Non-Disc Record - Thermius

Summary:

Looked for passcode on other sites, got it wrong, got upset

Non-Disc Record - Thermius

Zyn 29 Jun 2020 03:26

Thermius (account age 8 days) recently sent me a PM regarding their application:

Could i please be told what was incorrect about my Application to the Scp Site? I would appreciate this greatly as it would allow me to re-apply correctly instead of being denied for no apparent reason.
Thank you for your time.

Upon my asking them to provide the exact text of their application, their response included a now-obsolete passcode. As such, I replied with:

Your application does not meet the required criteria. Please reread the required reading carefully to address this.

The conversation then continued as such:

+ show block

Site passcode and age were all that were stated to be required.
I have provided both.

You have provided an incorrect passcode.

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I have been unable to find an alternative passcode, are you certain that it has been changed on site?

Yes. I was present when the passcode was changed. Please note that your insistence that you cannot find the current passcode leads staff to believe that you didn't read the required reading at all, but simply pulled an older passcode from an alternative source, including asking offsite communities to be given the passcode. Attempts to cheat the required reading system like this are grounds for a permanent ban from the site.

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You are correct in one, and only one, thing that your reply encompasses.
While i did indeed search alternate sites for the passcode this is simply because, despite searching the site multiple times and reading / rereading the required material even more than should have been necessary in my search. I was unable to find the passcode. The passcode I used s indeed four months old by this current date, i apologise if the circumstances appear as though i was trying to cheat the system.

Followed by this new message 6 minutes later:

You are correct in one, and only one, thing that your reply encompasses.
While i did indeed search alternate sites for the passcode this is simply because, despite searching the site multiple times and reading / rereading the required material even more than should have been necessary in my search. I was unable to find the passcode. The passcode I used s indeed four months old by this current date, i apologise if the circumstances appear as though i was trying to cheat the system.

And, with all due respect, as i am already on thin ice due to the circumstances, nowhere in the immediate permanent ban policy is 'Using an incorrect passcode you found online' a rule, unless this is considered 'Other Sever Misconduct' which i believe is unjust.

I have reason to believe that the appropriate action would be to warn me, although there is no point in this as I am not yet part of the site.

I do not mean to sound disrespectful, i just wish to know if this action is severe enough for such rash action upon such a meager mis-stepping on my part.

I sent back the following:

While i did indeed search alternate sites for the passcode this is simply because, despite searching the site multiple times and reading / rereading the required material even more than should have been necessary in my search.

If you were unable to find the passcode, it is difficult to believe that you actually read the required reading material carefully.

And, with all due respect, as i am already on thin ice due to the circumstances, nowhere in the immediate permanent ban policy is 'Using an incorrect passcode you found online' a rule, unless this is considered 'Other Sever Misconduct' which i believe is unjust.

The use of an incorrect passcode in itself is not an issue. It is the attempt to bypass the required reading that is the issue.

I have reason to believe that the appropriate action would be to warn me, although there is no point in this as I am not yet part of the site.

Bans can be issued even if someone is not yet a member of the mainsite. The ban would block the submission of an application. As of currently, you have effectively received a warning, and no ban is yet in place.

I do not mean to sound disrespectful, i just wish to know if this action is severe enough for such rash action upon such a meager mis-stepping on my part.

The application process is taken extremely seriously, especially since there have been incidents of underage children asking someone else to find the passcode for them, and then joining the site while wholly ignorant of the community's rules and requirements.

I will forward your response to the rest of the staff team.

So… what do we think? Allow them to join on a short leash? I will note that the tone in their messages is not encouraging.

Re: Non-Disc Record - Thermius

Croquembouche 30 Jun 2020 00:33

I was unable to find the passcode.

It's a simple reading comprehension test, right? I'm not sure I see any reason to waive it.

Re: Non-Disc Record - Thermius

Zyn 30 Jun 2020 02:43

To confirm, I don't think they should be allowed to skip the application process. I'm raising the matter of whether we want to allow them onto the site or not, given that they decided to not bother with the required reading.

Re: Non-Disc Record - Thermius

Zyn 30 Jun 2020 02:54

Noting that I got two PMs from them:

Look, imma drop the posh writing, im not in English class so frankly i dont care right now.
Im gonna be straight with you, i've been a fan of the website for years and i've tried to join before but was unable to create a wikidot with my other email for unknown reasons.
I know you hear this all the time but I would never, ever try and cheat the SCP site, it's so amazing and welcoming, and now im about to be banned because im not observant enough.
It's bittersweet, the fact that they have such amazing moderators that are so perceptive and so able to just quickly pick out relevant bits of information, and it's bittersweet that i probably got into contact with the most observant and judgmental of them all.

If i am gonna be banned, just promise me it wont be permanent. I'll do better next time! Maybe it'll stick out a bit more in the reading next time, eh? Haha

Anyways, thank you for the time you've wasted on this, see ya in a month or two?

Followed 6 minutes later with:

ICK! SCRATCH THAT!!!! I JUST FOUND IT ON [section of the required reading]!!!
[passcode was here]

What do we think?

Re: Non-Disc Record - Thermius

SoullessSingularity 30 Jun 2020 02:58

I think this person may not be mature enough to be here. Their intentions are good but they're clearly young and kinda immature.

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Living the dream, or dreaming the life?

Re: Non-Disc Record - Thermius

Jacob Conwell 30 Jun 2020 03:02

A monthlong ban given they owned up to their mistake.

Re: Non-Disc Record - Thermius

Zyn 01 Jul 2020 04:45

Noting that I got a PM from the user today:

To be fair, you probably cant promise me that, actually. Well, either way. Have a nice day

I am in agreement with a monthlong ban as previously stated.

ETA: another reply after I told them that they likely would receive monthlong, not perma

Alrighty! Well, thats not that bad then, i recently found the passcode when re-reading the guide for newbies so ik where to look next time. See ya in a month!

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