Disciplinary - Fishmonger

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Fishmonger

DrClef 10 Feb 2010 00:50

http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/interview-228-gevurah/comments/show

Fishmonger writes a new story.

Yoric responds thusly and downvotes:

I just find the idea of a keter class SCP becoming something intentionally cute within canon anathemic to my view of the site.

Fishmonger responds with this level-headed rebuttal.

yoric your girlfriend told you to vote this down and you're not going to pull any horseshit over on me, so just come out and say it already.

Also, she's not intentionally cute. She's accidentally cute. She's intentionally refitted, and this is as usual part of a longer story arc which has been planned for quite a while. You don't like it, fine, vote however you lie, but I don't want to hear anymore goddamn "hey Fish when are you going to finish X" because the answer is immediately after you get done kissing my ass.

Fishmonger's comment will be removed and he will be warned about inflammatory behavior.

Re: Fishmonger

tunedtoadeadchannel 10 Feb 2010 00:56

Former Pastebin Link

Fishmonger I damn diddly sight know you only downvoted that inteview because your cunt girlfriend told you to
18:10 Fishmonger Little goddamn pussy-whipped bitch
18:10 Fishmonger You have made an enemy today

Actually, fuck pastebin. It's three lines.

Fishmonger I damn diddly sight know you only downvoted that inteview because your cunt girlfriend told you to
18:10 Fishmonger Little goddamn pussy-whipped bitch
18:10 Fishmonger You have made an enemy today

Fish won't give two fucks about a warning. He's been getting away with everything he wants for as long as anyone can remember. Right now, I'm fucking furious, and there's absolutely fuck all I can do about it, because I am aware that I am incapable of operating without bias in this situation. This is me asking you guys for help.

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Re: Fishmonger

Sophia Light 10 Feb 2010 01:36

…Wow.
Is Fish still a mod?
I would vote for changing that quickly.

Re: Fishmonger

snorlison 10 Feb 2010 01:59

Fishmonger has often gotten a pass on behavior because of his contributions as an author. The fact that he brought this up in the inflammatory actions indicates he is aware of this special status and this is most definitely not the first time he has actively used it.

A vigorous, even insulting, return from Fishmonger is something I would've been okay with. In this instance he crossed a personally abusive line, and crossing that line is something we've definitely knocked yoric for in the past.

I'm not sure of the appropriate response to this, but my feeling is that some action is warranted. At the very least, this incident should be noted and remembered the next time Fishmonger, or anyone really, crosses the line into overtly personal and sensitive insults because they feel that have a special status.

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Re: Fishmonger

tunedtoadeadchannel 10 Feb 2010 02:09

A quote from castling.

You will even walk among them in their places as one of them, immune to their rules and punishments, but they will not recognize you.

Spoken to the fishmonger, about the Foundation, by Jesus.

I feel that this snippet of fiction expresses perfectly Fishmonger's feelings about our site IRL. He's held himself above punishment for a long time. He thinks himself better than the rest of us, and treats other users accordingly. At first, I thought it was a schtick, that he was a nice guy with a snarky sense of humor. I liked fish. Lately, though, culminating in shit today that made the issue very personal to me, I've slowly come to realise he's not kidding.

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Re: Fishmonger

Bouncl 10 Feb 2010 02:50

I thought about this for a bit, and I firmly believe that something more than a warning needs to be given out. I feel that he needs to be told clearly that he is not a special little star, and either put on severe probation, blocked from the site, or tempbanned. This sort of behavior is out of line, and definitely not something that we need to encourage or let slide. Simply warning him will encourage him to believe that he is above retribution.

Re: Fishmonger

Pair Of Ducks 10 Feb 2010 03:49

I agree with Imants.

I know he's getting tempbanned from chat, at the very very least :)

Re: Fishmonger

tunedtoadeadchannel 10 Feb 2010 03:54

In response to clef's warning, he…

http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-217777/interview-228-gevurah#post-695947

It just…

…so yeh. Fish thinks his shit doesn't stink.

Re: Fishmonger

Waxx 10 Feb 2010 04:03

I've deleted the post entirely, here is a log of it as it was before deletion:

The Fishmonger 9 Feb 2010, 19:42 -0-500

EDIT: This post was deleted for inflammatory content. Fish, consider this your warning.

- Clef

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The Fishmonger 9 Feb 2010, 22:44 -0-500

Oh, give me a break. Wah wah, the widdle babies can't handle some nasty words.

Crack Lobster 9 Feb 2010, 22:54 -0-500

hi. this is crack lobster. you know, yoric's 'cunt girlfriend'?

i didn't tell him to downvote this. i didn't tell him to do anything. lay off.
Last edited on 9 Feb 2010, 22:59 -0-500 By Crack Lobster

Re: Fishmonger

DrClef 10 Feb 2010 04:43

My official position is now that Fishmonger needs to be permabanned. We cannot allow a user, no matter how well he writes, to talk back to mods in that manner.

We talked it over, and we've agreed to an eight week ban. If he comes back acting like a douche again, he gets a permaban. In addition, Fishmonger is to be stripped of his modhood and will never be allowed to have it back. Paradox will handle the chat situation.

Waxx has volunteered to carry out the ban: we've given him temporary admin powers so that he can ban Fish from the wiki if need be. There is also a motion to make him a permanent admin, but that's a different issue.

The record of the chat is here:

pastebin.ca/1792231
pastebin.ca/1792235
pastebin.ca/1792239

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Re: Fishmonger

Dr Gears 10 Feb 2010 12:13

I appear to be late to the party here, and for that I apologize. Let me catch up as quickly as I can…

Fish is a fowl-mouthed, wretched, petty man who breathes cruelty and shits suffering. That being said, he is one of the best writers we have, and therefore we have dealt with this rubbish continuously for some time. Much like a atomic scientist who insists on having hookers for assistants, we have complied with his eccentricities due to the demand for his work.

However, this has gotten out of hand. Kondraki was slapped for less then this, and at least pretended to be contrite at times. Fishmonger seems to be under the impression that his body of work exempts him from any and all rules, but that is just not so. Yes, his work is good…but this is not the old days. The talent pool has deepened, and like Kondraki, Fishmonger is not as vital for our existence as he used to be.

I support the proposed actions, even knowing that Fish will most likely not come back, or not change in the slightest. It pains me to see this happen, but this has been in the wings for ages. Fish has had ample time to change or at least prepare. He may be under the impression that he is vital to us, but nothing he can do for this site excuses this nonsense. Throw the book at him, if he barks, tell him to come to me.

Again, please forgive me the lateness on joining this topic.

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