<NetworkParadox> Hey was wondering why my membership was randomly removed with no notice half an hour ago.
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<ManyMeats> Hello NetworkParadox , I'm seeing if I can grab someone to talk to you
<DrMagnus> Standby, we're finding a relevant party to speak with you.
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<Francis> Zyn PMd me a short while ago, she might be reachable.
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<soulonphone> Hi
<Four_r44> Greetings
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<Always> that wasweird, I lost connection but I didn't know it
<Four_r44> Is it ok I didnt make my IRC name the same as my wikidot account?
<Gee0765> Yeah, that's fine
<Four_r44> epic
<Always> oap there we go. It worked now
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<Four_r44> How to get a registered nickname?
<Four_r44> It says I need one to join site 19
<soulonphone> NetworkParadox: you were issued a short ban for what appears to be caustic responses to criticism and also repeatedly posting ideas understood to be quite derivative of existing media
<NetworkParadox> How?
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<soulonphone> NetworkParadox: could you clarify what you mean by how?
<NetworkParadox> Just how, how did I
<NetworkParadox> wha
<NetworkParadox> im so confused
<NetworkParadox> ok
<NetworkParadox> Derivative of existing media, can you explain.
<Tuomey> Four_r44: PM
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<NetworkParadox> The island SCP I made wasn't at all relating to JP. It had dinosaurs, that's it. It also had strains, and a completely fictional organization
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<NetworkParadox> And it was my only idea
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<NetworkParadox> and you, and no one else, has no proof that I "stole" it. Because I didn't.
<NetworkParadox> I did everything according to laws, rules, and all of that.
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<soulonphone> NetworkParadox: yes, a coldposted article based off of Jurassic park and another idea on the forums quite close to venom/symbiote? Also, it looks like it was also taking directions from chat band in which you were banned for posting slurs
<Four_r44> Whoever dmed me about the nickname thing, please do it again because I disconnected
<NetworkParadox> Who is symbiote?
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<NetworkParadox> I only know Venom from the movie thing
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<soulonphone> NetworkParadox: yes from the movie
<NetworkParadox> And Venom isn't even a virus its a black blob, I never even watched the movie how did I steal it?
<soulonphone> NetworkParadox: also, you literally titled the coldpost Jurassic park
<NetworkParadox> Because it was a fun title.
<NetworkParadox> Name one similarity between JP and the coldpost.
<NetworkParadox> Besides "dinosaurs on island"
<NetworkParadox> We got strains, abandoned buildings, anomalous figures, anomalous events, weather anomalies
<NetworkParadox> JP has little to none of that
<NetworkParadox> And why is that bannable?
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<soulonphone> NetworkParadox: it was understood to be a derivative work on top of your caustic response to criticism and an existing history of negative behavior within the community, up to and including you needing to be banned from chat for posting slurs
<NetworkParadox> I was banned from chat and that's it. Now I'm being banned for no good reason.
<NetworkParadox> Because you think everything I write is stolen
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<NetworkParadox> When I never even watched Venom?!
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<NetworkParadox> And Nigeros I didn't insult in any way. I didn't openly disrespect them, I was explaining why I was offended.
<soulonphone> NetworkParadox: no, because you wrote works understood as pretty derivative AND could not receive or manage criticism without being caustic
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<NetworkParadox> I received and managed plenty of critiscism fine. If you look at the coldpost, I got criticism and changed the article based on it with a friendly response
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<NetworkParadox> Just because one person reported me because they thought my post about how I was offended was long doesn't mean I'm caustic to crit.
<soulonphone> NetworkParadox: please note I am not the person who voted on or executed the ban, I am merely explaining the reasoning. If you would like to appeal, please feel free to post your appeal here and I will forward it to relevant parties
<NetworkParadox> Ok I guess I'll try the appeal thing.
<NetworkParadox> I'd love to see how they can prove I stole content when I didn't even watch the stupid venom movie…
<soulonphone> NetworkParadox: please give me a moment to get to my PC and I will explain further
<NetworkParadox> Ok.
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<Soulless> Alright
<Soulless> NetworkParadox, please do not respond until I finish explaining the circumstanced in which you were banned, after which you may issue your appeal in full and I will pass it onto the relevant parties. Is this acceptabke?
<NetworkParadox> Yea
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<Soulless> NetworkParadox, alright, you first became known as an entity who responded to criticism extremely negatively in our existing criticm chat, #thecritters . It was noted at that point that you repeatedly responded in a hostile manner to criticism, could not take criticism, and ultimately called one of the junior staff there a slur, for which you were banned.
<NetworkParadox> I already know why I was banned from chat.
<NetworkParadox> Also I'm a person, not an entity.
<Soulless> NetworkParadox, please do not respond until I have finished explaining the full circumstances in which you were banned, as you agreed to. I'll let you know when I'm done.
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<Soulless> NetworkParadox, you then privately messaged a staff member to continue to respond in a hostile manner to your ban, went to site17 about it as is appropriate. It was noted that you were exceptionally difficult and combative throughout your stay in #thecritters and staff had already recieved repeated complaints about your behavior at that point.
<Soulless> NetworkParadox, During this time, on the site, you repeatedly displayed an inability to use the forums according to guidelines, including posting full drafts to the forums without greenlights no less than three times. You were informed repeatedly when you finally did post an idea that it was considered strongly derivative of Jurassic Park, which you responded to with sarcasm
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<Soulless> NetworkParadox, After responding to idea criticism with sarcasm, you posted the idea anyways as a full draft, and were informed again that it was extremely similar to Jurassic Park.
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<Soulless> NetworkParadox, At this point, it was understood by relevant forum crit staff that you have a pattern of responding in a hostile manner to criticism, are unable to recieve criticism without interpreting it as a hostile attack, and would ignore criticism as issued to you.
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<Soulless> NetworkParadox, You then posted a joke article and gave a shoutout to cimmerian. A user commented on this as a critique (that this was not an effective addition to your work), and you privately messaged the user to inform the user that they were, in fact, lying, and were rude and wrong.
<Soulless> NetworkParadox, We then were given logs of a user by your name commenting on Cimmerian videos.
<Soulless> NetworkParadox, Finally, you posted another idea, which was understood to be quite similar to venom from the spider-man franchise, and were banned. HOWEVER, due to your hostility to this other user, as well as existing hostilities to staff members, up to and including calling a junior staff member a slur, the votes for issuing a short ban were already put in place before the second idea thread.
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<NetworkParadox> Done?
<Soulless> NetworkParadox, This is my full summary of what I understand to be the situation. You were not directly banned only for ideas, but also, and perhaps more importantly, your response to criticism. I am done now, and please direct me your full appeal, after which I will issue back to the relevant parties.
<NetworkParadox> First can I see these logs
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<Soulless> They are available at staff request only, and not related to the reason why you were banned.
<NetworkParadox> Ok.
<NetworkParadox> Do I write out an appeal or?
<Soulless> Yes; Please write out your appeal in full, after which I will issue the appeal in full to the relevant parties. Please let me know when you are finished, so I may issue the appeal in full to the relevant parties.
<Soulless> I appreciate your patience in this matter.
<NetworkParadox> Ok.
<NetworkParadox> Soulless, I'll start one thing at a time with the chat ban. I was banned from chat and used the slur "dumbass" or "retard" to one of the staff I can't remember which. I did this because that junior member was provoking me for the majority of the time I was there, blatantly saying I was ignorant and my ideas were bad and being considerably rude. I lost my cool, and got angry. The appeal was denied, situation over, I was punished and the
<Francis> Network: There's a word limit on posts, before you move on. You were cut off at "I was punished and the"
<NetworkParadox> Ok.
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<NetworkParadox> -, I was punished and the staff wasn't. There's not much to say about it that wasn't said in my appeal which was disregarded.
<NetworkParadox> Next point you said was uh the greenlight system. I was confused, people told me it wasnt needed while others did so I just did. Someone said it was a rip off, I told them it wasn't because it's really not.
<NetworkParadox> That's about all I said.
<NetworkParadox> Then I tried to look at the forum the next day, but I couldn't find it. I typed in the forums, went into the search bar on the site.
<NetworkParadox> Nothing, I found nothing. I was confused so I just went to post it because I thought it was complete.
<AgentWhite> So I have a problem.
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<Gee0765> AgentWhite: one second I'll PM you, there's something happening here right now
<NetworkParadox> Now the joke Article, I watched a Cimmerian video and he said someone should make an scp about a toilet basically. So I did, and I made the article for fun and gave him credit for the idea because I didn't know what else to do.
<NetworkParadox> Then someone posted crit saying it was frowned upon to try to get recognition, from my standpoint being an accusation of being some hyper fan boy of Cimmerian when I watch like two of his videos every few months. I took it offensively, so I gave them the reasons why it was wrong and not appreciated.
<NetworkParadox> At no time during this comment did I insult them. I was angry, and it was long, but I didn't insult them. I was confused and upset.
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<NetworkParadox> And now with the second accusation of me stealing some Symbiotic venom idea or whatever is also very upsetting because I spent time thinking of this idea from a picture on the wiki.
<NetworkParadox> To be accused of simply "oh he stole this from spiderman
<NetworkParadox> is upsetting.
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<NetworkParadox> After working to make the lore and function of the virus using even online research about the immunity system.
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<NetworkParadox> Then someone says you steal it, that would be upsetting to anyone, no?
<NetworkParadox> Now if there's no other point I missed, that's all.
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<NetworkParadox> If you look at the JP coldpost actually, you see I got actual critism rather than accusations and rude comments. I took them well, and tried to fix what I could.
<Soulless> You have not made a post in about 4 minutes. Have you completed your appeal?