Disciplinary - Surn

Summary:

Repeated problematic feedback, offensive content

Disciplinary - Surn

Zyn 23 Jun 2019 06:35

Surn has a history of posting feedback that is effectively nonsensical, immature, or otherwise spammy: http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-12097890/non-disc-record-surn

Today, they posted the following: http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-12121959/any-ideas-for-brainstorming#post-4288449

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Biblical tale of the flood in old testament was because Angel's had children with human women. This spawned a race of giants. It also polluted man, so "Big G" wiped them out.
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What if Asian people are the normal humans? Jesus was middle eastern due to his divine heritage. The other physically larger human races are remnants from the Nephilim.

Substitute scp/aliens/time travel or whatever into the storyline. It might be a big hit in Asia.

When called out about the problematic post, they changed "Asian" to "smaller".

Given that they've already been addressed by staff multiple times, I dropped a C&D: http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-12121959/any-ideas-for-brainstorming#post-4288639 and also revoked their membership. Keep an eye on.

Re: Disciplinary - Surn

Zyn 23 Jun 2019 23:43

Noting that I've gotten two replies from them, about 7 hours apart.

That reply to an idea was obviously reading things through his/her own bigotry.

How could the people created in Gods Image be "inferior"?!

It was everyone else that was corrupted. That is the entire point.

It is just a troll account, but I get it.

I have a suggestion.

When someone gets offended at their misinterpretation of someone else's thought, could you give a chance for a conversation to occur?

I could have explained why their interpretation was wrong.

They were not thinking and reacted emotionally then rationalized that reaction. A simple "you misread" is probably all that was needed, if the person is not just a troll.

Of note, the "it is just a troll account" they were referring to was a clearly-marked JS post. I replied with the following:

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The "troll account" you referred to is a staff member on the site. Furthermore, again, you have repeatedly been addressed for your poor communication skills; oftentimes, the case is not that people are misinterpreting your comments, it's that you have written them in a way that is not clear enough to begin with.

If this was the first instance where staff needed to address problematic posting from you, we would have allowed conversation. However, given how many previous instances you have been addressed directly and with no improvement, the usual disciplinary measures factor in here. These are part of the site rules.

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At this point I'm almost considering a ban due to their repeated incoherence and vehement response to being told (repeatedly) that their communication needs a lot of work before they can expect to contribute to the site.

Re: Disciplinary - Surn

Zyn 25 Jun 2019 06:33

Got another PM:

ok

There is a level of vagueness when trying to help someone spur an idea. I was not trying to give them an idea directly, but give them a setting that would spur an idea.

Thank you for all your time

Sent back a reply telling them that giving vague feedback is typically discouraged for the forums, they had a history of being addressed by staff for problematic feedback so the explanation didn't improve matters, and the OP in the aforementioned thread was asking for ideas to be given directly anyway.

Re: Disciplinary - Surn

TheMightyMcB 24 Jun 2019 16:55

Porting this over from the Non-Disc thread cause I'm a dumb and didn't notice I put it in the wrong one.

Just got a PM from them.

Honestly, I don't know if you are just a troll account, but you represented that idea as exactly the opposite of what it could in any reasonable way be read.

If God created people and wiped out everyone else (due to their being corrupted), except for those he missed…

HOW THE HELL ARE THE HUMANS INFERIOR?!

Seriously, troll account.

Make of that what you will, I guess? I didn't respond.

Re: Disciplinary - Surn

Zyn 28 May 2020 06:00

Noting for records-keeping that I got a… rather bizarre PM from this user, apparently out of the blue.

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It has been almost a year, and I came back to review what happened.

I have been an admin of a site that had tens of thousands of users. Sometimes you would get a troll or a "rules lawyer" that would really distract from the core mission. So, I am saying this with 10 years of experience in that role…

This situation is just terrible. Terrible enough that it needs to be reviewed.

My impression is that the complaint was your alternate account. The accusation is based on an insane interpretation, but it is a facade. It is about bias and the hate culture.

I am a person with many ideas and points of view. Politically I am a true moderate, but I believe that there are only two actual political movements: Freedom for everyone or slavery upon everyone. The choices we make can only serve one of these goals.

It is my considered opinion that the "progressive" movement is not for freedom for everyone. That vision of the future, the promise to be "elite" as the allure in the promotion of the class system, is evil. Evil, not in the intention of the average believer, in the outcome.

Be careful. I wish you love and understanding.

I'm inclined not to reply.

Re: Disciplinary - Surn

A Random Day 28 May 2020 23:49

I’m just going to vote for a permaban. This should have happened last year, honestly — he’s creepy and I cannot foresee a future in which that stops any time soon.

Re: Disciplinary - Surn

Tuomey Tombstone 28 May 2020 23:55

I don't understand why he's telling us about his politics because we said calling Asian folks inferior is problematic.

Permaban.
Nobody who shows up to rant about their politics and tell you that saying racism is bad leads to slavery is going to bring value to themself or anything else.

Re: Disciplinary - Surn

SoullessSingularity 29 May 2020 00:03

So from what I can understand a user espouses nonsensical rants with racism sprinkled in, and when questioned about it, goes on a literal year-long political soapbox at staff members.

Well, I'll execute perma.

Salutations,

You have been issued a permanent ban from the SCP Foundation. If you have any questions or concerns, you may respond to me here or enter the #site17 channel on the SynIRC Irc server.

SoullessSingularity

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Living the dream, or dreaming the life?

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