Contents of discussion prior to ban and actual ban follow. I'd put it in a collapsible, but it's 3 o' clock in the morning, and I'm too tired for this shit. Feel free to collapse the hell out of it.
02:09 Aelanna The tag system is pretty comprehensive
02:09 ProcyonLotor .sea bundle
02:09 Nala ProcyonLotor: A Bundle of Stories (rating: +98, 14 revisions) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-582
02:09 Aelanna .. that be it
02:09 Echo The baseline tag system actually makes more sense as classification in-universe than the "Safe/Euclid/Keter" thing does
02:09 Aelanna that's because the S/E/K system was… well
02:09 Aelanna Euclid was just part of SCP-173
02:09 ProcyonLotor I think euclid could actually be broken down into multiple categories
02:09 Aelanna and existed in a vacuum
02:10 Aelanna the rest was drawn up by the first admins
02:10 Aelanna also in a vacuum
02:10 ProcyonLotor as it ranges from not-quite-safe to not-quite-world-ending
02:10 Sophos Aelanna: I thought the toaster was a proximity-based hazard
02:10 Aelanna the tag system was created as a parallel to real-life data classification systems
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02:10 Echo The problem is that they mean literally nothing and provide no useful information
02:10 Echo It's entirely trivial
02:10 Aelanna sophos: nope. someone kept next to it for months didn't show effects
02:10 Aelanna and people talking about it on the other side of the globe do
02:10 ProcyonLotor I agree, but it's probably much to late to do anything
02:10 Anborough ProcyonLotor some Euclids are actually pretty fuckin' dangerous
02:10 Echo Hearing a "Keter" alarm, or "upgrading something's classification to Keter in light of recent events" means absolutely nothing
02:11 Mastersarge So… Aelanna… for example; a red octagon shape. If anyone would look or see a pic of it, they would stop instantly, cease all functions. DOes that categorize as Memetic?
02:11 Echo Because there's zero granularity and commonality
02:11 MrXeZe @Echo Why?
02:11 Echo Because there's zero granularity and commonality
02:11 ProcyonLotor Anborough: that's what I meant. it ranges from practically safe to practically apocalyptic
02:11 MrXeZe @ Echo What do you mean by that?
02:11 Echo …
02:11 Aelanna Mastersarge: No, that's a visual cognitohazard
02:11 Anborough SCP-1815
02:11 Echo Do you know what granularity is?
02:11 Nala Anborough: A Mercurial Doppelganger (rating: +32, 6 revisions) - http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1815
02:11 ProcyonLotor let me google that for you
02:11 Mastersarge ah
02:11 Aelanna MrXeZe: Take any two random Euclid-class objects.
02:11 Anborough ProcyonLotor: I'd say this would be Keter if what it did was confirmed
02:11 ProcyonLotor http://lmgtfy.com/?q=granularity+definition
02:12 MrXeZe Aren't Euclid easy to contain, and Keter a huge bother to contain? Is that the difference?
02:12 Aelanna … umm
02:12 Aelanna stop
02:12 Aelanna stop, stop, stop
02:12 Aelanna hold up a second here please :I
02:12 Echo Shut up, and simply listen
02:12 Aelanna what Echo is saying, which he tends to fail at explaining
02:12 Aelanna is that there is absolutely no correlation between any two objects of the same class
02:12 Echo I'm going to choke all of you
02:12 Aelanna yet
02:12 Aelanna at the same time
02:12 Aelanna people do stupid things like "we need to reclassify this to Euclid"
02:12 Aelanna or
02:12 ProcyonLotor echo: hot
02:12 Aelanna "there's a Keter alarm going off"
02:12 Aelanna but
02:12 GrandEnder Mastersarge: Does a duplicate red octagon shape have the same properties?
02:12 Aelanna that means absolutely /nothing/ to site staff
02:13 Anborough Aelanna & Echo: excellent timing on those posts
02:13 Aelanna because… GRANDENDER, PROCYON, SHUT UP
02:13 MrXeZe obviously.
02:13 Aelanna Imagine you're working at a site
02:13 Aelanna and you're a guard
02:13 Aelanna and suddenly alarms go off
02:13 Aelanna and the PA announces "WE HAVE A KETER-CLASS BREACH"
02:13 Aelanna that tells you absolutely nothing in terms of what you should do to respond to it
02:13 Aelanna now
02:14 Aelanna if the PA instead sayd, "WE HAVE A BREACH OF A METAMORPHIC HUMANOID ENTITY"
02:14 Aelanna you at least have something to go on
02:14 Aelanna like I was saying
02:14 Automaton obviously you open the "In case of Keter" box
02:14 Aelanna tags were created to mirror real-life data classification
02:14 MrXeZe Direct 682 at it, and see what happens?
02:14 Automaton (the box kills you instantly)
02:14 Aelanna the S/E/K system is utterly useless
02:15 Palaios You'd want something like the msds style classification, what it does and how severe the effects are
02:15 Mastersarge So they are basically labels S/E/K
02:15 Palaios like: flammable 5
02:15 Mastersarge What the data tells us defines whether or not it is considered a safe or euclid or keter
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02:15 MrXeZe Speaking of classes shouldn't 096 be reclassified to Keter, regarding that he went on a rampage akindo to that of two godzillas?
02:16 Anborough the SEK system is useless in regards to response planning
02:16 Anborough but is useful in organizing data and priorities
02:16 MrXeZe Or maybe….
02:16 MrXeZe Three godzillas!!!
02:16 Aelanna Palaios: MSDS systems have been suggested before
02:16 ProcyonLotor …
02:16 *** MrXeZe was kicked by Echo (Come back on the 24th, Eastern Standard Time. And be mellower.)
02:16 ProcyonLotor thank you
02:16 Anborough honestly surprised that didn't happen sooner
02:17 Echo Fucking retard.
02:17 Mastersarge Mr.XeZe gave me a headache
02:17 Aelanna let's just be honest
02:17 Mastersarge Jesus christ he wouldn't shut up.
02:17 Aelanna S/E/K sound cool. that's all.
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02:17 ProcyonLotor guy was a neverending font of stupidity from his first comment to his last
02:17 ProcyonLotor welp
02:17 Aelanna from an operational standpoint, it's useless
02:17 ProcyonLotor looks like you didn't get the point
02:17 ProcyonLotor ie, don't come back for 24 hours
02:17 MrXeZe Okay, I'm sorry.
02:17 Anborough Aelanna: yeah, it's just cool
02:17 Aelanna Echo
02:17 Palaios it kind of acts as a 1-3 severity ranking when combined with tags
02:17 Aelanna you failed to pull the trigger properly
02:17 MrXeZe I won't make any more stupid comments, I promise
02:18 ProcyonLotor echo, we need you
02:18 Mastersarge I see S/E/K as a classification system rather than an operational response or cool name.
02:18 Echo Oh, hey, you can't follow simple fucking instructions.
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