Disciplinary - Kondraki

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Kondraki

AdminBright 24 Jun 2009 06:06

So, log is here pastebin.com/m435dbc13 but, long and short, is that Kondraki took it upon himself to edit peoples Personnel Files for largely arbitrary reasons, without attempting to talk to the users first, or really bringing it up with anyone but whoever was in the chat at the time.

Personally, I find this behavior despicable. We need to work together, not charge in dleeting with out cause or reason. Kondraki continues to do this type of thing, over and over again, and doesn't seem to care what anyone else may think.

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Re: Kondraki

Ekzentric Lohner 24 Jun 2009 06:15

Would it help if we posted some general guidelines for personnel files?

Re: Kondraki

Dr Gears 24 Jun 2009 14:19

Personnel file guidelines might be in order. Maybe not set rules, but some tips to help keep the new folks on track.

That being said, this is…unsettling behavior. What's more, from looking at the log, these decisions were made with little/no involvement by other staff. These were not issues that were so large and detrimental to the site as to require a unilateral strike. All these edits could have been suggested first, then if the users refused, additional steps could be taken…

I want to be surprised by this. I really do. However, i am not. I'm generally a very tolerant person, but this is getting to be too much. Doing the right thing (in this case, cleaning up pages) for the wrong reasons is still wrong. I, and i'm sure others here, have spoken to Kondraki about this sort of thing before. At great length.

What was the last big incident? The one where Kondraki was given one more chance to not freak out and go rogue again? This may be over that last chance…then again, i am badly frustrated, and may have a bias. What is the opinion: Are Bright and I having a knee-jerk reaction, or is this the last straw?

Re: Kondraki

AdminBright 24 Jun 2009 15:18

I don't think it's over the line. We've given him one last chance. And one last chance. And just one more one last chance….and each time, he starts out fine, and then ends up doing something to completely abuse his power.

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Re: Kondraki

DrClef 24 Jun 2009 16:26

Revoke his adminship and modship and give him a 24 hour ban. Tell him he can come back as a regular user.

Re: Kondraki

AdminBright 24 Jun 2009 16:37

Kondraki has been removed from Senior Staff. Also, we are asking for a 3 month ban on any requests or discussions of returning him to mod or adminship.

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Re: Kondraki

Dr Gears 24 Jun 2009 16:50

The notice sent to Kondraki:

Kondraki,

As of today, you are no longer an admin or mod of the SCP Foundation Wiki. No revocation or appeals on this reduction in rights will be heard for a period of no less then three months, at which time you may request a review, which will be based on your behavior during this time. If you wish to discuss the particulars of this decision, please reply to me with your questions.

I truly regret having to do this, however your cycles between good admin/rogue admin are at a point where they can no longer be ignored. I have no doubt whatsoever that your actions are almost always geared toward the greater good of the site, however your tactics are often deplorable and immature. During the last incident, you were told that this was your last "Last Chance", and that further rogue action would end with this outcome. Reviewing the log of your review and editing of the member pages, i am forced to judge that Last Chance violated.

I would hope that you stay on with the site as a user, and prove that you are capable of acting in a calm, mature, and rational fashion for a sustained period of time. This was a decision i had hoped i would not have to make, Kondraki.

With regrets,

Dr. Gears

Re: Kondraki

DrClef 24 Jun 2009 17:34

In order to help you respond to any inquiries about this incident in a professional and balanced nature, this is the "official party line."

Dr. Kondraki was removed from adminship for a series of poor decisions made over several months, and a number of incidents that indicate an unwillingness or inability to work as a team with the other admins and mods.

Of course, feel free to say what you feel is most accurate, but I think it's better not to go into detail to avoid sensationalizing the whole thing.

Re: Kondraki

Dexanote 21 Feb 2012 00:47

Today, Kondraki PM'd me on IRC and requested that I relay a message from him.

http://pastebin.com/ZuPX1rju

His appeal, copypasted from his pastebin. 

Hello again,

It'll be three years this June, three years since I was banned from the #site19 chat and left the wiki. Since I caused the chaos that led to my eventual dismissal as an administrator. While the majority of you weren't there, those who were still remember my mistakes.

Some of you might be expecting me to attempt to excuse these mistakes, or attempt to defame those who brought charges against me, in an attempt to ameleorate my own guilt. I did not write this with either of those things in mind, however, because to do so would be dishonest. I did those things, and I was punished for them. My goal however, with this appeal, is not to explain away my crimes, but to simply ask for a second look upon the perpetrator.

Three years is a very long time when placed within the transition from high school to college, from the easy wins and passing grades to a world where things now mattered, and a lack of attention or seriousness could lend towards actual consequences. Simply put, the me that you banned is gone, lost to that moment in time that exists now only in the minds of those who remain resolute on maintaining my ban. I can only imagine that you may still see me as that immature child, who may cause the same problems that you banished me for in the first place, but I ask you to simply take a second look.

While I was never banned from the Wiki, I never posted again after being removed from the chat. This was a simple decision for me, one that hasn't changed since I first made it. The reason is clear: being part of the official chat is an integral part of the creative experience here. I suggested a chat in the first place as a way to better communicate, to more efficiently work together, and to this day it serves this function. So, this appeal is not for my access to the wiki, but to be given the right to once again speak freely amongst the community I once belonged to.

So in conclusion, I would like to state my purpose once more in clarity. I wish to return to SCP, and one again provide content as I once did. Unlike some others who have also departed, I left my work to your hands once I was gone, knowing that it was part of something greater. All I ask is a chance to once again be part of the ever evolving universe that I once so fervently contributed to.

Sincerely,

Dr. Kondraki.

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I have no feelings either way on the subject; the only things I have heard about him are secondhand hearsay. While I don't refute or disbelieve any of it, I wasn't exactly present to form a legitimate opinion.

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Re: Kondraki

Communism will win 21 Feb 2012 01:27

I have no feelings either way on the subject; the only things I have heard about him are secondhand hearsay. While I don't refute or disbelieve any of it, I wasn't exactly present to form a legitimate opinion.

This essentially summarizes my feelings as well. That being said, I'm generally open to giving second chances, so my (uninformed) opinion is that a provisional unbanning from chat would be reasonable.

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Re: Kondraki

thedeadlymoose 21 Feb 2012 01:28

Echoing Scantron's echo of Dexanote.

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Pig_catapult 21 Feb 2012 01:28

Well, I play Minecraft with him and he seems like a nice enough guy. And a few years can really change a person. I say we give him a chance.

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Re: Kondraki

Sophia Light 21 Feb 2012 02:40

(Damn, it's been three years.)

Yes, I am fine with unbanning him (given Heiden's provision, I think.) The fact that he cares enough to still want to return, plus what he wrote, is enough for me.

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Heiden 21 Feb 2012 01:33

3-year chat ban seems like a reasonable punishment for the actions he was disciplined for. Recommend unbanning, but with the provision that no matter how reformed he seems, he not be considered for a senior staff, moderator, or administration position.

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Photosynthetic 21 Feb 2012 02:59

I also believe in second chances. Let's give the guy another shot.

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DrEverettMann 21 Feb 2012 05:53

I agree. Three years, he's had time to mature a bit. We'll keep an eye on him.

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