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User attempted to obtain feedback in critters but proceeded to act with a severe lack of maturity that was required. Appeal in 17 also demonstrated a lack of maturity necessary for being a part of chat. Maturity banned from 19/critters for 1 year.
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[13:50] Mars Zoobeeny: Thank you for saying that, I was going to but I was leaving some forum crit
[13:51] boop_xyz Anyone want a review an SCP I made?
[13:51] Mars War_: I’m gonna be real with you when I say this
[13:52] War_ i s2g if its just robocop-
[13:52] Mars This is pretty much
[13:52] Mars Yeah
[13:52] Mars I’m really sorry
[13:52] War_ ive never even seen it how the fuck
[13:52] War_ sigh
[13:52] War_ yeah i got nothing then.
[13:52] boop_xyz War_ keep on trying man
[13:52] Mars I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to rain on your parade
[13:53] War_ please don't tell me to keep trying, ive been trying to write something for years lol.
[13:53] boop_xyz War_ I have been on these forums since I was 11
[13:53] boop_xyz even thought I wasn't supposed to be
[13:53] boop_xyz though*
[13:53] boop_xyz I wrote SCP articles that got -30 rep
[13:54] Mars War_: We can collab on something if you want!
[13:54] boop_xyz but I wrote my first article since then because I thought I would never be able to make an SCP
[13:54] Mars I am known to write things
[13:54] War_ i dont really want to do a collab on this because my characters are too important to me to let anyone else touch them
[13:54] Mars That’s a mood
[13:54] boop_xyz Mars wanna check out my scp?
[13:55] War_ would've been nice if someone on greenlight had mentioned 'this is basically robocop'
[13:55] Mars Alright well, feel free to ping me whenever you got something friend. I’m (almost) always available
[13:55] War_ why the fuck do i have this habit of making things that end up being like something ive never seen before lmfao.
[13:55] Duban Mine as well please.
[13:55] boop_xyz Duban I'll look at it
[13:56] War_ idk what to do now.
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[13:56] War_ like i really don't.
[13:56] Mars War_: Yo, literally my first Idea post was about these robots I called Mekhanites before I knew about the cotbg
[13:56] Duban http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13993598/scp-greenlight:a-parrot-that-mimics-the-effects-of-the-sound
[13:56] Duban since you weren't here when I linked it.
[13:56] Zoobeeny War_: Do you have a concept thread? I'd like to see it.
[13:56] KatherineMonroe I'm looking for someone who would be interested in checking out my SCP idea. Also, this is an major edit, I changed the idea A LOT, and so far no one sent feedback based on the edited version.
[13:56] KatherineMonroe http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13990132/scp-xxxx-the-scarlet-angels-seeking-greenlight#
[13:56] Mars I’d say write it anyway honestly
[13:57] Mars You’re skilled enough to make it it’s own thing, plus I can then try to convince you to set it in my canon
[13:57] War_ http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13990764/ghosteater:reimagined#post-4885571
[13:57] War_ don't let my account age fool you; ive been here for a long ass time
[13:57] Duban I agree with mars. It could be interesting if it were well written and interesting. At worst, it migh thelp you practice for the future.
[13:57] boop_xyz Duban: looking over it briefly, it's interesting. I like the idea of it and would like to see it as an SCP.
[13:57] War_ i know how the writing game works i literally used to be crit team here, ive seen many terrible and good drafts come and go
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[13:58] boop_xyz if anyone wants to check my SCP out: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-5164
[13:58] War_ knew it was a dumb idea to get attached to characters when any attempts at a narrative keeps falling through lmfao
[13:59] ocuin <boop_xyz> War_ I have been on these forums since I was 11
[13:59] ocuin boop_xyz: Was this on a different account from your current one?
[13:59] boop_xyz ?
[13:59] boop_xyz oh yes
[13:59] boop_xyz cause after I wrote an article
[13:59] boop_xyz I found out that I had to be 16
[14:00] boop_xyz and forgot about it for 5 years
[14:00] boop_xyz and decided to just make a new account with a fresh start
[14:00] ocuin What was your old account's username?
[14:00] boop_xyz I forgot
[14:01] Zoobeeny War_: While I am not familiar with Robocop, I don't believe it utilizes neural hacking as a concept. Next, as a mystery, it depends on your execution obviously, so your ending could be vastly different from whatever ending is in Robocop.
[14:01] Zoobeeny If you were on Crit Team, then you should know that there is no such thing as a truly original idea.
[14:01] ocuin boop_xyz: I see, and how old are you now?
[14:01] War_ i am very well aware but it's a standard im incapable of holding myself to
[14:01] War_ i dont like when people go 'this reminds me of x'
[14:02] boop_xyz ocuin 16 now
[14:02] Zoobeeny War_: Ah. Then why do you write? At some point, people are going to say "this reminds me of x" regardless of what you write.
[14:02] War_ Because I've never written for the site before and i want to get my name out there as a creator beyond my drawings?
[14:03] War_ never successfully written, even.
[14:03] boop_xyz War_ same
[14:03] Mars Wait really War_ ?
[14:03] ocuin boop_xyz: Alright, thank you
[14:03] Zoobeeny War_: Then, I'm going to be blunt here, but drop your standards. If you refuse to allow any piece of writing that reminds someone of something else, you will never have anything written.
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[14:03] Mars I honestly wouldn’t have guessed
[14:03] War_ 4 and a half years. no articles. dunno why that surprises people tbh
[14:04] War_ Zoobeeny: I mean the standards of the site since I first joined have skyrocketed, I don't feel like I have a choice but to hold myself to these standards
[14:04] War_ especially with tales. tales are almost always never as successful as their scp article counterparts
[14:05] Zoobeeny Tales are only less successful because less people read them, so that's an unfair comparison.
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[14:05] Mars Goi formats aren’t even considered for the comparison
[14:05] Mars cries in broken god holy writ
[14:05] War_ more reason to make something that needs to really stand out for people to read it more
[14:05] Zoobeeny I don't remember the last time someone made a Prometheus Lab format
[14:06] Zoobeeny War_: Having standards is good, but requiring your first piece to be something incredible is just going to burn you out.
[14:06] boop_xyz my first piece already has -1 rep
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[14:07] War_ point is its pretty frustrating moreover offputting for people go go 'this is basically x' because like. well a) high chance ive never seen x but b) just makes me realise i didnt really have anything when i thought i had something, ya know?
[14:07] boop_xyz dances while tears stream down
[14:07] Savan boop_xyz: did you seek critique on your article before posting?
[14:07] Mars Zoobeeny: I’m literally writing a PL format haha
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[14:09] boop_xyz Savan I tried but I sort of wrote it before posting on the Idea's thing. Then I can't post my draft cause of the "green light" rule
[14:09] Zoobeeny War_: Then change the idea. You can't just come up with an idea, put it up, hear someone say that, then decide there's nothing to be done for this now. Your idea was greenlit because it had potential. Don't break yourself down because it's similar to something else. Take that in stride and subvert expectations.
[14:09] Zoobeeny Mars: Ooo, I might read that when it comes out
[14:09] War_ this is the second time ive done this
[14:09] Zoobeeny boop_xyz: That might be why your article is at -1.
[14:09] ocuin boop_xyz: It may be worth going through the greenlighting system first then
[14:10] ocuin The purpose of it is to ensure the underlying concept of your article is solid, and getting critique on your concept is an essential part of writing a first article
[14:10] boop_xyz I am aware of that now
[14:10] War_ the idea's already changed cause in the first iteration i had no clear goal and couldnt focus so i changed it, now ive changed it i dont wanna hear 'change it again' because ive already tried and i'm trying so hard lmfao
[14:12] Zoobeeny Actually, I read through the synopsis of robocop, I'm not sure where the parallels are. Mars, if you're available, could you fill me in on what I'm missing?
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[14:13] boop_xyz wikidot just fucked me
[14:13] Savan wikidot is a dumpster fire.
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[14:14] boop_xyz Savan true
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[14:15] boop_xyz if anyone wants to see a new idea I came up with, http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13994348/greenlight-the-burned-ones-scp
[14:16] Zoobeeny boop_xyz: See now, the lack of a central narrative is severely hindering your ability to get greenlights. You need to have these things fleshed out before starting a draft because these are what many readers are currently looking for. What happens to who, and how?
[14:16] boop_xyz about the idea?
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[14:17] Zoobeeny Yeah, for your forum post.
[14:17] boop_xyz so what do you mean about what happenes
[14:17] boop_xyz happens
[14:17] Zoobeeny You can't just leave it as "I'll work on this later" because the central narrative is the defining feature behind many SCPs
[14:17] Zoobeeny Okay
[14:17] Bawower Could I give a suggestion?
[14:18] War_ think of it as a sales pitch. if you cant describe all that this is gonna deliver, people won't be interested
[14:18] boop_xyz Go ahead
[14:18] boop_xyz War_ What should I put then? An in-depth history of it?
[14:18] Zoobeeny So, a central narrative is effectively the story you plan on telling through the SCP document. Something happens to a person, typically involving the SCP. That's all a narrative really is.
[14:18] War_ a summary, not detail
[14:18] Savan rn, it's a big powerful monster thing with some "gore for the sake of gore" and the O5 command thrown in for flavour.
[14:19] boop_xyz so I put in interviews and such in the narrative?
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[14:19] War_ I'd strongly recommend reading other people's greenlight pitches
[14:19] Zoobeeny Basically, in the Central Narrative space, you tell the reviewers what story you plan to tell. We don't really care how you do it, we want to know what is the actual content.
[14:19] War_ you'll have a much better understanding if you do tbh
[14:20] Bawower Maybe you could make them talk. They are suffering but can't die. A researcher is asking his friends to help him, though they don't find the cure. Finally, they will decide to kill him though it doesn't work.
[14:20] KatherineMonroe I'm looking for someone who would be interested in checking out my SCP idea. I changed it A LOT, and so far no one sent feedback based on the edited version.
[14:20] KatherineMonroe http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13990132/scp-xxxx-the-scarlet-angels-seeking-greenlight#
[14:21] Bawower (The friend is infected.)
[14:22] War_ Mars: yeah I'm curious about the robocop comparison now because uh. i'm not seeing very many parallels here beyond 'dude dies and is brought back' and even then there's some KEY differences
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[14:23] Zoobeeny War_: Yeah, exactly. Character concept of coming back from the dead… uh, similar? Actual plot… pretty different I'd say. Investigating suspicion within the Foundation seems vastly different from amnesiac supercop defies corrupt corporate entity…
[14:23] War_ like this honestly diverges from the plot of robocop at the death of the agent part
[14:24] Zoobeeny Lmao
[14:24] War_ and even then the agent is still…themself in my tale! its an exact body/brain replica! with faulted memories from the former body reuploaded
[14:24] War_ they know who they are and they're not any different
[14:24] Zoobeeny KatherineMonroe: Do you mind summarizing your idea for me?
[14:25] War_ if the likeness to robocop was actually that noticeable then no doubt the greenlighters would've pointed it out bc im pretty sure someone like HarryBlank has seen robocop (sorry for the ping LOL)
[14:26] Zoobeeny Yeah… robocop is a pretty popular film, almost a classic.
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[14:28] War_ besides. my main character is already a cyborg *before* they die LMAO
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[14:29] boop_xyz http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13994348/greenlight-the-burned-ones-scp#post-4890600
[14:29] boop_xyz I wrote some more
[14:29] boop_xyz Added some story to it
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[14:33] Lemuffin Is anyone available to greenlight/critique my idea?
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[14:34] Lemuffin http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13993608/seeking-greenlight-critique
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[14:35] KatherineMonroe Zoobeeny The angel-like entities with scarlet wings, dark blue eyes without pupils, around 2 meters in height, that are taking care of 'punishing great sinners' (heavy criminals). If the criminal is not captured, the entities find him, make suffer and erase from existence. If the criminal is captured, the entities make sure he is properly punished
[14:35] KatherineMonroe by influencing the police, prosecutors and judges. They themselves don't pose any threat, but they'll be helping in containing other SCP, idea of which I haven't posted on the forum since I've already posted 2 ideas and I have to wait a bit before posting another one.
[14:36] HarryBlank War_: The similarity is superficial
[14:37] Mars HarryBlank: I argued otherwise, honestly
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[14:38] Mars War_: I dunno, the whole like cyberpunk cop coming back to life and trying to solve his own murder reminded me of the movie
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[14:38] HarryBlank I see why it's reminiscent, I just don't see it as a problem because RoboCop isn't a mystery
[14:38] Mars But I have been wrong before, so I was probably talking out of my ass without realizing it
[14:38] HarryBlank I think it's a different approach to a similar concept
[14:39] War_ in my books it’s nowhere near similar enough to warrant concern honestly
[14:39] Mars War_: Well then you should be good!
[14:40] Mars My sincerest apologies for saying that earlier, I genuinely thought they were very similar
[14:40] War_ still kinda scary when someone tells me it’s the same as something i’ve never seen before kek
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[14:40] Mars That’s a mood
[14:40] Help_bruh I'm back
[14:40] Mars My apologies though, friend
[14:40] Mars I feel really bad
[14:41] HarryBlank War_: RoboCop comes back as a roboticized version of himself who doesn't know who he is, but gradually reclaims himself and gets revenge on the people who killed him as he reclaims his humanity. So just don't do that lol
[14:41] War_ i mean our character kinda does the opposite and has a small existential crisis when they realise they’re the same person in what’s technically a different body
[14:42] War_ and it sure as shit doesn’t instil some revenge complex
[14:42] HarryBlank Mars: Don't feel bad, it's important to make sure people aren't unintentionally retreading ground
[14:42] HarryBlank War_: Yeah I think fully executed it will be very obviously its own thing
[14:42] boop_xyz im sad
[14:42] Help_bruh *dabs*
[14:44] Limey boop_xyz it's basically tradition on this chat to have your first idea completely shut down, like a rite of passage. I wouldn't stress over it
[14:44] Help_bruh Yea I probably had like 4 mental breakdowns writing the soup SCP thing but its slightly better now
[14:44] boop_xyz well my first SCP is going to shit
[14:44] boop_xyz my new and improved idea is denied
[14:44] Help_bruh Same
[14:45] boop_xyz and I wanna post my drafts
[14:45] boop_xyz but we have the green light rule
[14:45] Limey It's a learning experience
[14:45] TheMightyMcB it helps to read
[14:45] TheMightyMcB reading makes better writers
[14:45] boop_xyz I read
[14:45] boop_xyz a lot
[14:45] TheMightyMcB not just scp i mean
[14:45] boop_xyz I again, read A lot
[14:45] Help_bruh I read on wattpad
[14:45] boop_xyz Like, I am in school and as a writer I am good
[14:46] Limey The greenlight rule exists for a reason. It allows you to develop your ideas with experienced writers to ensure that your articles have a narrative cohesion that's unique and interesting
[14:46] boop_xyz It's just I didn't know what the Central Narrative was for
[14:46] War_ i have awards for reading and i got top scores in my english certs for my creative writing but it doesn’t mean shit here
[14:46] boop_xyz I thought it was the back story
[14:46] TheMightyMcB yeah what war said
[14:47] War_ i’m a university student who has to write entire essays and that doesn’t mean shit either
[14:47] TheMightyMcB lots of really good scp authors actually come from legal or scientific backgrounds
[14:47] boop_xyz War_ ikr
[14:47] TheMightyMcB that kind of writing helps with scps more than traditional prose imo
[14:47] boop_xyz all I write are poems for the president, Shakespeare books, and others
[14:48] boop_xyz I just wish someone would be like, Oh that Idea is interesting or Oh! That SCP looks cool!
[14:49] Help_bruh Boop what was your first idea?
[14:49] War_ i’m actually a computer scientist tbh
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[14:51] boop_xyz I swear
[14:51] War_ i dont say the 'it doesn't mean shit here' negatively i should point out, i say it because its genuinely irrelevant
[14:51] boop_xyz this thing disconnects me
[14:51] boop_xyz Help_bruh a couch
[14:51] boop_xyz that is possessed
[14:51] boop_xyz and you get possessed by sitting in it
[14:51] Help_bruh That actually seems pretty cool NGL
[14:52] boop_xyz well not to the people of SCP
[14:52] Mars Fun fact: I recently deleted my first successful article
[14:52] War_ one of my first ideas when i was 16 was Anxiety Dog
[14:52] Mars Oh, this isn’t 19
[14:52] War_ more recent ideas ive never actually fulfilled was a telephone connected to other timelines
[14:52] Limey My first page that I'm finishing up now is my 4th idea and third draft
[14:53] War_ also ngl school grades are also not reflective of your skills
[14:53] Limey and I think I hit a good idea pretty early all things considered
[14:53] War_ anywhere
[14:53] War_ let alone here
[14:53] boop_xyz agreed
[14:53] War_ i got a B in art but most people consider me to be a professional freelancer
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[14:53] Sirslash47 I wish everyone here good luck.
[14:53] Help_bruh My first idea was a sort of species of like weird skull wolf human things that made clicks instead of barking or howling and growling I don't know it was weird
[14:54] boop_xyz my couch is -4 rep
[14:54] boop_xyz gamer
[14:54] Lemuffin Omg my browser broke i didnt see if anyone checked my request
[14:54] Help_bruh Lmao
[14:54] boop_xyz my thing breaks 24/7
[14:54] boop_xyz I go off this tab
[14:54] boop_xyz DISCONNECTED
[14:54] Help_bruh Same here
[14:55] Mars Let’s move this conversation to 19, shall we?
[14:55] War_ my entire citywide provider for wifi has been down all day smh yall are fuckin amateurs
[14:55] boop_xyz im good
[14:55] War_ yea
[14:55] Help_bruh OK but mars I have the soup thing ready
[14:55] boop_xyz http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-5164
[14:55] boop_xyz best scp ever
[14:55] boop_xyz a couch that possesses people
[14:55] boop_xyz -5 rep, even better
[14:56] Help_bruh Nice you use the new classification system now!
[14:56] boop_xyz of course
[14:56] Limey Again, most people's first ideas are shut down here
[14:56] Limey I really wouldn't take it personally nor as an attack on your abilities
[14:56] boop_xyz Limey says The Who shut it down (no offense)
[14:56] Limey well yeah
[14:56] War_ god what even is the classification system at this point
[14:56] Lemuffin Who u talking to
[14:56] boop_xyz War_ the enhanced one is sick
[14:56] War_ didnt exist when i first joined and i like to pretend it still doesnt
[14:57] Mars Help_bruh: Tell me about the narrative for this soup.
[14:57] War_ bc it looks tacky imo
[14:57] Limey I've been in your position too and I'm a better writer for it (I hope) boop_xyz
[14:57] boop_xyz
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[14:57] boop_xyz Mars a soup that makes you poop fast
[14:57] Lemuffin I updated my idea for feedback i got on the forums
[14:57] Tracque_ Did you get it greenlit?
[14:57] Help_bruh OK I'm a bit nervous again but just read the sandbox thing the soup can is a grenade now BTW
[14:57] boop_xyz wait what
[14:58] boop_xyz a soup grenade
[14:58] Lemuffin http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13993608/seeking-greenlight-critique#post-4889869
[14:58] Mars Help_bruh: I wasn’t asking for the sandbox link, I was asking you to tell me about the narrative
[14:58] Lemuffin (Sorry if this is spammy)
[14:58] boop_xyz spam
[14:58] boop_xyz ban
[14:58] Lemuffin Oof
[14:58] Help_bruh Brb
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[14:59] ocuin boop_xyz: Please tone down the lolrandom.
[14:59] boop_xyz sir yes sir
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[15:00] Lemuffin People seem to like my idea just not the fact i didnt put much narritive.. but i tried to cut it down for the idea thread lol
[15:00] boop_xyz I also have another SCP idea
[15:00] Mars boop_xyz: What is it?
[15:00] boop_xyz a crown that allows a person to control something
[15:01] boop_xyz that something is in the works
[15:01] Mars So?
[15:01] boop_xyz I like the idea of shadows
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[15:01] Help_bruh Am back I'll type
[15:01] Mars Why should I care about this? What’s the story behind this crown?
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[15:01] Limey your central narrative should be internal, inside the piece, rather than part of a larger story lemuffin. The lack of that is probably what people dislike
[15:01] Limey something to make it stand out from all the spooky plants on the site already
[15:01] boop_xyz Mars I haven't gotten there yet
[15:02] Quadraginta Limey sorry for interrupting, but did you mean mcguffin?
[15:02] Mars nods.
[15:02] Lemuffin Ahh ok, ive considered adding more when i got lit for example like testing logs and such
[15:02] boop_xyz smiles with tears streaming down
[15:02] War_ people can't really critique on half-formed ideas
[15:02] Limey naw I'm talking to lemuff lmao quad
[15:02] Quadraginta Limey my b lol
[15:03] Mars .seen chaucer
[15:03] Secretary_Helen I have never seen someone by that name
[15:03] Mars Whoop
[15:03] Lemuffin The idea for the mushroom is formed, but i cut out most of the story for the purpose of trimming it doen to an idea
[15:04] boop_xyz I edited my previous idea: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13994348/greenlight-the-burned-ones-scp#post-4890600
[15:04] Limey for most modern scps, there needs to be a 'narrative' - a story you want to tell. That's what separates your article from a monster manual that just describes a thing and moves on, which will not leave a lasting impact on the reader. What is the story you want to tell Lemuffin?
[15:05] Help_bruh The original owner of the can Johnson Clarke died in a coma in 2014 Jan 9 after the 5th time of consumption of the soup the staff at the hospital were confused when they found the soup in his hand after death the nurse slowly peeled off the wrapping and a few seconds later the nurse painted the room red with her blood, the police were called
[15:05] Help_bruh shortly after in fear of a terrorist attack Johnson's father was one of the few officers to arrive at the mess of blood and soup when can rolled itself through the building in a killing spree Johnsons father was the remaining person in the hospital hiding from the can, foundation personal arrived to the hospital three hours later and successfully
[15:05] Help_bruh contained the can with just 8 injured out of the team of 10, the can shows a small amount of sentience and the ability to take the wrapping off at will. How's this I had multiple mental breakdowns while writing this soup thing
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[15:05] Help_bruh There
[15:05] Lemuffin Aaa spam wall
[15:06] Mars Okay so
[15:06] Mars This is just a thing that kills you without much interesting events occurring in the narrative.
[15:06] Mars Like
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[15:07] Mars Death doesn’t have any allure in the scp universe in and of itself
[15:07] Mars Just because someone died from soup does not make it interesting.
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[15:07] TheMightyMcB nor do "fates worse than death"
[15:08] boop_xyz oof
[15:08] TheMightyMcB thats another super common one
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[15:08] Mars The anomaly should really like, thematically tie into the narrative, which it doesn’t do here.
[15:08] boop_xyz who are you speaking to Mars
[15:08] Help_bruh He's talking to me
[15:08] Mars Well, it doesn’t have to tie in thematically, but IMO it really should
[15:08] boop_xyz kk
[15:09] Help_bruh Its a dumb idea
[15:09] Mars Help_bruh: Do you read a lot of scps? Like new ones from series IV to VI?
[15:09] Help_bruh I should just go back to my first idea
[15:09] Help_bruh No
[15:09] Help_bruh I don't
[15:09] Lemuffin Limey id say the story would be how we always seem to underestimate fungi, we forget they are their own class, neither plant nor animal. Mycology isnt exactly a topic that many choose as a career over botany, and thus we dont know as much about fungi as we do plants.
[15:09] TheMightyMcB i think an example might help here
[15:09] Mars That’s gonna be my advise to you honestly
[15:10] Mars Let’s take
[15:10] TheMightyMcB so im just gonna shamelessly plug one of my own articles because i dont give a fuck
[15:10] TheMightyMcB and then explain it
[15:10] TheMightyMcB scp-2410
[15:10] Secretary_Helen TheMightyMcB: SCP-2410: We Are Beary Sorry (Rating: +218. Written 1 year ago By: themightymcb, n_aepic_fael, crashington) - http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2410
[15:10] Limey power move
[15:10] Mars Dope, thanks TheMightyMcB
[15:10] TheMightyMcB ok so this one here is a really simple concept that gets developed into something more complex
[15:11] TheMightyMcB thats a great formula for a first scp
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[15:11] SSaber Hello
[15:11] TheMightyMcB the basic concept here was ‘teddy bears with the same insides as real life bears`
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[15:11] TheMightyMcB so to give that concept a narrative, all we had to do was extend that out to a real life scenario
[15:11] Limey lemuffin: That’s a moral of the story, but it's not a story. How would you convey this? What do you want the reader to feel?
[15:11] Help_bruh How can…*frantically shaking* soup be interesting I was originally gonna make it chef boyardee or whatever ravioli the SCP not Campbell chicken noodle soup
[15:12] TheMightyMcB so we described a 911 call of like the first time a kid discovered this, which both gave us a gross log and also made the anomaly more personal
[15:12] TheMightyMcB and then we expanded further to show that this whole thing was really messing up a lot of kids, so that kicked off a debate inside the foundation about how to deal with that
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[15:13] TheMightyMcB the important thing here to notice was that the anomaly was integral to the story being told and the story being told was at least partially unique to the anomaly
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[15:13] TheMightyMcB they play into each other and give the reader synergy that translates into a grounded sense of reality
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[15:13] Lemuffin Hmm
[15:14] TheMightyMcB it feels like a thing that could have actually happened because everything flows logically
[15:15] Help_bruh Also hoop_xyz the couch is a really good idea
[15:15] Lemuffin Limey id like the reader to get that feeling of "oh thats weird.." not necesarily scary but more like the feeling you get when an experiments results are redacted
[15:15] boop_xyz well I'm deleting it
[15:15] Help_bruh Awww
[15:16] boop_xyz well it's got -10 rep
[15:16] boop_xyz it's just gunna get deleted by the wiki anyway
[15:16] TheMightyMcB so like if i went into the ideas forum just saying "i wanna do teddy bears with real organs", nobody would greenlight that
[15:16] Help_bruh Wait just now?
[15:16] boop_xyz yes
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[15:16] boop_xyz SCP-5164
[15:16] Secretary_Helen boop_xyz: SCP-5164: The Possessive Couch (Rating: -10. Written 36 minutes ago By: boop_xyz) - http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-5164
[15:16] Help_bruh Loggers
[15:16] Tracque_ boop_xyz Did you get any crit before posting?
[15:16] Help_bruh Poggers
[15:16] boop_xyz no
[15:17] boop_xyz I got no response so
[15:17] Help_bruh That's why
[15:17] boop_xyz I said fuck it
[15:17] Help_bruh Oh
[15:17] Limey wonder/fear of the unknown is very done by this point. A majority of series 1-3 articles rely on that 'woah this is weird and unique' feeling. I don't believe that feeling alone is enough for an article nowadays lemuffin
[15:17] Tracque_ How long did you wait?
[15:17] boop_xyz and I know I should have waited but
[15:17] boop_xyz Tracque_ ang hour
[15:17] TheMightyMcB jesus dude, an hour?
[15:17] Tracque_ Wow
[15:17] boop_xyz I have already heard this
[15:17] Lemuffin Limey do you have any suggestions on how i can add to this?
[15:17] Tracque_ Impatient much
[15:17] boop_xyz I swear to fuck
[15:17] Zoobeeny No need to dogpile y'all.
[15:17] boop_xyz Tracque_ I don't need you baby sitting me
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[15:18] Lemuffin Woah rude
[15:18] boop_xyz you can't call me rude
[15:18] ocuin Woah here, let's calm things down
[15:18] TheMightyMcB aaaaalright
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[15:18] Help_bruh Calm your horses
[15:18] Tracque_ Alright that got heated quickly
[15:18] SSaber Hi so can I offer my idea up for critique or is there a wait list?
[15:18] = boop_xyz was booted from #thecritters by TheMightyMcB (thats a year for maturity, appeal in 17)
2021-02-06 17:02:34 Sirslash47: .lc
2021-02-06 17:02:38 Sirslash47: .au
2021-02-06 17:02:47 boop_xyz: yessss
2021-02-06 17:02:53 boop_xyz: possessive couch for the win
2021-02-06 17:03:37 Mars: .seen chaucer345
2021-02-06 17:03:47 Mars: Hm
2021-02-06 17:03:51 boop_xyz: sus
2021-02-06 17:03:52 Quadraginta: ping'd lol
2021-02-06 17:04:01 Quadraginta: We were conspiring, I admit it.
2021-02-06 17:05:09 War_: should i go to the holy building of technomancy to do some writing lads
2021-02-06 17:05:17 Quadraginta: Yes.
2021-02-06 17:05:22 Quadraginta: ;D
2021-02-06 17:05:25 Mars: .tell chaucer345 Talk when you get a chance? It’s wandsman related and I have questions
2021-02-06 17:06:09 War_: for anyone not in the know: my university owns a church. they converted it into a huge IT lab https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784024651567071235/802105154454290432/image1.jpg
2021-02-06 17:06:13 boop_xyz: .tell Secretary_Helen can I speak with the boss
2021-02-06 17:09:10 Limey: I'm not sure if the bot will get back to you…
2021-02-06 17:09:37 DrAkimoto: .l
2021-02-06 17:09:47 boop_xyz: possessive couch for the win
2021-02-06 17:10:05 Sirslash47: Wait chaucer was 3 days ago?
2021-02-06 17:10:29 Sirslash47: My perception of time has lessened but it can't be that long ago
2021-02-06 17:10:38 boop_xyz: welp I might just delete my scp
2021-02-06 17:11:00 Sirslash47: damn it has really become this bad
2021-02-06 17:11:04 Mars: SCP-5978
2021-02-06 17:11:13 boop_xyz: SCP-5164
2021-02-06 17:11:17 boop_xyz: that rating
2021-02-06 17:11:18 boop_xyz: :(
2021-02-06 17:11:37 Cerastes: did you get it reviewed?
2021-02-06 17:11:51 boop_xyz: I tried to
2021-02-06 17:12:09 boop_xyz: no one really responds
2021-02-06 17:13:40 Cerastes: looking at your post history, it seems you made your ideas post a few hours ago?
2021-02-06 17:13:51 Cerastes: takes a little time to get responses, its not instant
2021-02-06 17:14:32 boop_xyz: I know
2021-02-06 17:14:36 boop_xyz: I tried on thecritters
2021-02-06 17:14:38 boop_xyz: made a draft
2021-02-06 17:19:04 boop_xyz: wha
2021-02-06 17:19:05 TheMightyMcB: TheMightyMcB has banned :*!*@SCP-tgn82v.fios.verizon.net
2021-02-06 17:19:10 boop_xyz: boop_xyz was kicked by TheMightyMcB for: per critters
2021-02-06 17:20:18 Guest08453: TheMightyMcB why did I get banned
2021-02-06 17:20:21 Guest08453: for a fucking yeae
2021-02-06 17:20:22 Guest08453: year
2021-02-06 17:20:38 TheMightyMcB: immaturity and hostility to other members of chat
2021-02-06 17:20:43 TheMightyMcB: an appeal is open to you
2021-02-06 17:20:52 TheMightyMcB: let me grab someone uninvolved who can take it
2021-02-06 17:21:01 boop: I said one thing
2021-02-06 17:21:04 boop: because they attacked me
2021-02-06 17:21:09 TheMightyMcB: do you want to appeal?
2021-02-06 17:21:13 boop: of course I want to
2021-02-06 17:21:17 TheMightyMcB: ok then stand by
2021-02-06 17:21:25 TheMightyMcB: i cant take it because i was the one who banned you
2021-02-06 17:21:29 TheMightyMcB: it wouldnt be fair
2021-02-06 17:21:30 boop: thats some bull I get banned for a year because I was getting attacked and retailated
2021-02-06 17:21:35 boop: TheMightyMcB I don't really care
2021-02-06 17:21:57 boop: I'd rather do it with the person that banned me
2021-02-06 17:22:02 boop: so I can get their point of view
2021-02-06 17:22:48 gee0765: hi i can take your appeal
2021-02-06 17:22:57 boop: perfect
2021-02-06 17:22:59 boop: lets do this
2021-02-06 17:23:48 boop: gee0765 ?
2021-02-06 17:23:56 gee0765: ye
2021-02-06 17:24:04 gee0765: you explain why you don't think you should be banned
2021-02-06 17:24:10 boop: well I was attacked
2021-02-06 17:24:26 boop: because he called me impatient
2021-02-06 17:24:38 boop: I tried ti explain that I had been through the "you should have waited"
2021-02-06 17:24:43 boop: he persisted
2021-02-06 17:24:48 boop: and I got a little mad
2021-02-06 17:24:54 boop: and said don't babysit me
2021-02-06 17:25:00 boop: and got banned for a year
2021-02-06 17:26:04 boop: gee0765
2021-02-06 17:27:32 gee0765: is that it
2021-02-06 17:27:39 gee0765: like, is that your whole appeal
2021-02-06 17:27:50 boop: well I thought there were more questions
2021-02-06 17:28:06 boop: but I think is should be unbanned cause a year ban is uncalled for
2021-02-06 17:28:18 boop: I think a warning to both parties is appropriate
2021-02-06 17:28:26 boop: not a years ban
2021-02-06 17:28:32 gee0765: that alone wasn't what led to your ban, your constant immaturity before the event was a big part
2021-02-06 17:28:41 gee0765: and was why the ban was a year and not a shorter length
2021-02-06 17:28:47 boop: how was I immature
2021-02-06 17:29:12 gee0765: constant randomness
2021-02-06 17:29:20 gee0765: repeatedly showing everyone your failed article
2021-02-06 17:29:39 boop: the randomness was a way to make friends
2021-02-06 17:29:43 boop: to shitpost and have fun
2021-02-06 17:30:00 boop: showing my failed article cause I was sad and depressed and wanted critiques
2021-02-06 17:30:32 boop: not someone to tell me for 5th time, I needed to wait longer for my idea critique
2021-02-06 17:30:39 boop: gee0765
2021-02-06 17:31:20 gee0765: if you don't see an issue with your behaviour then it is clear that you aren't mature enough to use our chat
2021-02-06 17:31:31 boop: it's not that I don't see an issue
2021-02-06 17:31:37 boop: sure maybe I shouldn't have moped around like a baby
2021-02-06 17:31:47 boop: or shitposted as much as I did
2021-02-06 17:31:53 boop: but I was talking with people and having fun
2021-02-06 17:32:14 boop: talking to people with the same interests
2021-02-06 17:32:18 boop: gee0765
2021-02-06 17:33:12 gee0765: Nothing you have said has convinced me you are actually mature enough, as it took a ban for you to admit you were at fault. Appeal denied
2021-02-06 17:33:33 gee0765: Banned users are not allowed to lurk in 17, so please leave this channel. Youll be welcome back in a year
2021-02-06 17:33:56 boop: what a shitshow