015-08-08 13:13:14] <Shqueak> I live in /Scotland/. As I said.
[2015-08-08 13:13:19] <BlackWing> I missed that
[2015-08-08 13:13:30] * salvagebar raises the saltire.
[2015-08-08 13:13:34] * salvagebar whistles.
[2015-08-08 13:13:35] <Lily> Hey 19
[2015-08-08 13:13:36] <GreenWolf> Also, the chances of Ireland being a kingdom again are about nil
[2015-08-08 13:13:37] <BlackWing> We have, like five different conversations at the moment
[2015-08-08 13:13:40] <GreenWolf> since it is a republic now
[2015-08-08 13:13:42] <Lily> Scotland is amazing
[2015-08-08 13:13:44] <Lily> That is all
[2015-08-08 13:13:45] <GreenWolf> sa
[2015-08-08 13:13:48] <salvagebar> ty Lily
[2015-08-08 13:13:49] <salvagebar> ty
[2015-08-08 13:13:50] <Roxie> remember how in the comics Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were jewish and rromani?
[2015-08-08 13:13:50] <GreenWolf> opps
[2015-08-08 13:13:51] <BlackWing> GreenWolf: Just needs someone to set themselves up at King
[2015-08-08 13:13:52] <Live2Away> Scotland is pretty cool
[2015-08-08 13:13:55] * TheDuckman shuffles aside all the scottish jokes he's learned in 18 some years at renaissance faire.
[2015-08-08 13:14:03] <Kalinin> .lc
[2015-08-08 13:14:05] <Alexandra> Kalinin: SCP-2962(Rating:-3) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2962 - SCP-2720(Rating:-15) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2720 - SCP-2134(Rating:15) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2134
[2015-08-08 13:14:07] <Roxie> and the children of a holocaust survivor?
[2015-08-08 13:14:08] <Lily> TheDuckman: nah pls tell them
[2015-08-08 13:14:11] <BlackWing> Roxie: And Falcon lived on a tropical island and had a bird side-kick
[2015-08-08 13:14:19] <Shqueak> TheDuckman: there are many Scottish jokes, I wanna hear xD
[2015-08-08 13:14:22] <BlackWing> And didn't have to share film rights with a rival company
[2015-08-08 13:14:27] <TheDuckman> Roxie: Well, they couldn;t very well be related to magneto in a world without him.
[2015-08-08 13:14:34] <Roxie> remember how AOU put them sympathizing with Marvel's equivalents to the nazis?
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[2015-08-08 13:14:43] <BlackWing> Neo-Facists
[2015-08-08 13:14:48] <BlackWing> There's a slight difference
[2015-08-08 13:14:50] <Roxie> TheDuckman: you know that Magneto is not the only holocaust survivor, right?
[2015-08-08 13:14:54] <TheDuckman> Except, y'know, those characters weren't.
[2015-08-08 13:15:04] <TheDuckman> They altered the characters. Sometimes, it happens.
[2015-08-08 13:15:04] <BlackWing> And Rogers himself pointed out how they're similar to himself
[2015-08-08 13:15:13] <Roxie> by sometimes
[2015-08-08 13:15:16] <Roxie> you mean
[2015-08-08 13:15:17] <Takov> TheDuckman: "Sometimes"?
[2015-08-08 13:15:21] <BlackWing> The Twins and himself both volunteered to be guinea pigs to a German scientists for the sake of their country
[2015-08-08 13:15:25] <Roxie> it happens to minorities
[2015-08-08 13:15:30] <TheDuckman> Yes, in marvel, sometimes. Compared to the ALL the time in dc.
[2015-08-08 13:15:45] <Roxie> and i'm not saying it doesn't happened to EVERY character, it just sure as fuck happens more to minorities in the MCU
[2015-08-08 13:16:15] <GreenWolf> The MCU is the one that cast Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury
[2015-08-08 13:16:22] <TheDuckman> I love marvel cause they go 'Hey, you know thise character? No? Let me show you why they're awesome.' And dc is 'Hey, you know this character? No? Then we can do whatever we want with him!"
[2015-08-08 13:16:25] <Roxie> yeah, which is amazing
[2015-08-08 13:16:57] <BlackWing> DC made Deadshot into Will Smith
[2015-08-08 13:17:16] <BlackWing> Stupidest looking thing is his armor
[2015-08-08 13:17:25] <Roxie> The MCU also ripped the twins of their identities and made them sympathize with people who worked with nazis, it removed a disabled character's disability, and it decided to include the tree instead of the lesbian couple in Guardians of the Galaxy.
[2015-08-08 13:17:39] <BlackWing> Groot is awesome
[2015-08-08 13:17:45] <Roxie> so are lesbians
[2015-08-08 13:17:51] <Roxie> more so, i'd argue
[2015-08-08 13:18:00] <Dmatix> Yeah… you're probably not going to earn much sympathy asking to replace Groot with… anything.
[2015-08-08 13:18:13] <Djoric> Groot is immutable
[2015-08-08 13:18:16] <Djoric> Groot is all
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[2015-08-08 13:18:23] <Djoric> and we are all Groot
[2015-08-08 13:18:24] <TheDuckman> "I am groot. And I am grootsexual"
[2015-08-08 13:18:29] <Roxie> i'm just saying that they had a talking tree instead of maybe including a gay character in the MCU for once
[2015-08-08 13:18:30] <Dmatix> He is Groot, after all.
[2015-08-08 13:18:32] <Dmatix> He is Groot.
[2015-08-08 13:18:41] <Lily> What on earth is grootsexual
[2015-08-08 13:18:47] <Djoric> groot = groot
[2015-08-08 13:18:49] <Lily> That sounds weird
[2015-08-08 13:18:50] <BlackWing> Lily: When you love Groot
[2015-08-08 13:18:51] <Roxie> your face
[2015-08-08 13:18:59] <Djoric> the basis upon which all reality
[2015-08-08 13:19:01] <Djoric> is formed
[2015-08-08 13:19:02] <Metaphysician> https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11141160_884486771601036_1384820345344798801_n.jpg?oh=cccd0b54f03aa0ba78a1fad7f3b84207&oe=56427616
[2015-08-08 13:19:03] <Dmatix> Sometimes, I'd rather have an awesome character than worry about representation.
[2015-08-08 13:19:04] <Takov> Roxie: Sounds kinky.
[2015-08-08 13:19:07] <Lily> Ah okay
[2015-08-08 13:19:33] <GreenWolf> Dmatix: this, so much
[2015-08-08 13:19:36] <Roxie> Dmatix: as a lesbian, i think i should call the shots on what's more important "awesome lesbians" or "no representation"
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[2015-08-08 13:19:54] <Dmatix> If you asked me if I preferred a Jewish character or Groot… I'd still go with Groot.
[2015-08-08 13:19:58] <Roxie> like, what you're doing is implying that the lesbians weren't awesome
[2015-08-08 13:20:01] <BlackWing> Roxie: I'd rather have the fun dynamic of a talking racoon and tree than a character whose whole character is "lesbians"
[2015-08-08 13:20:10] <Metaphysician> I am so confused about what people are talking about now…
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[2015-08-08 13:20:16] <Roxie> BlackWing: did i say that, though?
[2015-08-08 13:20:17] <Djoric> Metaphysician: superhero stuff
[2015-08-08 13:20:18] <Dmatix> I'm implying that Groot is awesome, and I wouldn't want him replaced with anything.
[2015-08-08 13:20:21] <Metaphysician> Ahhhh
[2015-08-08 13:20:23] <BlackWing> Roxie: You aren't using their names
[2015-08-08 13:20:31] <Dmatix> I honestly don't really care about any possible replacement.
[2015-08-08 13:20:34] <Metaphysician> Like, I knew Groot, but was confused about everything else;p
[2015-08-08 13:20:38] <BlackWing> You're just going "the lesbians" the whole time without really selling the characters
[2015-08-08 13:20:39] <Dmatix> I have the character I want already, that's that.
[2015-08-08 13:20:41] <Shqueak> Metaphysician: it's best to just walk away slowly. It's madness. Escape while you still can!
[2015-08-08 13:20:50] <Djoric> Dmatix: what if, instead of groot
[2015-08-08 13:20:54] <Djoric> there were TWO GROOTS
[2015-08-08 13:20:55] * Metaphysician ejects.
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[2015-08-08 13:21:09] <Dmatix> I dunno, two Groots might be too much.
[2015-08-08 13:21:10] <Roxie> BlackWing: moondragon was one, right?
[2015-08-08 13:21:15] <Ireul> The stars would weep
[2015-08-08 13:21:17] <Djoric> this is true
[2015-08-08 13:21:18] <Roxie> and anyways, saying that i don't know there names is an argument is shitty
[2015-08-08 13:21:19] <BlackWing> You don't even know?
[2015-08-08 13:21:20] <Dmatix> Groot is singular, that's the best thing about him.
[2015-08-08 13:21:22] <Djoric> three groots is right out
[2015-08-08 13:21:23] <Shqueak> You are safe now.
[2015-08-08 13:21:25] <Roxie> the only reason i know groot's name is because of the fucking films
[2015-08-08 13:21:29] <Djoric> yes
[2015-08-08 13:21:31] <Djoric> yes this is true
[2015-08-08 13:21:32] <BlackWing> And?
[2015-08-08 13:21:41] <Roxie> "oh yeah nobody knows who they even are" yeah because marvel didn't make a fucking film about them
[2015-08-08 13:21:42] <Roxie> and what?
[2015-08-08 13:21:44] <Dmatix> The only reason I know any of the Guardian's names is that they were in the movie.
[2015-08-08 13:21:44] <Roxie> i for one
[2015-08-08 13:21:50] <Djoric> ^^
[2015-08-08 13:21:51] <Roxie> think that groot is just a fucking talking tree trope
[2015-08-08 13:21:56] <Roxie> and has literally no character displayed in the films
[2015-08-08 13:21:58] <Dmatix> That's really not an excuse for anything.
[2015-08-08 13:22:08] <BlackWing> There was plenty of Character shown in Groot
[2015-08-08 13:22:12] <Dmatix> The whole thing about the whole cast of Guardians is that they'er a bunch of total unknowns.
[2015-08-08 13:22:13] <Shqueak> Okay, the tone seems to be getting preeeeeetty hostile again.
[2015-08-08 13:22:15] <Roxie> compared with the two female characters who could've been totally fucking badass and then hooked up!
[2015-08-08 13:22:18] <Shqueak> But maybe that's just me.
[2015-08-08 13:22:22] <BlackWing> He was kind and caring and vicious at the same time
[2015-08-08 13:22:33] <Roxie> he was the iron giant.
[2015-08-08 13:22:36] <Dmatix> I mean, if you wanted to replace Gammora with those two, fine.
[2015-08-08 13:22:37] <Roxie> right down to his voice actor.
[2015-08-08 13:22:43] <Dmatix> I didn't care much for her.
[2015-08-08 13:22:44] <BlackWing> Not really
[2015-08-08 13:22:50] <Roxie> dmatix: wait wait wait, so you think there'd eb too many women otherwise?
[2015-08-08 13:22:59] <Dmatix> But Groot was awesome, so I don't care otherwise.
[2015-08-08 13:23:01] <GreenWolf> no one said that
[2015-08-08 13:23:08] <Dmatix> No, Gamorra was just a weak charater.
[2015-08-08 13:23:10] <Roxie> that's what it sounded like
[2015-08-08 13:23:11] <Takov> Roxie: Now you're strawmanning.
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[2015-08-08 13:23:18] <Roxie> weaker than the tree?
[2015-08-08 13:23:21] <Shqueak> Okay, this is getting ridiculous.
[2015-08-08 13:23:24] <GreenWolf> you are being hostile, attacking people, accusing people of using fallacies, and putting words in their mouths
[2015-08-08 13:23:25] <Dmatix> And yeah, that's a very weak attempt at strawmanning.
[2015-08-08 13:23:35] <Dmatix> And yes, far weaker.
[2015-08-08 13:23:42] <Roxie> because the film didn't give her enough to do
[2015-08-08 13:23:47] <GreenWolf> ops, pls help
[2015-08-08 13:23:48] <Dmatix> So? Is that my fault?
[2015-08-08 13:23:52] <Roxie> because the MCU, as previously stated, is shitty at representation
[2015-08-08 13:23:55] <Shqueak> Yes pleeeeease.
[2015-08-08 13:23:58] <Dmatix> Or is it the film makers?
[2015-08-08 13:24:00] <BlackWing> She kickstarted the whole fucking plot
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[2015-08-08 13:24:11] <Roxie> BlackWing: so either she's weak or she's not which is it
[2015-08-08 13:24:20] <Dmatix> She was the least memorable part of the movie.
[2015-08-08 13:24:29] <Dmatix> Nebula was better.
[2015-08-08 13:24:33] <BlackWing> I don't believe she is weak nor did I ever say she was weak
[2015-08-08 13:24:34] <Roxie> i can't even remember who the villain was
[2015-08-08 13:24:39] <BlackWing> And Nebula was played by Karen Gillan
[2015-08-08 13:24:44] <BlackWing> The blue one with the robot arm
[2015-08-08 13:24:46] <BlackWing> :|
[2015-08-08 13:24:49] <Dmatix> Nebula was cool.
[2015-08-08 13:24:58] <Djoric> good character design
[2015-08-08 13:24:59] <Roxie> blackwing: no i meant the villain in general
[2015-08-08 13:25:05] <BlackWing> Ronan
[2015-08-08 13:25:10] <BlackWing> Played by the Elf King himself
[2015-08-08 13:25:13] <Dmatix> Ronan was as meh as Gommora.
[2015-08-08 13:25:17] <Roxie> i can't even visualize that in my head
[2015-08-08 13:25:24] <Dmatix> A boring villain.
[2015-08-08 13:25:28] <BlackWing> Ronan was The Dragon of the Film trying to be Big Bad
[2015-08-08 13:25:35] <BlackWing> Roxie: He was the guy with the hammer
[2015-08-08 13:25:35] <Djoric> concurred on that
[2015-08-08 13:25:42] <Roxie> thor
[2015-08-08 13:25:43] <Dmatix> Yep. Thanos was obviously the actual threat.
[2015-08-08 13:25:51] <BlackWing> Roxie: You're not even trying
[2015-08-08 13:25:54] <Djoric> the best parts of the movie were the stuff least involved with the MCU overstory
[2015-08-08 13:25:58] <Roxie> wait wait wait
[2015-08-08 13:26:01] <Roxie> you mean the joker?
[2015-08-08 13:26:10] <Takov> You're just trolling at this point.
[2015-08-08 13:26:11] <GreenWolf> :-
[2015-08-08 13:26:11] <Djoric> ie, Rocket + groot + OOGA CHAKA
[2015-08-08 13:26:13] <BlackWing> Thanos setting up the Stones being in the right places to do the most damage
[2015-08-08 13:26:15] <GreenWolf> *:/
[2015-08-08 13:26:26] <Shqueak> This is /beyond/ ridiculous.
[2015-08-08 13:26:35] <Roxie> i'm just saying
[2015-08-08 13:26:36] <GreenWolf> ops
[2015-08-08 13:26:36] <Freudian> .sea personnel
[2015-08-08 13:26:37] <Shqueak> I wish procy was here :c
[2015-08-08 13:26:38] <Alexandra> Freudian: Special Personnel Requirements(SCP-231, Rating:732), Agent Spoon's Personnel Request(Rating:3), Foundation Rhymes - A Collection of Children's Rhymes With an SCP Personnel Twist(Rating:28), With 2 more matches.
[2015-08-08 13:26:39] <GreenWolf> help help help
[2015-08-08 13:26:59] <BlackWing> Infinity War is in three years, yes?
[2015-08-08 13:27:04] <BlackWing> And we're two stones away
[2015-08-08 13:27:11] <Shqueak> Or that Alex wasn't a bot.
[2015-08-08 13:27:18] <Dmatix> The new Captain America seems interesting.
[2015-08-08 13:27:20] <Freudian> two stones with one bird
[2015-08-08 13:27:24] <Roxie> what i meant before was that it was inappropriate to rip part of the twins' identities from them
[2015-08-08 13:27:29] <Djoric> Civil War is a storyline I am really mixed on
[2015-08-08 13:27:31] <BlackWing> Yea, Time and Soul are left
[2015-08-08 13:27:40] <Djoric> but I side with Cap on the registration matter
[2015-08-08 13:27:46] <Djoric> and Ant-Man is on cap's side
[2015-08-08 13:27:48] <Djoric> so all is well
[2015-08-08 13:27:51] <BlackWing> I think it's Accords now
[2015-08-08 13:28:00] <Dmatix> The twins were a boring addition to the MCU, but them not being Jewish is the least of their issues.
[2015-08-08 13:28:07] <Dmatix> And I'm saying this as a Jew.
[2015-08-08 13:28:14] <Roxie> tfw the only characters in the avengers without their own films were the black guy, the disabled guy and the woman [cough]
[2015-08-08 13:28:19] <BlackWing> Scarlet Witch has a neat powerset
[2015-08-08 13:28:28] <BlackWing> Who is the "disabled guy"?
[2015-08-08 13:28:36] <Dmatix> They simply had no distinguishing characteristics other than "vague accents"
[2015-08-08 13:28:37] <Roxie> …hawk eye???
[2015-08-08 13:28:37] <Roxie> obviously
[2015-08-08 13:28:39] <Djoric> BlackWing: eh. It's "wispy red energy shit"
[2015-08-08 13:28:44] <Djoric> it's not even proppa magic
[2015-08-08 13:28:50] <BlackWing> Djoric: Wispy red energy shit that does damamge
[2015-08-08 13:28:51] <Djoric> she's no proppa witch
[2015-08-08 13:28:54] <Dmatix> …Since when is Hawkeye disabled?
[2015-08-08 13:28:55] <Djoric> she doesn't even have a hat
[2015-08-08 13:28:58] <Roxie> he's deaf
[2015-08-08 13:29:01] <Djoric> what sort of witch doesn't have a hat?
[2015-08-08 13:29:02] <Dmatix> …okay?
[2015-08-08 13:29:03] <BlackWing> Roxie: I wouldn't call "needs a hearing aid in the comics" as disabled
[2015-08-08 13:29:12] <BlackWing> Dmatix: He blew out an ear drum in the comics years ago
[2015-08-08 13:29:15] <Roxie> a lot of HoH people would, BlackWing
[2015-08-08 13:29:17] <Shqueak> :|
[2015-08-08 13:29:30] <Djoric> I think SHEILD's health plan would cover a new one
[2015-08-08 13:29:31] <Dmatix> And yeah, that's not much of a disability, at least not one the MCU should concern itself with.
[2015-08-08 13:29:39] <Shqueak> I don't class that as disabled, no. I'm not disabled at all. I can do plenty.
[2015-08-08 13:29:49] <BlackWing> Oracle was disabled
[2015-08-08 13:29:51] <Roxie> Dmatix: kinda shitty to remove the only deaf representation though
[2015-08-08 13:29:51] <Freudian> http://www.scp-wiki.net/uglyflower-author-page um
[2015-08-08 13:29:52] <Alexandra> Freudian: Dr. Flower who is also a giraffe (Rating:+24, Written by UglyFlower) - http://scp-wiki.net/uglyflower-author-page
[2015-08-08 13:29:54] <BlackWing> emphasis on /was/
[2015-08-08 13:29:55] <Freudian> I just found this
[2015-08-08 13:29:56] <BlackWing> Fucking DC
[2015-08-08 13:30:00] <Freudian> and found my name on it
[2015-08-08 13:30:04] <Dmatix> He's not deaf. He has some hearing impermanent.
[2015-08-08 13:30:08] <Freudian> OH
[2015-08-08 13:30:10] <Freudian> never mind
[2015-08-08 13:30:14] <Freudian> I'm dumb
[2015-08-08 13:30:21] <Roxie> Dmatix: well lots of HoH people would say that's a disability
[2015-08-08 13:30:28] <Shqueak> Partially Deaf person right here.
[2015-08-08 13:30:29] <Dmatix> What would having Hawkeye having a hearing aid add to the movies?
[2015-08-08 13:30:32] <SoundChaser> Freudian: it may be a "insert personnel name he-yeah
[2015-08-08 13:30:37] <Kalinin> Freudian: Eh, everyone has to find out about the "your name here" trick for the first time at some point.
[2015-08-08 13:30:43] <Shqueak> But apparently, NO ONE pays attention to me in here.
[2015-08-08 13:30:46] <Freudian> I knew about it before
[2015-08-08 13:30:48] <Shqueak> So, ya know.
[2015-08-08 13:30:50] <Roxie> Dmatix: representation
[2015-08-08 13:30:52] <Takov> Shqueak: I kinda do.
[2015-08-08 13:30:53] <Freudian> I just. didn't think
[2015-08-08 13:30:54] <Kalinin> And then you can begin to get tired of it like everyone else
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[2015-08-08 13:31:03] <Takov> Just not sure what to say if anything.
[2015-08-08 13:31:11] <Roxie> Dmatix: and, actually, other than that i don't know. why? because they didn't do it. they could've done something with it if they had, though.
[2015-08-08 13:31:32] | DrYucatan (~PI.CF2C77E8.D8BB8CF8.F7974E74|natacuyrd#PI.CF2C77E8.D8BB8CF8.F7974E74|natacuyrd) has joined #site19
[2015-08-08 13:31:48] <Dmatix> You know what? I'm done arguing with you. This entire conversation is incredibly stupid.
[2015-08-08 13:31:50] <Roxie> black widow and hawk eye conversing silently in sign language would've been a nice touch
[2015-08-08 13:31:52] <Djoric> Shqueak: I heard ya
[2015-08-08 13:31:54] <Shqueak> Takov: yeah, but Roxie is ignoring the opinion of the partially deaf person in the room because it isn't inline with theirs. Bleh.
[2015-08-08 13:32:04] <Dmatix> And it might get me banned, so I'm done.
[2015-08-08 13:32:04] <Takov> Indeed.
[2015-08-08 13:32:11] <Ireul> Shqueak: Am I seeing a late night hallucination?
[2015-08-08 13:32:12] <Roxie> Shqueak: i didn't see that
[2015-08-08 13:32:37] <Roxie> and please, my pronouns are "she"
[2015-08-08 13:32:59] <Takov> That's one pronoun, singular.
[2015-08-08 13:33:08] <Shqueak> >.> 900% done with you. Kbai.
[2015-08-08 13:33:12] <Roxie> she/her
[2015-08-08 13:33:33] <Silber> Okay, this conversation has gone on long enough.
[2015-08-08 13:33:44] <Metaphysician> .ch SCP, novel
[2015-08-08 13:33:45] <Alexandra> Metaphysician: SCP
[2015-08-08 13:33:54] <Metaphysician> Of course *you* would say that…
[2015-08-08 13:34:03] <Roxie> Shqueak: i mean if you wanna talk the fact that i probably didn't notice because of my disability that stops me being able to pick out pieces of data, sure, but if you wanna act like a genuine mistake was an attack then go on, be a prick. i'm sorry i didn't see what you had written.
[2015-08-08 13:34:03] <Silber> Op order, drop it, it's only causing people stress.
[2015-08-08 13:34:08] <Ireul> Takov: Damn my sleep deprivation made me auditize that as Jeffrey Combs doin the Question.
[2015-08-08 13:34:09] <Silber> Move it to another room if you have to.
[2015-08-08 13:34:18] <Takov> Heh
[2015-08-08 13:34:21] <SoundChaser> Metaphysician: come on, you know you'd just end up moving back to the site whatever she says
[2015-08-08 13:34:37] <Dmatix> Damn, blast this heat.
[2015-08-08 13:34:47] <Dmatix> It's bloody 35C out there.
[2015-08-08 13:34:51] =-= Roxie was booted from #site19 by YOU (Calling other chat users names is over the line.)
[2015-08-08 13:34:53] <Soulless|Reclusin> Dmatix: I'm sorry
[2015-08-08 13:35:00] <GreenWolf> Dmatix: ouch
[2015-08-08 13:35:03] <Ireul> Dmatix: We can trade temps, its midnight winter down here.
[2015-08-08 13:35:08] <Shqueak> Thank you.
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[2015-08-08 13:35:21] <Dmatix> I'd do that willingly, Ireul. I'd much rather be cold.
[2015-08-08 13:35:28] <Dmatix> At least you can do something against the cold.
[2015-08-08 13:35:41] <Metaphysician> Soundchaser true;p
[2015-08-08 13:35:41] <Shqueak> All the blankets :3
[2015-08-08 13:35:43] <Roxie> i'm sorry for calling you a prick, Shqueak. it was out of line, and i'm sorry. my bad.
[2015-08-08 13:35:55] <Metaphysician> Ah Alexandra - I surrender the burden of choice to you!
[2015-08-08 13:36:07] <Dmatix> This is Jerusalem, it's not supposed to be this bloody hot here.
[2015-08-08 13:36:12] <Ireul> Shqueak: I have three layers on everyday
[2015-08-08 13:36:17] <Shqueak> Yup. Thanks for the apology. Moving on.
[2015-08-08 13:36:27] <Shqueak> I usually have a lot of layers as well :)