Chat user Ryan87 has repeatedly gone into #thecritters to ask for reviews, only to tacitly disregard the opinions of anybody who viewed the ideas unfavorably, instead just asking for reviews from others. This repeated "fishing for greenlights" is a major waste of time for reviewers and the user has been officially warned to take reviewer opinions seriously in the future. Logs below.
Ryan87> still looking for greenlighters
19:35:06 also looking for crits who know a ####ton about shinto mitholigy
19:35:06 <•TheMightyMcB> Ryan87: if it's the same idea as last time, I'm not interested
19:35:49 <Moon> Any critters want to crit my concept?
19:35:56 <Ryan87> TheMightyMcB: well there is a new idea that I recenly posted
19:36:17 <l4mr124> Also. Would anyone be able to help me to do the same thing formatting wise as SCP-[even number]-J?
19:36:46 <•MalyceGraves> l4mr124: You can just look at the page source for that
19:36:51 <Ryan87> TheMightyMcB: how much do you know about shinto fokelore?
19:36:59 <•TheMightyMcB> basically nothing
19:37:01 <•MalyceGraves> folklore*
19:37:04 <l4mr124> I did but I don't understand it. And I want to use it in a different way.
19:37:07 <Ryan87> thank
19:37:11 thanks
19:37:27 <•TheMightyMcB> i know a few yokai that pokemon are based off of and thats about it
19:38:42 <Ryan87> TheMightyMcB: not sure if your the right guy/girl but I can show you what I have anyways
19:38:54 <•TheMightyMcB> ill look at it, sure
19:39:22 <Ryan87> http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-13317497/seeking-greenlights-envoy-of-inari#post-4648373
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19:41:53 <etoile> >
One day when the researcher checks in on the fox who suddenly locked herself up in her containment cell, an incident occurs where the researcher ends up impregnating the fox (lets say that pheromones where involved). The story end with the researcher convinces the rest of the Foundation into allowing the two of them to raise the child, and how it would benefit the Foundation
19:41:58 this is a harem anime premise
19:42:18 >
young foxgirl
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19:42:30 <etoile> i do not like the smell of this.
19:42:41 <Noodles> Anyone can take a look at a concept of mine regarding lies and the fear of getting caught?
19:44:22 <Ryan87> etoile: doesn't a harem require more then one guy or girl?
19:44:32 <Moon> Ryan87: I looked a the comment section of your post and you mention that her helping tasks boosts morale. I feel that better to go off rather then sex
19:44:39 <etoile> Ryan87: excuse me. it's a bad anime premise
19:44:52 how… "young" is she
19:46:04 <Ryan87> yong in apparence or age? because despite the one tail, she's over 100
19:46:28 <etoile> uh
19:46:32 appearance?
19:46:53 please dont do the "no it's fine she's actually over 100" thing on top of the rest of this
19:47:05 <Moon> Ryan87: What about her appearance. Just to be clear she doesn't look like a child.
19:48:18 <•naepicfael> The point here is that you're describing generic anime tropes
19:48:27 <Ryan87> I wan't her to look over 18 if that helps, still workshoping the exact range
19:48:53 mid 20s at most
19:49:52 <Moon> Ryan87: Alright that's good then. I still feel you should focus more on the ability of hers to boost morale of staff as a starting point. It feels better than the romance option. Perhaps they can be both interlinked together for a good narrative but as it stands, it just seems like some sort of romcom.
19:50:32 <etoile> yeah this just seems like a generic anime plot forced into scpverse
19:50:51 like
19:50:53 scp-2115
19:50:54 <•Secretary_Helen> etoile: SCP-2115: Meet Other People (Rating: +322. Written 5 years ago By: Tagliafierro) - http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2115
19:51:06 <etoile> another dating/romance related skip resulting in a pregnancy
19:51:19 compare this to yours, and it just… it's contrived
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19:52:26 <Ryan87> the pregncey is more of a plot point that happens at the very end
19:52:33 <etoile> why.
19:52:34 like. why
19:52:41 it's the same case for 2115
19:52:47 other people smarter than me have pointed out the inherent messed up power dynamics in researcher/skip romances
19:53:20 "cute clumsy foxgirl" played completely straight is absolutely not going to go over well
19:53:35 <Moon> Ryan87: if it happens at the end whats the point. you state their child would be good for research but if is the end then it has no development.
19:53:49 <Mars> Heyo
19:53:58 <Moon> Hey
19:54:04 <l4mr124> Would anyone be able to help me to do the same thing formatting wise as SCP-[even number]-J? I want to use it in a different way and I don't understand the source text exactly. It would be good if you had discord or something so I can say what I want to do more clearly.
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19:54:25 <etoile> >
Said foxgirl is allowed to roam around the facility
19:54:29 not gonna fly
19:54:32 <•Tuomey> >
tab in
19:54:38 <etoile> sorry dude.
19:54:45 <•Tuomey> >
first thing I see is a foxgirl being allowed to roam around a facility
19:54:46 okay
19:55:04 <Mars> Could I get someone to look over this narrative for fluidity?
19:55:06 <•Tuomey> the last time I saw something like that someone was basically putting their furry fantasy OC on the site and it was weird and sexual
19:55:17 <Ryan87> etoile: think I should reword that?
19:55:20 <Mars> Tuomey: Sounds traumatic
19:55:21 <etoile> Tuomey: it's basically that but for anime
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19:55:46 <etoile> Ryan87: im gonna be 100% honest here dude i dont think any of this is salvageable
19:55:47 <SouthA> I just wanted to ask someone if my idea is good to run with and expand upon
19:55:48 <•Tuomey> etoile: I was really hoping it would not be that
19:55:57 <etoile> sorry u__u
19:55:58 <Mars> Ryan87: What's the idea?
19:56:11 I have a few minutes before work, I can take a quick look as well.
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19:56:22 <etoile> hi son
19:56:27 …derance
19:56:32 <Alpha> what have I come back too? lol
19:56:32 <Ryan87> http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-13317497/seeking-greenlights-envoy-of-inari#post-4648373
19:56:32 <Mars> lol
19:56:37 <Moon> Tuomey: hey sorry to bother you but are you critting at the moment?
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19:56:53 <SouthA> Alright so I've never enjoyed deep waters and all that purely because I have an irrational fear of it. So would it be a good plan to try and build an skip around that fear of mine?
19:56:53 <etoile> this guy's anime foxgirl i guess
19:57:03 <•Tuomey> I'm mostly here in case someone needs to get banned but this furry thing has caught my eye and not for good reasons
19:57:11 <etoile> SouthA: id develop it further but that's a good start
19:57:17 <Mars> Hmm.
19:57:39 <Alpha> I see.
19:57:54 <•Tuomey> Ryan87: okay I'm going to be very real with you for a minute here
19:57:58 <Mars> Well free roaming and assisting staff doesn't exactly seem like it would fit the Foundation's M.O., I have seen it be done before.
19:58:13 <•Calibri_Bold> Free roaming is like decommissioning.
19:58:16 <•Tuomey> If you have to put a whole thing in your idea about how it's not ripping off another article, it's not original enough.
19:58:25 <Mars> That being said, a creature this complex and clumsy certainly would not be a free roaming skip imo
19:58:25 <•Calibri_Bold> If you're gonna do it, there's better be a very, very good reason behind it.
19:58:44 <•Tuomey> It's an admittance that you, yourself, are not confident enough in your own idea that you feel you have to pre-emptively defend it from accusations.
19:58:50 <•Calibri_Bold> ^
19:58:59 <•Tuomey> This, by itself, would come close to dooming the idea.
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19:59:36 <Mars> I will return!
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19:59:42 <•Tuomey> Secondly, and more importantly, I've been here a while.
19:59:58 <Ryan87> my last Idea was accused of being a rip-off of 096, despite me not seeing it
20:00:01 <•Tuomey> I've seen a lot of furry fantasy kitsune/similar OCs put on the site.
20:00:07 They don't go well.
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20:00:41 <•Tuomey> The way you describe this idea reads as if it's veering into smut.
20:00:54 <•Sonderance> To clarify, Ryan87: There's a difference between claiming an idea is a ripoff and saying that creating an SCP that goes into a "rage state" when its face is seen is commonly associated with 096.
20:00:55 <•Tuomey> Which is fine, if it's your thing, but definitely not for an SCP article.
20:01:01 <etoile> Ryan87: read this http://www.scp-wiki.net/so-you-want-to-write-a-humanoid-scp-object
20:01:18 <l4mr124> Would anyone who had discord be willing to help me with a formatting issue? It's complex so I want to vc about it as that's easier.
20:01:29 *has
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20:02:05 <Noodles> If I am not interrupting anythign right now, can I get some looks on an SCP concept of mine? Got one greenlight already
20:02:11 <•Calibri_Bold> l4mr124: Are you trying to format something so that it looks like Discord?
20:02:35 <l4mr124> no. I just want to voice chat about it as that's easier.
20:02:39 <•Tuomey> Ryan87: In short, if you want to continue with this idea, you can't reasonably expect help from many experienced writers because of the glaring similarities to many failed articles and the closeness to, if I may be crude, furry Japan-ophile fapfic.
20:02:43 <etoile> theyre trying to format something like scp-[even number]-j
20:02:46 lol
20:03:03 <Alpha> If anyone has time, I could use some critique on an scp concept.
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20:04:10 <Moon> Alpha: crit for crit?
20:04:19 <Alpha> sure
20:04:33 <Moon> http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-13321502/3d-pen-seeking-greenlight#post-4648680
20:04:37 heres my link
20:04:41 <Alpha> http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-13321730/the-incomplete-philosopher-s-stone
20:04:55 <ddducks> So, would anyone be interested in a cognitohazard that (sort of) ruins people's relationships? I've got one greenlight at the moment, but would really appreciate some eyes and critique if peope have time to spare.
20:06:22 <•Sonderance> ddducks: Can you give me the elevator pitch in a sentence?
20:06:33 <•TheMightyMcB> Ryan87: i posted my review on there
20:06:49 but basically reviewers in here have already summed up my thoughts nicely
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20:07:39 <etoile> anyway anyone wanna tell me if my intentionally awful clef/bright fanfic is too hamfisted
20:07:48 <Ryan87> Sonderance: sorry, after that I just wanted to make sute that people didn't idmidilty think of 956, as they are diffrent from a cultural standpoint
20:08:27 <Moon> Alrighty that was a nice short read so i'll give my take: The good for me is the narrative. it is a good story and I enjoy that. My bad comes from the object itself. Why does it do what it does. I feel the point about turning metal into silver is unnecessary. The other ability is what I presume killed his wife and I feel that could be more developed. Other than that, the logs about the other stone you mention will have to be good and I
20:08:40 Sorry that was a big wall of text
20:08:53 <•Sonderance> Moon: IRC cuts off your posts after a certain point.
20:09:59 <Ryan87> TheMightyMcB: maybe I should explan how my chain of thoughts esclated to how it is
20:10:19 <•TheMightyMcB> Ryan87: i dont think it will help
20:10:27 <etoile> Ryan87: the idea is not good dude
20:10:31 <•Calibri_Bold> Ryan87: I highly recommend that you listen to TheMightyMcB and Tuomey. You are extremely unlikely to find a more positive outlook from any experienced reviewer, and the reception on the site will be far less kind.
20:10:32 <•TheMightyMcB> the end result is a sexy anime foxgirl OC and nobody here wants to read that
20:10:39 <Noodles> Sonderance: I targeted a narrative with the scip concept from yesterday if you want to take a look <3
20:10:45 <•Calibri_Bold> I literally cannot add to the review you've gotten.
20:10:55 <•TheMightyMcB> if you want to write foxgirl smut, there are other places where you can do that
20:11:03 <•Sonderance> Noodles, lovely! I'd like to see it.
20:11:47 <Noodles> http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-13318289/ear-ie-walls#post-4647196 It's a relatively simple narrative, but I think I might be able to convey it properly
20:11:49 <Ryan87> TheMightyMcB: My idea for the scp was oringaly about the child
20:11:52 <•TheMightyMcB> you've already gotten reviews from like 4 trusted reviewers all saying no
20:12:07 and one of them is literally the #2 author on the site right now iirc
20:12:23 <Alpha> Alright, so the stone itself is based off the lesser known 2nd variant of the Philosopher's Stone that has been undercooked. This it creates silver instead of gold.
20:12:50 <Moon> Alpha: Stupid question but im guessing its based of harry potter
20:13:24 <Alpha> actually no, the traditional concept actually. I studied it a lot in high school
20:13:38 <•Calibri_Bold> Ryan87: Even if you could somehow justify your idea to us, execution is key to writing. The people reading your article wouldn't bother to listen to your justification, and would downvote without a second thought.
20:14:02 <Moon> Ah Alright. I still don't see the reason to add this to your concept. It feels as if you thought of it last second, but perhaps it has a reason that I'm not seeing.
20:14:48 <Alpha> the second variant can't produce the same purity that the first can, so it can only do silver
20:15:46 <Ryan87> Calibri_Bold: So should I wait a month or so and see if I can justify my idea in a better fashion?
20:15:47 <Moon> Yes I understand that. But I still feel it has no reason to fit in with your narrative. The other ability that is age and dying seems much more interesting and your narrative is based on that from what I gather.
20:16:01 Making that more clear would be great for you concept
20:16:15 <•Calibri_Bold> Ryan87: That is literally not at all what I'm saying.
20:16:15 <•Sonderance> Noodles: I'm a bit confused. What's the lie in question that drives the protagonist so nuts?
20:16:21 <etoile> Ryan87: i don't forsee a possible way to "salvage" a generic anime foxgirl
20:16:28 we're saying the idea is inherently extremely flawed
20:16:34 <Alpha> Moon: I see, you're definitely right
20:16:47 <chiifu> do you mind if i join this conversation?
20:17:08 <Moon> which one it's kinda cluttered?
20:17:10 <Noodles> Sonderance: I was looking to focus it around an affair that the main character once had that would absolutely destroy their marriage, so he has kept lying to his wife to keep the spiel going and to uphold the marriage.
20:17:20 But he still is worried more and more that he'll eventually be found out and discovered
20:17:27 <•MalyceGraves> Sonderance: ô/
20:17:36 Channel mode set to +m by •TheMightyMcB
20:17:36 <•Sonderance> MalyceGraves: o/
20:17:39 <•TheMightyMcB> alright
20:17:48 just a quick mute here
20:18:17 no need to continue to dogpile on Ryan87, i think the point has been thoroughly made that we do not think the idea will work
20:18:20 thank you
20:18:26 Channel mode set to -m by •TheMightyMcB
20:18:33 <•Sonderance> Post-mute, it's very important that I get to say: the hat, Malyce! The hat! Absolutely gosh-darned lovely!
20:18:33 <•Calibri_Bold> TheMightyMcB: My bad, sorry.
20:18:36 <•TheMightyMcB> np
20:18:47 <•MalyceGraves> <3 Sonderance
20:18:49 — •MalyceGraves preens
20:18:49 <etoile> im currently writing a skip that uses the word "bright-sama is a tsundere" and somehow got greenlit so theres hope for everyone i think
20:18:53 <Moon> Alpha: Yeah, I think you have two ways to go about it. either have a reason for this stone to produce this silver and make it good for the narrative which I can't see a good way to fit in but if you can I salut you. Or carrying on with the Nicholas Flamel which im more invested in.
20:19:03 <chiifu> etoile, is this the fanfic you were talking about earlier
20:19:03 <•Sonderance> MalyceGraves: Your sense of style and gravitas never fails to floor me.
20:19:09 <etoile> chiifu: unfortunately
20:19:12 <chiifu> oh god.
20:19:18 <etoile> yeah i know.
20:19:21 <•Calibri_Bold> Sonderance: Check this out.
20:19:23 <•TheMightyMcB> Ryan87: all i will say at this point is that if you will continue to ignore the advice of your critters, you will not be welcome in this room any longer
20:19:25 <•Sonderance> Noodles: I'm liking the contrast between the relatively domestic lie and the disturbing phenomenon that derives from it.
20:19:29 <•Calibri_Bold> ö/
20:19:30 <chiifu> yeah.. uh.. good luck
20:19:34 <•Calibri_Bold> I have double buns.
20:19:38 <•Sonderance> CALIBRI! Is that TWO hats???
20:19:43 <Moon> Alpha: How do you feel about my concept might I ask?
20:19:46 <•MalyceGraves> Sonderance: I have another skip complete if you feel like taking a whack at it
20:19:47 <•Calibri_Bold> Sonderance: CORRECT!
20:19:50 <etoile> im about to write the freaky part but i got good reactions from the whiplash between "funny anime fan" and "oh this guy is actually horrific"
20:19:55 <•Sonderance> Malyce: I'd love to!
20:20:03 Calibri_Bold: MAGNIFICENT
20:20:09 <Noodles> Sonderance: I'd like to imagine that the original incident is this initial lie and seeing at how quickly they (the ears) were able to spread they eventually became a sort of "well established" thing in the world.
20:20:15 Seeing as how often we do misrepresent ourselves and lie
20:20:19 <chiifu> see, i watch anime, and its uhh
20:20:20 <Noodles> If that makes sense
20:20:23 <chiifu> yeah its something
20:20:27 <Noodles> Also nice Umlaut Calibri_Bold
20:20:31 <etoile> i dont think anime is real❤️
20:20:33 <Noodles> Good old oe
20:20:36 <•TheMightyMcB> Ryan87: please confirm that you have read and understand what I just said to you
20:20:36 <chiifu> respect.
20:20:40 <•Sonderance> Noodles: Having such an innocuous lie be the actual catalyst of the phenomenon might be an issue
20:20:53 <Ryan87> i'm a bit slow ok
If this continues, I'll be issuing a ban from #thecritters.
Edit: The user nearly immediately left #thecritters following this event, brief logs below:
20:25:09 <Ryan87> I sometimes have a hard time understanding what others are saying to me, sometimes I feel like I not comunicating clearly enough, and when there are a dozin voice talking, it takes a while for me to sort out each one and give a proper responce before someone says something else
20:25:28 <chiifu> just take it one at a time Ryan87
20:26:18 <•Sonderance> Noodles: I promise you, I am very much not the most experienced critter in the zoo! In this case, I'd recommend having an actual anomaly; how it's perceived by each person involved, however, is up to the author.
20:26:55 <Noodles> Gotcha.
20:27:02 <l4mr124> Is it possible to put a collapsible in a collapsible?
20:27:05 <Noodles> Do you think the narrative works overall?
20:27:07 <SharpEmbrace> l4mr124: ye
20:27:15 .s style resource
20:27:16 <•Secretary_Helen> SharpEmbrace: SCP Style Resource (Rating: +308. Written 2 years ago By: 7happy7 and shaggydredlocks) - http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-style-resource
20:27:20 <•MalyceGraves> Ryan87: If you are getting a lot of people talking to you at once and you are struggling, please feel free to request only one critter at a time.
20:27:34 <SharpEmbrace> there's something in here for that
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20:27:54 <etoile> l4mr124: http://www.scp-wiki.net/guide-hub scroll down to "Formatting and Coding"
20:28:11 <Moon> Sonderance: Hey if you have the time mind me pitching a concept? If you're interested mind looking at the thread?
20:28:18 <•Sonderance> Noodles: The idea of a person slowly growing more and more paranoid due to their perception of an anomaly growing in direct response to their lie? I'd say so, if handled correctly.
20:28:20 Moon: Sure!
20:28:31 <Ryan87> MalyceGraves: thank you, I'll try to ask for a priveit chat whenever I return
20:28:39 <Moon> Sonderance: An SCP that is a 3D pen with the ability to recreate the last thing it has touched by drawing it. It creates what it draws in very small quantities making it a very time consuming process.
20:28:52 <Alpha> Sonderance: Mind looking at mine too if you get time?
20:29:00 <Ryan87> righ now I fell like I need to clear my head a bit
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Chatstaff have decided that, based on this reaction as well as previous interactions with the user, they do not conduct themselves at a level that is fitting for a denizen of our chats. As such, they've been issued a yearlong ban from #site19/#thecritters.
