Disciplinary - Crocket_Lawnchair

Summary:

Problematic feedback, recurring issues after addressed by staff

Disciplinary - Crocket_Lawnchair

Zyn 24 Jun 2018 21:03

Crocket_Lawnchair has been posting some vague and misleading feedback lately, including:

http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-6231742/gif-printer#post-3848916

GAW is a real bad idea. Wait until your more experienced to include GoIs.

http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-6232162/my-scp-concept#post-3848882

Clinical is good, no real issues, but that's not the main problem. Try thinking of what could be done with the idea of these tires. Maybe they're from an anomalous auto dealership. Maybe you could write about the auto dealership, and have the tires just be part of an item log. Try and think about every little possibility like that.

http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-6231742/gif-printer#post-3848876

The idea of a .gif printer isn't really unique. It has some potential of being good if you throw some kind of twist on it. Maybe it makes normal images into .gifs. What if you print a .gif with audio? This idea has some promise, but it needs fleshing out.

http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-6232162/my-scp-concept#post-3848870

Idea is pretty bland and uninteresting. This feels like something that belongs in the Log of Anomalous Items. I'd say scrap the concept and head back to the drawing board.

http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-6042141/scp-001-proposal:black-flag#post-3820604

The ledgeds, are they true? They are. The true SCP-001 proposal has come to fruition. Praise be.

In all seriousness, dank article. However, my ethics only allowed me to skim. But it was good.

http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-6041064/scp-xxxx:ere-s-olah#post-3820454

Oh Jesus mother of format screw no thank you plz no

http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-6040688/renoit-blankets#post-3820452

It's pretty good. Didn't notice much wrong expect for a typo in the X-4 log. (Mayor, should be Major)

Given that they've been addressed by staff and other community members multiple times (and likely for more cases before the ones I've recorded here) without showing improvement, I've revoked their membership and sent a PM.

Re: Disciplinary - Crocket_Lawnchair

Zyn 24 Jun 2018 21:12

Received a reply two replies, indicating… well, put nicely, lack of self-awareness on their part:

I didn't receive any kind of warning that mediocre critique is bannable, and my critique isn't even that bad! I'm sorry that I didn't make great critique, but this shouldn't be a bannable offence.

Also, I don't really appreciate you nitpicking the critique. I'm not a dang expert on writing it, so sorry if I have to work on it. I'm aware this is a temporary ban, but it's like banning for posting mediocre SCPs

Sent back:

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I didn't receive any kind of warning that mediocre critique is bannable,

Giving mediocre feedback in itself isn't punishable by disciplinary action; however, repeatedly ignoring staff orders to improve and adhere to the Criticism Policy is.

and my critique isn't even that bad!

Given how many times staff and community members have needed to address problematic feedback from you, without any improvement, this is not the case.

I'm sorry that I didn't make great critique, but this shouldn't be a bannable offence.

You have not received a site ban. If you had received a ban, access to the site would be completely blocked to your account.

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Also, I don't really appreciate you nitpicking the critique. I'm not a dang expert on writing it, so sorry if I have to work on it.

If this is the response you have to being told your critique needs to improve, you are not suited to being a reviewer.

I'm aware this is a temporary ban, but it's like banning for posting mediocre SCPs

You have not been issued a ban.

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Keep an eye on, I guess.

Last edited on 24 Jun 2018 21:14 by Zyn Show more

Re: Disciplinary - Crocket_Lawnchair

Zyn 26 Jun 2018 04:01

Received a reply:

Wait, obtaining a membership is disabled right now. The membership revoke was supposed to be for only 24 hours. How am I supposed to become a member again? I'm not taking "You can't" as an answer.

Sent back:

Wait, obtaining a membership is disabled right now. The membership revoke was supposed to be for only 24 hours. How am I supposed to become a member again?

A current possibility is that staff can open up the applications process for you specifically during a certain time window.

I'm not taking "You can't" as an answer.

Given this sort of demanding reaction, I will have a very hard time trying to present a case for staff to allow an exception to the applications lock for you.

I admit I'm a little hesitant on letting this one back in, given their behavior thus far.

If necessary, I can handle the application window exception, if we are to allow it.

ETA from a week later: they've re-applied to the site, with the following appended to their app

Ayy wus good I had my account suspended for bad criticism (kinda dumb but whatever).

Not particularly indicative of a behavioral improvement.

Last edited on 03 Jul 2018 05:18 by Zyn Show more

Re: Disciplinary - Crocket_Lawnchair

ProcyonLotor 26 Jun 2018 04:20

We've made far more polite people sweat it out.

Re: Disciplinary - Crocket_Lawnchair

ChaoSera 26 Jun 2018 07:54

Agreed, with that response I'm not inclined to let them back in earlier than everybody else who's patiently waiting.

Re: Disciplinary - Crocket_Lawnchair

Leveritas 26 Jun 2018 11:15

'I'm not taking ''you can't'' as an answer?'

If I were either disc or an admin, I'd reply that the next sassy PM might earn them a weeklong ban. This is not the attitude you take to anyone, especially not staff and especially not while you're waiting for your revoke to expire.

Last edited on 26 Jun 2018 11:19 by Leveritas Show more

Re: Disciplinary - Crocket_Lawnchair

Zyn 27 Jul 2018 20:18

It has come to staff attention that this user has begun to engage in backseat modding and other questionable behaviors, including:

Telling forum-goers to use the sandbox, which is typically done by Forum Criticism staff: http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-6561128/the-house#post-3883475 and http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-6560030/scp-xxxx#post-3883434 (generally I don't mind this, but given their previous behavior, it is concerning that they've been taking it upon themselves to act with authority they don't have)

Sending staff (or at least me) a bunch of overly familiar PMs requesting action:

Hi. I have a draft in the forums that got completely neglected and is now in page 2 hell. How can I get it back into notoriety?

Help there is an evil man attacking my SCP (3947) spamming about crips or something

That'll show him. Bloods fo' life! (Is a joke, plz no ban)

Hello. I had recently been going around asking people to add a name to their article on the Series IV page. One of these people, [username here] asked if his article [title here] could be deleted. I don't know if you can do that yourself, but either please do or ask another of your mod buddies to do so. Thanks!

I responded to the posts with the following:

• Told the user that their thread wasn't even a day old and to be patient.
• Told the user that the vandalism troll was already banned from the site at the time of my reading the message.
• Told the user that for a page deletion request, I would need to have confirmation from the original author, rather than hearing it secondhand from someone else.

Keep an eye on, I guess. They seem to want to help, but more for the having authority part of staff duties rather than the helping the community part.

Re: Disciplinary - Crocket_Lawnchair

Zyn 07 Oct 2018 20:52

Noting that per recent edits, they've posted their Halloween contest tale to the mainsite, and subsequently taken it down. I've made note of this in their draft thread: http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-7824310/you-can-crit-this-but-only-if-you-can-handle-some-major-spoo#post-4017158

Also, people who looked at the user's sandbox noted that it contains the text "Edit: Yoshipussy big gay hahahahaha", seemingly apropos of nothing.

Keep an eye on.

Re: Disciplinary - Crocket_Lawnchair

taylor_itkin 10 Oct 2018 14:39

Necropost here: http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-243630/doo-be-do-be-dooooo#post-4013475

EDIT: So, I checked with SSSC first before staffposting this just to be sure and got an okay from multiple people. However, afterwords, procy brought up a good point:

10:41 AM <CrocutaCrocuta> I'm… not sure that is technically a necropost under our current rules.
10:41 AM <CrocutaCrocuta> It technically contributes to discussion and adds content.

This is probably going to need its own thread but I’d say, given that the thread is a decade old, that the rules might need to be appended to be clearer on what necroposting is, especially since afterward all of us in SSSC agreed that it was, indeed, necroposting.

Edit 2: in fact, I’ve an idea that I once again ran bu sssc and have come to the conclusion should be proposed - I’ll put one up in a little while forget that I realized some major flaws in it

Last edited on 10 Oct 2018 22:28 by taylor_itkin Show more

Re: Disciplinary - Crocket_Lawnchair

ProcyonLotor 10 Oct 2018 14:47

the rules might need to be appended to be clearer on what necroposting is

To clarify, I am very much in support of this.