12:02 PM <%TombGames> Hi
12:02 PM <The_Special> Hello, I'd like to inquire about a photo being used for an SCP without permission.
12:02 PM <The_Special> It's stated in the licensing section of your site:
12:02 PM <The_Special> "This also means that anyone making stuff derived from your work has to attribute you as one of the creators, and that any work made from your stuff is under the same license as well. You can't stop people from doing derivatives, but you can ask them to attribute you in the way you see fit, such as linking back to your web page or project page."
12:03 PM <The_Special> However, the photo has not given credit to the photographer, the costume performer, or the original costume creators.
12:03 PM <%TombGames> Ok, which picture are you talking about?
12:03 PM <The_Special> http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1471
12:03 PM <+Alexandra> The_Special: SCP-1471 (MalO ver1.0.0, Written by LurkD, Rating:+244) - http://scp-wiki.net/scp-1471
12:04 PM <%kaktus> Do you have a link to the original posting of the image?
12:04 PM <The_Special> I do not, and that is also part of the problem. I work with the original creators, and we would like to know who photographed it for credit's sake.
12:04 PM <%kaktus> Looks like it came from here
12:04 PM <%kaktus> http://tarangryph.deviantart.com/art/Don-t-open-the-door-266339027
12:05 PM <The_Special> Thank you.
12:06 PM <The_Special> Is it possible to get the source on the SCP page to both the original image and to the creator's website?
12:06 PM <%FlameShirt> The image itself looks pretty explicitly not CC.
12:06 PM <%kaktus> I'm not certain. Typically the author only needs to seek permission to use an image from the original content creator, which in this case
12:06 PM <The_Special> We have received multiple inquiries to replicate that image, attributing SCP as the original creators.
12:06 PM <%kaktus> would be that DeviantArt user as the photographer.
12:06 PM <%FlameShirt> If that is the original source.
12:07 PM <%kaktus> FlameShirt: aye
12:07 PM <%kaktus> We'll need to see if LurkD talked to whoever owns that DeviantArt page.
12:07 PM <%lurkd> I'm here.
12:07 PM <%kaktus> As for whether or not that DeviantArt user got permission to take the initial photograph, that's pretty well out of our hands.
12:07 PM <%kaktus> Ayyyyyyy lurkd
12:07 PM — %kaktus waves
12:08 PM <%kaktus> Question about MalO, you didn't by chance get ahold of the original content creator, did you?
12:08 PM <%lurkd> This image came from pinterest.
12:08 PM <%lurkd> I can tell you that much.
12:08 PM — %kaktus nods
12:08 PM <%lurkd> I didn't pull it form deviantart.
12:09 PM <The_Special> Ok, so there seems to be confusion on the original source then…
12:09 PM <%lurkd> I do know that the costume performer didn't have an issue with it.
12:09 PM <%lurkd> though that's third-party information
12:09 PM <%kaktus> The original source of that image specifically was a photographer on deviantart, and it's been disseminated from there.
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12:10 PM <%kaktus> If anything, we need to get permission to use the image from that guy.
12:10 PM <The_Special> Ok.
12:10 PM <%kaktus> Might be worth firing off an email, lurkd
12:10 PM <The_Special> Thank you.
12:10 PM <%kaktus> No worries, friend.
12:10 PM <%kaktus> That's what we're here for.
12:10 PM <%lurkd> The_Special, may I know your association with tarangryph?
12:11 PM <The_Special> I am a member of the company that made the mask
12:11 PM <%kaktus> Huh. Cool mask.
12:11 PM <%lurkd> Noted. Thank you.
12:11 PM <The_Special> That is our artwork in the photo
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12:12 PM <%lurkd> So, going forward…
12:12 PM <%kaktus> Going forward, you just need to get ahold of tarangryph
12:12 PM <%kaktus> And that puts us in the clear if they OK it.
12:12 PM <%kaktus> Since theyre the content creator in this case.
12:13 PM <The_Special> No, let me re-state:
12:13 PM <%lurkd> (sry brb 5mins)
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12:13 PM <%kaktus> The_Special: I understand what you're saying.
12:13 PM <The_Special> I am wondering if you can site the source of the image with either both the photographer (as they link the mask back to us) OR link us as the original creators.
12:14 PM <%kaktus> But the fact of the matter is, we're only responsible for getting a release from the original image creator
12:14 PM <%kaktus> which would be, in this case, the photographer
12:14 PM <%kaktus> So that's what we'll do next, is try to get ahold of tarangryph.
12:14 PM <The_Special> OK, so the image will not be sourced, that is what you are telling me?
12:15 PM <%kaktus> The image will be sourced if tarangryph requests it, not sourced if they release it, and removed if theyre don't care to do either.
12:15 PM <%lurkd> It will be sourced at the behest of tarangryph pending on their permission.
12:15 PM <%kaktus> Assuming lurkd's 3rd party information is true, they have no trouble with us using the image
12:15 PM <%kaktus> So if we get that in writing, then it'll stand as-is.
12:15 PM <%lurkd> kaktus, that was for the costume player herself.
12:16 PM <%kaktus> And also the original hoster of the image through deviantart.
12:16 PM <%lurkd> Let me link something real quick.
12:16 PM <%kaktus> Sure, go ahead.
12:16 PM <%lurkd> http://containmentbreach.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Z-Bites/Origin_of_SCP-1471-A
12:17 PM <%lurkd> > "When I typed the link into a comment on the deviation in the link below 1471's link, tarangryph learned about it and was very excited to hear about the news since she had pretty much became an SCP object"
12:17 PM <%lurkd> So let me find that comment I guess on the page.
12:17 PM <%kaktus> Aha, excellent.
12:17 PM <%kaktus> I thought I had heard about this.
12:18 PM <The_Special> Ok I see all the sources are there on THAT page, but what about the main SCP page?
12:18 PM <%kaktus> The_Special: you know what we could do either way, is link to you guys as the creators of the costume in the comments section
12:18 PM <The_Special> is that page linked to from the main SCP?
12:19 PM <The_Special> of which page?
12:19 PM <%kaktus> Of the 1471 page.
12:19 PM <%lurkd> The_Special, I'll contact tarangryph myself and hopefully get a response in due time.
12:20 PM <%kaktus> In other words, since we (assumedly) have permission from tarangryph to use the image in the first place, the best we can do right now is to stick a link to you guys as the costume creator in the comments section.
12:21 PM <%kaktus> Don't think lurkd would oppose that, aye?
12:22 PM <The_Special> Thank you.
12:22 PM <%kaktus> that said, The_Special, we would need a link so we can cite you guys.
12:23 PM <The_Special> I think linking back to the original source that comes from Tarangryph's gallery would be the correct attribution, as she links to us as the original creators.
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12:23 PM <The_Special> If you want our website: http://clockworkcreature.com/gallery/
12:24 PM <%lurkd> This is agreeable.
12:24 PM <%kaktus> Excellent. It shall be done.
12:24 PM <The_Special> Original posting of the mask itself: http://qarrezel.deviantart.com/art/Genganger-253977442
12:24 PM <%lurkd> Thank you The_Special, anything else?
12:24 PM <%kaktus> Hah. That's pretty cool.
12:24 PM <The_Special> No, thank you for answerign all my questions, you have been extremely patient.
12:25 PM <The_Special> *answering