[05:00] DonCorleone Hey
[05:00] === DonCorleone <ten.tsacmoc.vw.1dsh.7BF60522-CRInys|tibbiM#ten.tsacmoc.vw.1dsh.7BF60522-CRInys|tibbiM> “http://www.mibbit.com” [NOTE: This is, of course, the IP Kaiju almost always used… just as it's the IP this user almost always uses. Because they are the same person.]
[05:00] DonCorleone Got a sec?
[05:05] thedeadlymoose uh
[05:05] thedeadlymoose hello
[05:05] DonCorleone Yeah, I know
[05:05] DonCorleone Not exactly the person you want to talk to
[05:05] DonCorleone I just wanted to say a few things
[05:05] thedeadlymoose it's more that it's 5AM for me and I'm falling asleep
[05:05] thedeadlymoose but go ahead
[05:05] DonCorleone Oh
[05:05] DonCorleone Uh, well
[05:05] DonCorleone I saw my O5 thread
[05:06] DonCorleone And since a few people are calling for a permaban, I just wanted to state a few things
[05:06] DonCorleone I never meant to be disruptive (on the wiki)
[05:06] DonCorleone I honestly just wanted to have interesting debates going
[05:06] DonCorleone In my mind, there's nothing wrong with politely and calmly debating things
[05:06] DonCorleone However:
[05:06] DonCorleone If other people find this disruptive, I will stop behaving in that manner
[05:07] DonCorleone And I sincerely apologize for any strife I've caused on the wiki
[05:08] DonCorleone But if the staff feels it's necessary to perma me, I understand
[05:08] thedeadlymoose I'm a bit confused
[05:08] thedeadlymoose this doesn't address almost any of what was actually brought up on your thread
[05:09] DonCorleone Alright, hang on
[05:09] DonCorleone Excluding chat stuff, since that's irrelevant
[05:09] DonCorleone I'll address the major points:
[05:09] DonCorleone In a soon to be deleted coldpost's thread, they responded to a post by Decibelle: + Decibelle's post They replied with: Way to warm up the newbies, Condescend-O Staff-posted, telling them that staff should determine if a post isn't helpful for a user.
[05:09] DonCorleone I sincerely apologize for that and recognize it was out of line.
[05:09] DonCorleone I have no excuse.
[05:10] DonCorleone Further things on a tale: http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1163694/this-world-is-as-you-would-have-wanted#post-2264205 Okay, condescendo http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1163694/this-world-is-as-you-would-have-wanted#post-2264574 "Everyone who downvotes a bad story with gay characters is a homophobe!" Both were replied to with closed staff posts.
[05:10] DonCorleone Again, no excuse for the first comment.
[05:10] DonCorleone I maintain the comment about homophobes was a genuine response to that person's insinuation that people were downvoting because they had a problem with homosexuality, not the story
[05:10] DonCorleone But yes, I could have handled it in a better way, so I apologize.
[05:11] DonCorleone "Also, he's pretty clearly DrKaiju, as evidenced by chat threads here and here That makes this whole thing sockpuppeting, which is, like, super bannable, right??"
[05:11] DonCorleone No comment. I've tried to do everything I can to prove I'm my own person
[05:11] DonCorleone Dealing with him seemed likely to incite more chaos than not dealing with him. That's not a matter of policy everyone should follow, just why I haven't brought this up.
[05:11] DonCorleone I apologize for making anyone feel this way.
[05:11] DonCorleone I am honestly not trying to be a nuisance on the wiki.
[05:12] DonCorleone Perhaps it would be wise for me to avoid discussions altogether and just write.
[05:12] DonCorleone But again, I do apologize.
[05:12] DonCorleone Take that for what you will.
[05:13] DonCorleone Any thoughts?
[05:16] thedeadlymoose You're not your own person. You've sockpuppetted even during your time as Onion/Corleone. Sure, there's a slight possibility you're not Kaiju, but you act essentially identical to him, so the idea that you're not… well, it beggars belief. So in other words, I think it's pretty clear you're lying, and am therefore disinclined personally to take any of this seriously.
[05:16] thedeadlymoose I believe you don't want to get banned on the wiki, but you have pretty poor impulse control, and don't seem to be inclined to operate fully honestly
[05:17] DonCorleone That is your right to believe. I'm not going to argue that if you're insistent on it
[05:17] DonCorleone I do, however, ask that you understand that I will make a more active effort to become…uh…less annoying, if that means anything
[05:17] DonCorleone But if you and the other mods feel a ban is necessary, I do understand
[05:17] thedeadlymoose I'm curious.
[05:18] thedeadlymoose Would you deny that you trolled #site17 under a different name?
[05:18] DonCorleone When and under what name?
[05:18] thedeadlymoose I… would think given the nature of the question, "yes" or "no" would be sufficient
[05:19] DonCorleone I've used the following names:
[05:19] DonCorleone http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-1161408/manbearpig-scp173-zuelgo
[05:19] DonCorleone http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-1160056/huge
[05:20] DonCorleone Yes, I admit to trolling 17.
[05:20] DonCorleone …under those names.
[05:20] DonCorleone I apologize and accept my ban.
[05:21] thedeadlymoose Alright.
[05:21] thedeadlymoose I'm still confused, though.
[05:21] DonCorleone How so?
[05:21] thedeadlymoose You haven't addressed gaming the author page requirements.
[05:22] DonCorleone Why would I? I didn't break any rules. I had three non-negative articles up, so I created one. One of my tales hit the negatives, so I promptly deleted said author page and worked on something else.
[05:24] thedeadlymoose Who cares? If you're going to try to figure out how to be super irritating but not break the rules, we'll still just ban you for 'being a dick'. If you sincerely desire to not be a nuisance on the wiki, why on earth would you game author page requirements? Not to mention with material specifically designed to be irritating (as every single iteration of your author page has been)
[05:25] thedeadlymoose Admittedly, I don't find any of these things as irritating as others seem to, but it's still clear to me that they're /constructed/ to be irritating.
[05:25] DonCorleone I wasn't trying to be a dick.
[05:25] DonCorleone I genuinely wanted to have an author page.
[05:26] DonCorleone You are welcome to not believe that, but it's the truth.
[05:26] DonCorleone If I wanted to troll on the wiki, believe me, I would have done it by now.
[05:27] thedeadlymoose I have no way of knowing that you /haven't/, and only your word that your constant disruption hasn't been /intentional/. I mean, from our POV, you already have. Also, we have every reason to believe you are Kaiju, so we therefore have plenty of reason to believe that you have simply trolled under other names… just as you did on chat.
[05:27] thedeadlymoose Granted, I don't actually personally have any thoughts regarding whether you've trolled on the wiki.
[05:27] thedeadlymoose I'm just pointing out that saying "believe me, I would have done it by now" is a bit silly.
[05:27] DonCorleone I haven't done anything malicious on the wiki.
[05:27] DonCorleone And yeah, I get that.
[05:28] DonCorleone But this is my only account, and I have not done anything besides what's listed in my O5 thread.
[05:31] DonCorleone Anything else I should cover?
[05:32] thedeadlymoose I suppose it comes down to: I don't believe you. You have identical patterns to Kaiju in almost every single way. If you admitted it, I'd have a way to work with you (essentially, I'd ask you to choose an account and remove all votes cast by the other account), but since you don't admit to that, then there isn't any real way I'm going to support you remaining on the wiki. Granted, if you are…
[05:32] thedeadlymoose …not actually Kaiju, that does suck… but you wouldn't be in this position if you hadn't been so immensely disruptive and are requesting leniency, so there's a limit to how badly I can feel about that.
[05:32] thedeadlymoose That said, I'll post this on O5, and others can make up their own minds.
[05:34] DonCorleone Very well.
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