InputNutria

Summary:

Ignoring received crit, pestering reviewers, wasting reviewer's time

InputNutria

Marceline_Raynes 13 Feb 2023 03:29

User Input Nutria has received a 24 hour ban from the IRC channel, #thecritters, for their consistent pestering of reviewers to critique their work, repeated ignoring or disregarding reviewer critique (multiple people have given them the same exact critique without significant changes to the draft), and generally wasting reviewer's time.

+From Today

Mew. would you like to look at the changes to my article? I made sure to improve. http://scp-sandbox-3.wikidot.com/input-nutria

2:44 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
I’m doing something right now

2:45 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok, lemme know when you're done.

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4:54 PM <RumenVerbin> The Lounge User
Is anyone here?

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4:57 PM <•Marcy> Marcelles_Raynes
Not right now it seems

4:57 PM
Slow day

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6:10 PM <Arkan1> The Lounge User
looking for someone to look over my greenlight post and my sandbox draft 1.2k words

6:10 PM
greenlight post: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-15622689/seeking-greenlight-frozen-over#post-5971032

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sandbox draft: http://scp-sandbox-3.wikidot.com/arkan

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6:34 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Arkan1 no one's gonna look it's a slow day.

6:34 PM
It might take a while for someone to look.

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8:46 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
InputNutria: hi! After I finish eating I can finally look at your draft

8:46 PM
You just keep catching me at bad times

8:48 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
sorry

8:48 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
No it’s okay!

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8:49 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
Last night I wasn’t in a crit mood and you got me when I was eating and earlier I was doing craft stuff

8:49 PM
Just link it to me

8:49 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok

8:49 PM
http://scp-sandbox-3.wikidot.com/input-nutria

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8:57 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
alright, done eating, ill take a look now

8:59 PM

SCP-XXXX must be guarded by foundation field agents

9:00 PM
if it were just me, I'd list the exact mtf

9:00 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Well which MTF would guard it?

9:02 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
let me find the mtf list

9:02 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
k

9:02 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/task-forces

9:02 PM
here, look through this

9:02 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
k

9:03 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better

SCP-XXXX is a middle school labeled Redmond middle school,

9:03 PM
id rephrase

9:03 PM

SCP-XXXX is Redmond Middle School located in Victoria, British Columbia, Canada.

9:04 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
K

9:04 PM
just let me find the perfect MTF

9:05 PM
which one would be appropriate?

9:06 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
I dont know too much about mtfs, Id look through one that you think works

9:07 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok, I think the maz hatters are the ones to contain SCP-XXXX

9:07 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
alright

9:08 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok

9:08 PM
Now what?

9:11 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
sorry im jumping from here and discord since I was sorting some stuff out

9:11 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
K

9:11 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
getting back to your draft, apologies

9:12 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
K

9:12 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better

will trigger an event inside it that causes it to release toxins of SCP-XXXX-1.

9:12 PM
id rephrase

9:12 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
?

9:12 PM
to what?

9:12 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
give me a moment

9:12 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok

9:12 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
I cant rephrase in one second

9:13 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
sorry

9:13 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
hold on looking back,

9:13 PM

The school itself doesn't appear to possess any anomalous properties.

9:14 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok

9:14 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
I wouldn't state this

9:14 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
The last people keep telling me to and not state this

9:14 PM
WHAT DO I DO

9:14 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
well I guess it depends on the individual

9:14 PM
which has been told to you more?

9:15 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
I've been told that since the gas comes from the school, the school is the main anomaly.

9:15 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
it is

9:15 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
on the other hand, the school doesn't do anything anomalous

9:15 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
the school is inherently anomalous

9:15 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
and on the other hand,

9:15 PM
at the end,

9:15 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
it doesnt, but it harbors an Anomaly

9:15 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
it's revealed the gas is anomalous because of the kid.

9:15 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
I suppose you could keep that in if you'd like

9:15 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
the school itself didn't create the anomaly.

9:15 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
anyway, back to rephrasing

9:15 PM
yeah I see

9:16 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
That's like saying the hotel that stores scp-031 is scp-031

9:16 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better

However, those who enter XXXX will trigger an event inside it that causes it to release a gas that causes those who are infected with it to sneeze uncontrollably (designated SCP-XXXX-1) [continue sentence]

9:16 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok

9:18 PM <•Marcy> Marcelles_Raynes
👁️

9:18 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Gtg now I ran out of time

9:18 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
oh okay

9:18 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
we can continue tomorrow.

+From yesterday

Mars. wanna look at the newly updated SCP article? http://scp-sandbox-3.wikidot.com/input-nutria

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2:54 PM <Hydric> The Lounge User
seeking greenlight/crit: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-15610554/humanity-preserved#post-5965748

2:54 PM
seeking crit/review: https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-15562481/hykjeberget-nature-reserve#post-5878294

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4:49 PM <CaesarKuznetsov> http://www.mibbit.com
good morning!

4:49 PM
anyone available to crit an idea article?

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5:08 PM <CaesarKuznetsov> http://www.mibbit.com
anyone available to crit an idea article?

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5:50 PM <•Mooagain> The Lounge User
Paste a link to your thread and if anyone's around to check it out, they will

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6:42 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Hey Moo, wanna look at my sandbox article? http://scp-sandbox-3.wikidot.com/input-nutria

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7:17 PM <•Mooagain> The Lounge User
You don't seem to have improved much. There's a lot of changes but the main problems are all still there, the dialogue is very expositional and the action description doesn't provide much of an atmosphere. The things seen in the school are just listed off with no importance given to them, and the characters also don't seem to react.

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7:20 PM <•Mooagain> The Lounge User
Also I suggest you use some sort of grammar checking tool on this, there's a lot of wrong punctuation and missing capitals

7:22 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
I made sure to fix every grammar mistake, I even used grammarly.

7:24 PM <•Mooagain> The Lounge User
There's a lot of apostrophes where they don't need to be and lowercase letters that should be capitalized

7:25 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok.

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7:30 PM <Anky> The Lounge User
Hey Mooagain would you mind looking at my draft once you're finished with Nutria's? It's 3.4k words. I mainly need help with dialogue and whether the mystery works (tab 2) https://scp-sandbox-3.wikidot.com/ankleswallower

7:32 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Hey Moo, care to highlight the grammar mistakes I made? I made it so Flynn is more reactive like you said.

7:39 PM <•Mooagain> The Lounge User
Anky I'm pretty sure Non-Euclidean just means not a flat surface

7:43 PM
InputNutria I don't really have time to do a full grammar check, I recommend you look for mistakes yourself

7:44 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok…

7:44 PM
I saved it though

7:44 PM
did you read to make sure I corrected some mistakes you noticed?

7:45 PM <Anky> The Lounge User
1. it's the best word for it 2. it just means going against euclidean principles which include spherical geometry afaik

7:47 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok I noticed some grammar errors I'm now fixing, thanks for the heads up Moo.

7:53 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
I might post an article 2.3k if anyone wants a last minute look

7:53 PM
its about a foundation employee in a coma

7:54 PM <Anky> The Lounge User
I'll take a peep

7:54 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Hey Mew! Wanna look at the updated article? I made some grammar fixes. http://scp-sandbox-3.wikidot.com/input-nutria

7:54 PM
and a few changes.

7:55 PM <•Mooagain> The Lounge User
Anky pretty sure Greek needs a capital G

7:55 PM <Anky> The Lounge User
good catch

7:57 PM <•Mooagain> The Lounge User
I don't think redacted for brevity is the right term, I think it should be removed for brevity

7:57 PM
It's not like they're completely unavailable, just no on this page

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8:00 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
InputNutria: not rn

8:00 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
:( Ok.

8:00 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
Anky: me? Ty

8:00 PM
Sorry im eating

8:01 PM
http://kontainer.djkakt.us/the-price-of-glory

8:01 PM <Anky> The Lounge User
right, fixed it

8:05 PM <•Mooagain> The Lounge User
Anky done reading now. This is a fine story. Unfortunately I don't really have much to say about it, I think it works well for what it's trying to do but there's not much here for me.

8:05 PM <Anky> The Lounge User
So personal preferences or do you have anything regarding the story?

8:06 PM <•Mooagain> The Lounge User
I wasn't particularly invested in the stuff that was happening in the notes, but I just don't think journal entries are a good way to convey this sort of setting.

8:07 PM
The earlier bits with the exploration log were fun, but everything after that felt pretty neutral.

8:07 PM
It's not bad, but it's not good either.

8:07 PM <Anky> The Lounge User
funny, most people said they enjoyed the journals but were less interested in the exploration log

8:08 PM <•Mooagain> The Lounge User
I suppose that comes down to personal taste

8:09 PM <Anky> The Lounge User
I might ask one more person before I post it

8:11 PM
Mew-ltiverse Just finished reading it, I liked it, definitely going to upvote it once you post it

8:11 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
thank you!

8:16 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Now do you wanna take a look mew? http://scp-sandbox-3.wikidot.com/input-nutria

8:17 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
not right now

8:17 PM
maybe tomorrow or later today

8:18 PM <•Mooagain> The Lounge User
InputNutria it hasn't even been 20 minutes, please stop pestering people who've already told you no.

8:18 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Sorry. :(

8:18 PM
Well you said not rn, and you finished with someone else. I thought you meant later today.

8:18 PM
Sorry, huge misunderstanding.

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8:19 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
I said not rn because I was a eating and b dont feel like it rn

8:19 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
srry

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8:19 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
pls forgive me

8:19 PM <•Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
its fine

8:19 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
Thanks

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~ M.D.R.

Re: InputNutria

Mew-ltiverse 22 May 2023 21:38

The following was made with Naepic's permission

Input Nutria has continued to repetitively ignore critter advice and act pushy and rude when being critiqued.

From May 17th

<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Anyone wanna read about a 1,361 word long article about a man who absorbs everything he touches?

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4:37 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
OOP

4:37 PM
Forgot to link.

4:37 PM
sorry.

4:37 PM
http://scp-sandbox-3.wikidot.com/input

4:37 PM
Here we go.

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5:21 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
InputNutria: I've seen you link this draft several times, receiving crit many times, with very little changes

5:21 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I know

5:21 PM
Ok

5:21 PM
I just,

5:21 PM
Need you're consent for a change.

5:21 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
it doesnt seem you've really been listening to the advice you've gotten

5:21 PM <+DianaBerry>
many people told you it wouldn't work, including me

5:22 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I have.

5:22 PM <+DianaBerry>
I just read over it to see if you changed anything and everything is the same

5:22 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I didn't get this far just by giving up

5:22 PM
I just need you're feedback on an idea.

5:22 PM <+DianaBerry>
you've like, made grammatical changes but the story remains the same and it won't work

5:22 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I KNOW

5:22 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
stop being rude

5:22 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
That's what I'm trying to tell you.

5:22 PM
I'm sorry.

5:23 PM
Ok, it's just you won't listen to me, I have an idea.

5:23 PM <+DianaBerry>
we are

5:23 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
It's not in the article, I just need it to be greenlight.

5:23 PM <+DianaBerry>
I thought you got greenlights

5:23 PM
you said you did

5:23 PM
someone asked you and you said you did

5:23 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
It is, that's not what I'm talking about.

5:23 PM
It's about a change in the story.

5:23 PM
I have an idea.

5:24 PM <+DianaBerry>
oh you're talking about a different idea

5:24 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
To make it better.

5:24 PM
No,

5:24 PM <+DianaBerry>
okay, I'm listening

5:24 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
It's the same article,

5:24 PM
But with a change.

5:24 PM
I'm asking you to hear me out.

5:24 PM <+DianaBerry>
okay

5:24 PM
but I can't promise I'll like it

5:24 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
you dont need a green light for a change on an idea that has already been greenlit

5:24 PM <+DianaBerry>
because this idea is fundamentally flawed

5:24 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok, so near the end of the article, the SCP realizes why he grew up without a family.

5:25 PM <+DianaBerry>
well so far that doesn't really fix the problem for me but continue

5:25 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
When he was born, his mother was sucked inside out because her son was inside her womb.

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And when the father saw this, he picked him up and got absorbed too.

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And learning this made him burst into tears.

5:26 PM <+DianaBerry>
that's a bit uncomfortable not gonna lie, it could work I guess but it still sticks with the same anomaly

5:26 PM
which doesn't work because it is unoriginal

5:26 PM
the anomaly and story have both been seen before which gives you an article that is unoriginal

5:26 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I really want it to stick. :(

5:26 PM <+DianaBerry>
and the series 1 writing is still here

5:26 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I tried so hard.

5:26 PM <+DianaBerry>
sometimes you can't hold on to an idea

5:27 PM
I've had to give up on ideas

5:27 PM
not every idea is meant to be

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especially first ones

5:27 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
NONE of my ideas are meant to be!

5:27 PM
All my ideas are SERIES 1

5:27 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
dude

5:27 PM <@Naepic> Victor
Calm down.

5:28 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I'm sorry.

5:28 PM <+DianaBerry>
I'll let them handle this

5:28 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I'm just a little worked up on how hard it is to make an article nowadays.

5:28 PM
Especially one that fits the standards of today.

5:29 PM
Back then writing used to be so simple.

5:29 PM <+DianaBerry>
I'm sorry that standards have changed but they have

5:29 PM
yes it was but that was before it was full fledged

5:29 PM <@Naepic> Victor
Times have changed. If SCP stayed as series 1 writing, it would have gotten boring and we wouldn't have the stuff we had today.

5:30 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I mean, I WANT to be able to make an article that fits today/

5:30 PM
.

5:30 PM
Ignore the dash

5:30 PM <+DianaBerry>
you can edit your responses

5:30 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
And I have the right mindset.

5:30 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
only on irc cloud dia

5:30 PM <+DianaBerry>
oh

5:30 PM Z<%Zoobeeny> The Lounge User
DianaBerry: and changes aren't reflected to Lounge users, unfortunately

5:30 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
It's just it's kind of hard to do when you're critics have such high expectations.

5:30 PM <@Naepic> Victor
Okay pause.

5:31 PM
You are seeking the feedback from these "critics."

5:31 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Yes, because it's required.

5:31 PM
Otherwise I can't publish.

5:31 PM <@Naepic> Victor
First, that's wrong.

5:31 PM
You can post onto the mainsite without crit.

5:32 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok, but I need to make sure that it doesn't get downvoted.

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5:32 PM <@Naepic> Victor
Second, this is a volunteer job. Complaining about high standards is not going to get you anywhere, when the alternative is that the reviewer just doesn't look at your thing.

5:34 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Sigh,

5:34 PM
I want to conform. I want to be good.

5:34 PM
It just feels like no matter how hard I try, I'll never be good enough for anyone's standards.

5:34 PM <@Naepic> Victor
Then maybe listen when people tell you something won't work, instead of pressuring them into giving you a greenlight.

5:34 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Everything I come up with is ether horrible, or has already been done.

5:35 PM <@Naepic> Victor
You can't fucking grow and/or learn when you respond with stubbornness.

5:35 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Sigh.

5:35 PM
Ok.

5:35 PM
Ok,

5:35 PM
I'll listen.

5:35 PM
I'm sorry.

5:35 PM
Please, I'll grow.

5:39 PM
I would like you're honest opinion on what I should do.

5:40 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
well, I think you should do as has been suggested to you

5:40 PM
stop being so rude to those who are trying to help you

5:40 PM
and understand that when multiple people do not think an idea will work, that that idea may just not work

5:40 PM <+DianaBerry>
I would try another idea and read more recent pieces

5:41 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
yeah, ask any of us and we would be happy to suggest articles that you can read that are more recent

5:41 PM
and expect some of us to plug lmao, but anything from series four and above

5:42 PM
but especially series five and above

5:42 PM M<%Mooagain> The Lounge User
.s rated pages in

5:42 PM C<+crom> Crom (crom.avn.sh) BOT
Mooagain: Top Rated Pages in the Last 30 Days (+45, written almost 11 years ago by Staff) - http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/top-rated-pages-this-month

5:42 PM M<%Mooagain> The Lounge User
I usually recommend this as a good place to find nice examples

5:42 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
oh yeah that too

5:44 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I already read so many articles.

5:45 PM
It's not that they don't have a good story in my opinion, but that they are too long.

5:45 PM Z<%Zoobeeny> The Lounge User
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/shortest-pages-this-month

5:45 PM M<%Mooagain> The Lounge User
In addition to reading more, it's also important to think about what you read. Consider how the author made to feel things, how they got you invested in the story.

5:45 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Thank you Zoo.

5:45 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
you have to be willing to change your aim as well, its fine to like series 1 but if that is your only inspiration, that probably wont get you very far

5:45 PM M<%Mooagain> The Lounge User
I always forget the search terms for that list

5:45 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
there are a good collection of shorter works that are recent and still work decently well

5:45 PM M<%Mooagain> The Lounge User
Very useful list though

5:46 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Thank you.

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5:46 PM Z<%Zoobeeny> The Lounge User
Mooagain: I just use top rated, then click the link to go to shortest

5:46 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I actually try to conform to the style of those articles.

5:46 PM
I just don't know what I'm doing wrong.

5:47 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
its been a bit since ive read any of your drafts, so ive asked dia to give her advice

5:47 PM <+DianaBerry>
you might not want to try a humanoid as your first piece

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5:47 PM <+DianaBerry>
it can be hard, humanoids are extremely tricky

5:47 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Then what do you suggest?

5:48 PM <+DianaBerry>
many people can do them as their first piece, but not everyone can

5:48 PM
well that's up to you and your writing style

5:48 PM
but reading articles should be the best way to find what interests you

5:48 PM
what type of thing do you want to write

5:48 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I actually made a post a couple weeks ago.

5:48 PM <+DianaBerry>
did it get deleted

5:49 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
About a mask that turns the wearer into a slasher killer.

5:49 PM <+DianaBerry>
see that is also cliche

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and is remnant of the mask

5:49 PM
035

5:49 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
whats 035 about again it might be similar

5:49 PM
SCP-035

5:49 PM C<+crom> Crom (crom.avn.sh) BOT
Mew-ltiverse: SCP-035: Possessive Mask (+1901, written almost 15 years ago by Kain Pathos Crow) - http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-035

5:49 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
That's only a piece of it.

5:49 PM
The mask does not corrode a black substance.

5:50 PM
It is not a tragedy/comedy mask.

5:50 PM <+DianaBerry>
an scp making someone a murderer is kind of a cliche concept

5:50 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
It is a rubber, halloween mask.

5:50 PM <+DianaBerry>
especially if there is no greater story

5:50 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
yeah the mask 035 is very manipulative and sadistic

5:50 PM M<%Mooagain> The Lounge User
Isn't there a movie about that

5:50 PM <+DianaBerry>
the story can't just be the story of the scp

5:50 PM
or a person with a tragic life

5:50 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Basically the mask has been around since the 1930s and the foundation speculate that the mask was the inspiration for the slasher genre.

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5:51 PM <+DianaBerry>
generally there should be a message or a theme in your article

5:51 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
So when a person watches a slasher movie they are watching a recreation of someone getting butchered irl.

5:51 PM
Yes yes, SERIES ONE style article.

5:51 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
dude

5:51 PM <+DianaBerry>
unfortunately I'm not a fan of this idea either

5:51 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
There needs to be a greater message.

5:51 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
stop it, we've asked you to stop being rud

5:51 PM <+DianaBerry>
but sometimes people just aren't going to like your ideas

5:51 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
erude

5:51 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Sorry sorry.

5:51 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
rude

5:51 PM
I can spell

5:52 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I know you can I know you can.

5:52 PM <+DianaBerry>
I don't like series one articles pitched today as most don't

5:52 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
I was joking

5:52 PM
the joke is im bad at spelling

5:52 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Sorry.

5:52 PM
Just stressed.

5:52 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
I say that whenever I make a typo

5:52 PM <+DianaBerry>
you'll be pressed to find a green lighter that is okay with series one ideas

5:52 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Who?

5:53 PM <+DianaBerry>
what im saying is you probably won't

5:53 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Oh.

5:54 PM <+DianaBerry>
you need to update your style if you want to write on the wiki. im sorry you don't like the new standards

5:54 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
It's ok.

5:54 PM
I'll try to think of something.

5:55 PM
I actually did read a couple of recent articles.

5:55 PM
Like 4031

5:55 PM M<%Mooagain> The Lounge User
SCP-4031

5:55 PM C<+crom> Crom (crom.avn.sh) BOT
Mooagain: SCP-4031: The Amnesiac Redemption (+157, written over 4 years ago by Lt Flops) - http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-4031

5:55 PM <InputNutria> The Lounge User
3oh.

5:55 PM
That's the wrong one,

5:55 PM
I forgot what the number one

5:55 PM
was

5:56 PM
it's you're friendly neighborhood keter.

5:56 PM
and scp-3930.

5:56 PM M<%Mooagain> The Lounge User
scp-3930

5:56 PM C<+crom> Crom (crom.avn.sh) BOT
Mooagain: SCP-3930: The Pattern Screamer (+1501, written over 5 years ago by djkaktus) - http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-3930

5:56 PM P<PoufyPoufson> The Lounge User
I wouldn't call 5 years recent

5:57 PM <@Naepic> Victor
I suggest you read material that was written in the past year or two.

5:57 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Hmm….

5:57 PM
Ok.

5:57 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
some series 4 articles still hold up but not all of them

5:57 PM <+DianaBerry>
try series 6-8

5:57 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Sadly that's all the time I have for today sorry.

5:58 PM <+DianaBerry>
alright

https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-15882165/seeking-greenlight-a-different-angle#post-6095579

They continue to ignore critter advice, asking for help again after this post was made without any significant changes made to the post

<InputNutria> The Lounge User Would anyone like to read an SCP article from a different angle? https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-15882165/seeking-greenlight-a-different-angle#post-6095579 at 3:07

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3:28 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
so immediately I would like to combat this sentence:

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3:28 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better

CP articles are from the foundation's perspective, this one is from the perspective of the SCP.

3:28 PM
SCP sorry

3:28 PM
anyway

3:28 PM
SCP-7345

3:28 PM C<+crom> Crom (crom.avn.sh) BOT
Mew-ltiverse: SCP-7345: Important, Attention Stealing Title! (+70, written about 2 months ago by TroutMaskReplica) - http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-7345

3:28 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
SCP-4787

3:28 PM C<+crom> Crom (crom.avn.sh) BOT
Mew-ltiverse: SCP-4787: The Things He Wished He'd Known (+15, written over 3 years ago by Mew-ltiverse) - http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-4787

3:28 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
.s lonely echo

3:28 PM C<+crom> Crom (crom.avn.sh) BOT
Mew-ltiverse: SCP-5722: Lonely Echoes in Footnotes (+77, rewritten 10 months ago by Tstaffor) - http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-5722

3:29 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
that one is more of a technicality but still

3:30 PM
it is not inherently interesting that the article is from the scp's perspective

3:31 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok, but it is set up to make it look like it's from a humans perspective, then as time goes on we realize it's from the perspective of an SCP they are trying to contain.

3:32 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
may I point you back to 7345

3:32 PM <+DianaBerry>
oh hi I crit that idea

3:32 PM
link me I'll read your feedback

3:32 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-15882165/seeking-greenlight-a-different-angle#post-6095579

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3:34 PM <+DianaBerry>
InputNutria: I still stand by my critique

3:35 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I'm sorry,

3:35 PM
I'm so sorry.

3:36 PM <+DianaBerry>
yet you're still getting moody

3:36 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I'm not.

3:37 PM <+DianaBerry>
you are, but it's okay

3:37 PM <%Mew-ltiverse> Basil Hallward Deserved Better
you are

3:37 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I'm just trying to defend my post.

3:37 PM <+DianaBerry>
you just seem upset that I dislike your idea

3:37 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
It's not that.

3:37 PM <+DianaBerry>
you don't need to defend it

3:37 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok.

3:37 PM <+DianaBerry>
defend it makes it sound like I'm attacking you

3:37 PM
which I'm not

3:37 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I just try to come up with new and interesting ideas.

3:38 PM
But no matter what I come up with, it always gets shut down.

3:38 PM
I just feel that I'll never be good enough for this wiki.

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3:38 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Or at least, anyone's standards here.

3:38 PM
I'm sorry if I sound all worked up.

3:38 PM
I just try so hard,

3:39 PM
and I do read articles past series one.

3:39 PM <@Naepic> Victor
Alright, stop.

3:39 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
I do get inspiration from recent articles.

3:39 PM <@Naepic> Victor
This is like the third time I've popped into the channel and seen this sort of conversation go down.

3:41 PM
At some point, you need to ask yourself: am I genuinely looking for criticism, or am I only looking to hear what I want?

3:41 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok ok,

3:41 PM <@Naepic> Victor
No, not okay.

3:41 PM
Listen.

3:41 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
It's just that I'm looking for criticism that will help me improve my article.

3:42 PM
Not to shut it down all together.

3:42 PM
Because it's already been used or something.

3:42 PM <@Naepic> Victor
InputNutria: I will not repeat myself. Stop talking for a second, and listen.

3:44 PM
If someone tells you that this is difficult for a new writer to handle, maybe consider the fact that Diana has seen a lot of new writers like yourself.

3:44 PM
Maybe consider that you are not the only new writer attempting to write for the wiki.

3:45 PM
Not everyone gets something to stick the first time. And not everybody is the same

3:45 PM
You have writers like TRutherford who can crank out something incredible as their first article

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You have other writers who take weeks, if not months to do the same.

3:46 PM
Wallowing in self-pity like this, especially multiple times, does you no good, and wastes both Mew and Diana's time in attempting to help you.

3:46 PM
Because you block it out by complaining about the standards and difficulty of the wiki's writing.

3:47 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Ok, I understand. I don't mean to sound rude.

3:47 PM
You told me that this is difficult for new writers to handle yes?

3:47 PM <@Naepic> Victor
If I come in here again and see you repeating the same behaviors, you will be banned from this channel.

3:47 PM
Do I make myself clear?

3:47 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Yes.

3:47 PM <@Naepic> Victor
Alright. Carry on.

3:48 PM I<InputNutria> The Lounge User
Nevermind.

If they do this again, they will receive a week long ban (confirmed by Naepic)