Disciplinary - SerpentsLeg

Summary:

Calling for a downvote brigade

Disciplinary - SerpentsLeg

MalyceGraves 02 Mar 2021 20:00

SerpentsLeg (W: 54d |S: 48d) recently called for a downvote brigade: http://scp-ru.wikidot.com/forum/t-14016862/sandbox:scp-5665#post-4914836

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Original text:

Расчехляйте минусомёты, это должно попасть в топ-10 самых заминусованных статей.

Как я понял, это было написано для JamCon 2020.

Автор - gee0765.

Machine Translation:

Uncover minuses, it should get into the top 10 most minus articles.

As I understand it, this was written for JamCon 2020.

Author - gee0765.

Contextual translation provided by TSAT:

Unholster your downvote machine guns. Time to induct this one into the Most Downvoted Articles Ever hall of fame.

In addition to that, the user has been rather vehement in their comments on the original -EN version of the article: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-5665

Specifically:

What a stupid joke. Okay, humor is subjective. But it's obviously a joke. Where's -J postfix?
No way I can upvote it. -1

In the time since that comment was posted, the original has dropped -14, with a majority of those downvotes coming from users who are also members of the Russian branch.

To me, this is a clear violation of the Site Rules on Brigading:

Brigading: Calling for group downvoting (or group upvoting) of an article is strictly against the rules.

Recommending immediate revoke and perma for malicious downvoting and calling for a brigade.

Re: Disciplinary - SerpentsLeg

DrEverettMann 02 Mar 2021 22:20

I received the following from SerpentsLeg in #site17.

<SerpentsLeg> The Lounge User DrMann
3:13 PM First of all, I want to say, that there's some different in the sense of humor between RU and EN branches. You can see it here:
3:13 PM https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/170860185328418816/816408006379700224/unknown.png
3:13 PM So, as you can see, people on the Russian Branch sometimes can't understand, how some articles was upvoted on their original sites. Users can translate those articles knowing they would be downvoted. It's okay and there's nothing wrong with it I think. For example:
3:13 PM https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/170860185328418816/816415470718156851/unknown.png (1)
3:13 PM https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816424200520335373/816426914394669157/unknown.png (2)
3:13 PM https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/816424200520335373/816426031162196059/unknown.png (3)
3:14 PM <SerpentsLeg> The Lounge User I joined the site for 1 month ago as a translator. And when I saw the disscusion on the pic (1), I thought "Hey, I'm the new translator, I need to do something like that once". Like sports interest. And then I was looking for atricle to translate and found 5665.
3:14 PM I was just like "This is what most of the people on the RU branch would downvote". So I translated it to see, how many downvotes can I get. And the first message in the discussion of translation was this (actually, not this, but it's how administrator understood this, and that's right):
3:14 PM https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/170860185328418816/816410199757029376/unknown.png
3:14 PM So, of course I was talking about ours "hall of fame". But some people go on the original article and downvoted it too. I just want to say that I didn't want them to do it, but I understand that there's my fault. I'm sorry for this incident and want to say that I wasn't have any harm intent. I can promise something like that won't happen again.
3:14 PM Woah
3:14 PM That's all

If this was their intent, it becomes somewhat less malicious. I'd still call for at least a short ban, since their actions *did* lead to downvotes on -EN. That said, I'd like to see if someone in INT can talk to the staff on -RU to see if this sounds right to them or not.

Re: Disciplinary - SerpentsLeg

MalyceGraves 02 Mar 2021 22:34

I agree that it does not appear to be malicious. That being said, the -EN version of that article did suffer from this, and it should be clear that actions have consequences.

As I gave the original recommendation of a perma, I am fine with commuting this to a weeklong.

Re: Disciplinary - SerpentsLeg

MalyceGraves 03 Mar 2021 04:51

Noting that additional information has been added:

23:46 → ZZYZX joined (PI.871.151.89h.1th-PCS|XZYZZ#PI.871.151.89h.1th-PCS|XZYZZ)
23:47 <ZZYZX> @ MalyceGraves DrMann — saw this recently: http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-14017085/disciplinary-serpentsleg, have some input
23:47 tbf the only thing this person did wrong is translating the article
23:47 which then attracted some attention from russians
23:48 When he wrote on scp-ru Discord that he translated an object and would like to see how far it goes in the negative rating, it was actually me who said that we should not downvote translator's job
23:48 and that if the article is bad, I'd rather downvote the original, which I did
23:48 So anything that could happen is probably because of me and not the person in question
23:49 <•MalyceGraves> ZZYZX: Hello. I will point out that the final decision on what will happen on the -EN side hasn't been made yet, so I will gladly share your input with the rest of the Disc committee.
23:49 Thank you.
23:49 <ZZYZX> So you could just as well ban me (jewalky at wikidot), though I'd honestly not do witch hunting here, because it was an one-time spike thanks to a lot of people actually noticing the article, not a directed/biased attack

Re: Disciplinary - SerpentsLeg

Tuomey Tombstone 05 Mar 2021 01:29

Seconding Malyce

Re: Disciplinary - SerpentsLeg

DrEverettMann 05 Mar 2021 02:01

Member has been banned for one week. The following PM has been sent:

SerpentsLeg,

After considering all the facts and discussing it both among members of Disciplinary as well as our representatives on -INT, we feel that your intention was not malicious. However, regardless of your intentions, it did result in a downvote brigade. We cannot allow that behavior to go unpunished, or else others may repeat it, possibly with the intention of downvote brigading. In light of both your contrition and recognition of your actions, it will be a short ban of one week. On 11 March, 2021, you may re-apply. If your ban has not been lifted at that time, please contact myself or another administrator.

Yours,
Dr. Mann