
On Sunday, a user named Curtisimo was IP-banned by Tox for apparently being underage.
Can someone provide logs?
Also, does an underage ban on chat also extend to a wiki ban?
I definitely remember the incident because tox just wouldn't frikin ban the guy. But he eefinitely admitted to being underage. Admins?
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!
Also, does an underage ban on chat also extend to a wiki ban?
Well, it's not like he's gonna be 13 in chat but 17 on the site, so I don't see why not.
Thanks to Tuomey.
02:24:27: <Magnus> Fuck.
02:24:36: <Magnus> I don't know what to bullshit for this second assignment.
02:24:42: <EthanRedinger> XD
02:24:45: <PaulS_laptop> Voct: I'll see your hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitane and raise you some dihoxigyn difluoride
02:24:46: <Curtisimo> What's the assignment?
02:24:46: <Magnus> Since it's due in…7 minutes, and we never even went over this shit.
02:25:03: <Voct> ClF3
02:25:04: <Magnus> Curtisimo: Write a radix sort among at minimum four process threads or virtual threads, using openMPI.
02:25:05: <PaulS_laptop> *oxygen
02:25:07: <EthanRedinger> Guys, who agrees that if you could pick one SCP to be real, it would be 914?
02:25:17: <PaulS_laptop> Voct: pentaborane
02:25:19: <EthanRedinger> *And to have*
02:25:21: <Magnus> EthanRedinger: I would pick none of them, because htey have reality destroying consequences.
02:25:26: <Curtisimo> A what.
02:25:35: <Magnus> A radix sort.
02:25:37: <Vince|mobile> Nah. I'd want the infinite pizza box
02:25:46: <EthanRedinger> That'd be a waste though.. XD
02:25:47: <Curtisimo> I repeat: A what.
02:25:56: <EthanRedinger> I want SCP-420-J
02:25:56: <Vince|mobile> Not for me
02:25:57: <slate> Egg Walker
02:26:02: <Magnus> And I repeat, a Radix Sort.
02:26:05: <Magnus> It's a sorting algorithm.
02:26:14: <PaulS_laptop> I want SCP-___-j
02:26:15: <EthanRedinger> :D
02:26:21: <EthanRedinger> I want "An SCP"
02:26:30: <Magnus> PaulS_laptop: Mother of fuck, I never thought of that one.
02:26:33: <slate> Egg Walker would kick some ass
02:26:39: <slate> Walking down the road
02:26:43: <PaulS_laptop> Magnus: :D
02:26:43: <EthanRedinger> I want SCP-10101
02:26:45: <slate> BRRRRT this, brap tat
02:26:54: <EthanRedinger> :*
02:26:57: <EthanRedinger> :)
02:27:01: <Curtisimo> … I'm not even in highschool, dude. And I doubt that you can write a sorting code in 7 minutes, so. My advice is the grease the teacher.
02:27:19: <Nala> Voct: http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DovEDhFfgdOo (Total Eclipse of the Heart: Literal Video Version (REFRAMED …) Oct 18, 2010 … NON-CAT version (now blocked worldwide): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj- x9ygQEGA Lyrics changed to describe the video. The first …
02:27:19: <Voct> .g "flying altar boy"
02:27:25: <Mastersarge> That one already exists Ethan. :p
02:27:26: <EthanRedinger> Or copy the sorting code
02:27:34: <Vince|mobile> … Not in highschool, Curtisimo?
02:27:40: <EthanRedinger> I know Master. I was saying ones you want Master
02:27:46: <Curtisimo> 8th grade.
02:27:52: <EthanRedinger> Uh oh..
02:28:01: <Blaroth> Hey
02:28:05: <Mr_Wilt> How old are you?
02:28:12: <Tox|Laptop> ….
02:28:12: <EthanRedinger> An underage member, in it's natural habitat"
02:28:15: <Blaroth> TOO DAMN OLD
02:28:16: <Mr_Wilt> Blaroth~
02:28:23: <Blaroth> Wilt <3
02:28:27: <Voct> EthanRedinger - type the first few letters of someone's username, then hit tab
02:28:28: Tox|Laptop turns his boot on Curtisimo
02:28:35: <Tox|Laptop> Curtisimo: What is your age?
02:28:36: <Voct> because it feels really creepy to see you calling people "Master"
02:28:46: <EthanRedinger> Curtisimo: 12-13
02:28:51: Tuomey picks up Blaroth, places on shoulder
02:28:53: <EthanRedinger> XD Sorry Voct
02:28:59: <EthanRedinger> Mastersarge: Testing
02:28:59: <Tuomey> Hello, fellow nocturnal person
02:29:01: Blaroth coos happily and preens Tuomey
02:29:01: <Tox|Laptop> EthanRedinger: Let Curtisimo answer for himself, please
02:29:22: EthanRedinger apologizes and sits back down
02:29:34: <Magnus> What did the muffin say to another muffin, when greeted in the morning?
02:29:43: <Voct> nothing. It was a muffin.
02:29:47: <Magnus> …
02:29:49: <Magnus> Damnit voct.
02:29:51: <Voct> EthanRedinger - did you read that page explaining the origins of Slenderman?
02:29:54: <Tuomey> Magnus: "I'm so fucking baked"?
02:29:57: <Tox|Laptop> Curtisimo
02:30:00: <Tox|Laptop> Answer
02:30:00: <Magnus> The correct answer was "HOLY FUCK A TALKING MUFFIN"
02:30:03: <EthanRedinger> No Voct, I had to sign up for the thing
02:30:03: <Curtisimo> I feel that, if noone can tell that I'm not at the age limit until I tell them I'm not, I can be here.
02:30:17: <slate> …
02:30:21: <Blaroth> LMFAO
02:30:23: <Magnus> ….
02:30:24: <Magnus> HAHAHAHA
02:30:24: <Tuomey> …if someone has to ask, dude
02:30:26: <Tox|Laptop> Curtisimo: That persists until your age is called into question, only because we can't tell.
02:30:27: <Magnus> HE THINKS ITS FAIR
02:30:31: <EthanRedinger> Curtisimo: You just admitted to it.
02:30:33: Magnus falls on the floor laughing.
02:30:35: <Voct> Curtisimo - and if you mention it….
02:30:37: <Tox|Laptop> You saying you're not in high school calls it into question.
02:30:39: <Blaroth> Someone is going TO THE MOOOONNNN
02:30:42: <thedeadlymoose> Well, Curtisimo, you were told in the chat guide not to publicize your being underage.
02:30:42: <Tox|Laptop> Now answer the question.
02:30:45: <thedeadlymoose> And you just did.
02:30:46: <Tuomey> Curtisimo: farewell
02:30:47: <Tox|Laptop> Peanut gallery, pipe down
02:30:49: <Theally> muffin they cant talk
02:30:49: <Voct> Tox|Laptop- well, *I'm* not in high school.
02:30:50: <Magnus> Tox is an OP
02:30:55: <Magnus> If you don't answer him, he could just straight ban you.
02:31:00: <slate> /+m
02:31:01: <Magnus> (Even if he just felt like it)
02:31:04: <Roget> magnus shhhh
02:31:04: <Voct> but that's because I finished high school in the nineties.
02:31:13: <Curtisimo> …Damn. I'm sorry.
02:31:15: <Tox|Laptop> Curtisimo: Answer the question.
02:31:15: <EthanRedinger> I have never seen this happen
02:31:22: <Curtisimo> I am 15.
02:31:32: <Tox|Laptop> Are you /sure./
02:31:33: <EthanRedinger> 15 in 8th grade?
02:31:38: <Tox|Laptop> Because you're in 8th grade.
02:31:44: <Magnus> American Education system.
02:31:46: <Curtisimo> Yes. I have a weird birthday.
02:31:46: Magnus buh dum tss.
02:31:53: <Tox|Laptop> 8th grade is 14, at highest.
02:31:55: <EthanRedinger> A weird birthday would make you 14
02:31:57: <Erich_See> Wooo haven't been here for a while.
02:32:02: <Tox|Laptop> and that's if you have a weirdass birthday.
02:32:05: <EthanRedinger> Welcome back Erich_See
02:32:05: <Voct> or it could be a failure
02:32:07: <Voct> hey, Erich_See
02:32:07: <Erich_See> .. ack
02:32:09: <Erich_See> Hold on.
02:32:10: <thedeadlymoose> Tox. Check other chat, pleae.
02:32:12: <thedeadlymoose> *please
02:32:13: <Voct> Erich_See, want to see my rewrites?
02:32:13: <Roget> EthanRedinger shhhh
02:32:13: <EthanRedinger> You can't FAIL 8th grade
02:32:16: <Tox|Laptop> Check rog.
02:32:16: <Theally> .sea lagtest
02:32:16: <Nala> TheAlly: I'm sorry, I couldn't find any articles by that name.
02:32:17: <Curtisimo> There are 13-15 year old guys in my class.
(He quit shortly after this without saying anything else and was IP banned)
Living the dream, or dreaming the life?
So….the slapnuts comes back as Willahelm_Pherenike a few days ago, complaining of being banned from the chatroom and not knowing why. Zyn tries to help, can't get the guy on IRC for a hostmask verification. She finally does so tonight, and after some legwork, it's discovered that his hostmask matches one that I banned a month ago. More legwork tied it to Curtisimo. When asked point-blank if he went by Curtisimo, he affirmed and attempted to offer an explanation that it was his cousin. Logs follow.
(22:06:57) Willahelm_Pherenike: Hello? Zyn said that I should PM you, so that I can get un-banned from #site19.
(22:07:03) Tox|Laptop: Ah, there you are :>
(22:07:15) Tox|Laptop: I was looking out for you — let's see if we can't get this shit squared away
307: is a registered nick
(22:07:53) Willahelm_Pherenike: Yeah. I just tried to join, still says that I'm banned.
(22:11:14) Tox|Laptop: Hmmmm.
(22:11:38) Tox|Laptop: You didn't happen to go by Curtisimo a whiles back, did you?
(22:11:59) Willahelm_Pherenike: The PM tab closed. Did you do that?
(22:12:05) Tox|Laptop: No I did not.
(22:12:47) Tox|Laptop: Did you go by Curtisimo a while back?
(22:13:54) User is not logged in
(22:15:05) Willahelm_Pherenike: Okay, managed to bring the PM tab back up.
(22:16:51) Tox|Laptop: Did you or did you not go by the username Curtisimo about a month ago?
307: is a registered nick
(22:17:52) Willahelm_Pherenike: Yes. And I know that you think I'm underage because of that. But I have an explanation.
(22:18:51) Tox|Laptop: Go on.
(22:19:46) Tox|Laptop: Also, if you knew that you were Curtisimo and that I had banned you, why in God's name would you ask why you were still banned?
(22:20:25) Willahelm_Pherenike: A month ago, my family came for a visit. Aunts, uncles, cousins, that sort of stuff. Family gathering. When the older guys went to a bar to hang out, I was assigned babysitting duty, considering that I don't drink.
(22:21:25) Tox|Laptop: I fail to see the relevance of this to your age…?
(22:21:57) Willahelm_Pherenike: I was with my fourteen year old cousin. He asked me what I did for fun, I rattled off some stuff, including SCP. He asked what it was, I showed him, nothing much happened. Later, I got a call from my friends to go out with them. I left my cousin here, 'cause he's fourteen and I thought he could mind for himself.
(22:22:22) Willahelm_Pherenike: He got on, made a Mibbit account, and essentially posed as me. Then got banned.
(22:23:29) Tox|Laptop: What reason is there that I should believe that?
(22:24:21) Tox|Laptop: also, if you were on babysitting duty, why in the hell would you go off and leave your charges alone?
(22:24:34) Willahelm_Pherenike: None. But it's true. I know I'm not giving myself much credibility here, and that's it's ridiculous, but that's what happened.
(22:24:56) Willahelm_Pherenike: It was only one 14 year old kid. Weren't you left alone sometimes when you were 14?
(22:26:22) Tox|Laptop: That's off point.
(22:27:24) Willahelm_Pherenike: How so? I left him alone because I trusted him not to hurt himself, considering his age. Also because I wanted to hang out with my friends.
(22:28:06) Willahelm_Pherenike: I wouldn't leave a 7 year old alone, but a teenager can fend for himself in the frightening jungle of my apartment for three hours or so.
(22:32:00) Tox|Laptop: Again, off-point. The topic at hand is whether or not you're making a valid case for a review of the ban in place. I have an accountability formation to go to, and I'll consider the matter while there. Can you hang tight for a while? Say…twenty minutes at the outside?
(22:34:17) Willahelm_Pherenike: Oh, I'm sorry. There shouldn't be any reason I can't wait 20 minutes or so.
(22:34:45) Tox|Laptop: Roger. I'll be back thereafter.
(22:54:48) Tox|Laptop: Aaaaaight. I'm back. and hey I was just about on the money
(22:56:41) Tox|Laptop: I have to say, I'm not inclined to review your ban. I'll kick it up the chain, but don't hold your breath for a reversal. Too, your presence on the wiki is now under review. Is there anything else?
tl;dr a whole bunch of crap that I am not inclined to believe. Recommend the ban be left in place, and further recommend review of his Wikidot account, of the same name.
I'm initially hesitant, based on the fact that he's pretty well-spoken for fourteen, but it's just such a fuckin' ridiculous story, and further, even if 'truth is stranger than fiction', if he can't keep his 14 year old cousin off his personal accounts, then… welp.
Maybe in six months?
EDIT IP, I believe, is *!*@synIRC-505D7822.ok.ok.cox.net
I don't think there's a chance in hell that he's telling the truth, but a six month ban sounds reasonable to me. I'd also advocate extending this to the Willahelm_Pherenike wiki membership, since he's underage and all.
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!
I'd also advocate extending this to the Willahelm_Pherenike wiki membership, since he's underage and all.
Same.
And yeah, the typing style is identical. I don't believe him at all.
I'm not entirely impressed by the fact that he created a new account (to slip under the radar and get back into the mainsite?) and PMed me of all people (unless anyone else got PMs from this guy, I'm going to assume he targeted newer staff?) almost in an effort to bypass having to explain how he really ended up banned in the first place.
Also, did he ever mention what age he really is?
He claims his "brother" is fourteen, so I think it's safe to assume he's probably fourteen.
He tried to appeal to me in PMs as well. I'm not inclined to believe him.
At request:
Hello sir,
It would appear that some mistake has been made. I would like to first summarize what has happened.
I was banned from the SCP Foundation site; not just had my membership revoked, but also it was made so that I cannot access the forum, and other parts of the site. It was said that I was 'underage.'
I assure you I am not, though I understand why you might think that I am. Allow me to explain.
My younger cousin, a 14 year old boy, was visiting me. When his parents were out, and I was babysitting him at my house, he asked me what I did for fun. I rattled off a list of things, one of them being SCP. He asked me what it was, I told and showed him, and nothing much occurred.
At some point, I went out to go and hang out with my friends. I left him alone, because I assumed that because he was 14, he could take care of himself and not burn my house down.
While I was gone, he went on my computer, and started messing with stuff. He went onto the SCP chat, and made it known that he was underage. He said that he was me, and that I was 15.
I was then banned from the chat, and kicked from the site, which are both appropriate behaviors, should an underage person make it known that he was underage.
I reapplied to the site, and was accepted back in. I figured that was that, and I would live with being banned from the chat.
However, I've been kicked again, and cannot reapply.
I would greatly appreciate it if you considered un-banning me from the chat, and allowing me to reapply to the site.In Summary: I didn't do it, it was my younger cousin. A very weak excuse, I know, but the truth. Please allow me to re-join SCP.
"WELL FOUNDATION. YOU MADE IT SO EASY. SO VERY VERY EASY." - dimensionpotato
I notice he still refuses to give his actual age, even though it would have been present in his application to the site and an admin would have seen it anyway.
So, his new account slipped through the apps process. Removing him and blocking.
Admin, SCP Wiki
Welp, the slapnuts comes back.
(12:59:56) Willahelm_Pherenike: Hey there. I'm sorry for the abrupt drop yesterday, but one of my friends called and said that he needed me to drive him to the airport. At 5AM. I left so that I could get some sleep beforehand.
(13:02:05) Tox|Laptop: S'good.
(13:02:19) Tox|Laptop: I racked out shortly thereafter anyways.
(13:04:54) Willahelm_Pherenike: "Racked out?"
(13:05:33) Tox|Laptop: Went to sleep.
(13:05:56) Willahelm_Pherenike: Ah.
(13:06:20) Willahelm_Pherenike: So. Is there any way to convince you that I am not, in fact, 14
(13:06:23) Willahelm_Pherenike: *?
(13:07:35) Tox|Laptop: Unfortunately, there is not. There are too many factors linking you to Curtisimo, whether or not this account and that were in fact manned by two separate people.
(13:08:27) Willahelm_Pherenike: It wasn't manned by two people; my cousin hijacked the first while I was out.
(13:09:03) Willahelm_Pherenike: This one is my own. I don't let him mess with my computer anymore. He also downloaded a bunch of games and shit, which I had to clear out.
(13:10:25) Tox|Laptop: You misunderstand. WHether or not Curtisimo and Willahelm are in fact manned by two separate people (your cousin as Curtisimo and now you as Willahelm), there is precious little reason for me to believe it.
(13:12:11) Willahelm_Pherenike: …Yes. I know that. If I were in your position, I'd be thinking the same thing. I understand if you can't let me back in, considering the lack of evidence.
(13:13:52) Tox|Laptop: I kicked it higher, and they advised me to leave the ban in place. Further, they called into question your wikidot membership. Is there anything further?
(13:15:05) Willahelm_Pherenike: There isn't really much more I can say. I don't have any evidence to back up what I'm saying.
(13:16:21) Tox|Laptop: Very well, then.
HAVE WE SEEN THE LAST OF WILLAHELM P SLAPNUTS?! I doubt it.
For reference, the user's new wikidot account is here: http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/Willahelm_Pherenike
And for the record, the first PM I was sent contained the following:
Hi there. Not sure if you're the person I should be telling this to, but you're a Mod, so you can probably direct me to the person I should be talking to.
I recently tried to get into the SCP Chatroom, via Mibbit. I made an account, registered a name, ETC, it was all very easy. But when I typed /join Site 19, it said that I was banned from the chatroom, despite never being in it before. I would like to be able to get rapid-response critique, so figuring out what's wrong, and subsequently being allowed into the room, would be appreciated.
Underage and what seems to be ban evading, seeing as Tox has already confirmed that the Curtisimo and Willahelm wiki accounts were created by the same person.