Guide 4 Staff

Guide 4 Staff

thedeadlymoose 15 Dec 2014 11:01

[02:20] thedeadlymoose Crayne: honestly I'm kinda disturbed by how many people we have who don't know these pretty fundamental things
[02:20] thedeadlymoose like you & weizhong surely aren't the only staff with this confusion
[02:20] thedeadlymoose I don't blame you guys at all
[02:21] thedeadlymoose when it was just [REDACTED], or [REDACTED], or whatnot, they were literally there for all this stuff so there was no excuse
[02:21] thedeadlymoose so I did blame them :P
[02:21] thedeadlymoose but you guys? you're more active than the majority of admins ..
[02:21] thedeadlymoose it's a failure on a larger scale, not a failure of you guys personally
[02:21] Crayne It's because there's no "Being staff for Dummies: A Guide for the rest of us"
[02:21] thedeadlymoose Yeah.
[02:22] Crayne You just get a patch slapped onto your breast and off you go.
[02:22] thedeadlymoose Yeeeeeeaah. That's what we've been doing, eh?

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So. Thoughts? Does anyone want to help make "Being Staff for Dummies: A Guide for the Rest of Us"?

Re: Guide 4 Staff

Crayne 15 Dec 2014 11:02

Yus?

Re: Guide 4 Staff

ProcyonLotor 15 Dec 2014 11:03

I think this would be really useful. I could pitch in, if needed.

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Re: Guide 4 Staff

(account deleted) 15 Dec 2014 11:24

I support this and can help.

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weizhong 15 Dec 2014 11:57

Being one of the people who got mixed up, I obviously support this.

I know that in my case, I kinda got thrown into "unofficial staff" position a few months after I got on the site, and then following full promotion, I was just told "keep doing those unofficial staffy things you were doing before."

Some of the finer points would be helpful. Also, I want to broaden this to all Team Leaders that they do a similar thing for their own teams, like "How 2 Site Crit" so that everyone on the team knows exactly what to do on said team.

Re: Guide 4 Staff

RhettSarlin 15 Dec 2014 14:01

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(account deleted) 15 Dec 2014 18:01

It would be helpful to know what the hell everyone is talking about that's necessitating this.

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Rejekyll 16 Dec 2014 21:31

Seriously. To be honest, it disturbs me a little that there are so many things that new staff supposedly don't know that we need to make a guide for them.

Re: Guide 4 Staff

thedeadlymoose 16 Dec 2014 22:00

See below, please. (Besides discussion on IRC)

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TroyL 15 Dec 2014 23:41

That's what this page was originally supposed to be. It was supplanted, in concept, by the team pages, which were supposed to have that team's duties and policies on the page itself. Staff members who were placed on a team were supposed to be able to find all the information they needed for being on that team and what they were going to do.

No one should be flailing for "what I dooo?" They should be looking at their team page, or in lieu of this, talking to their team members to get ideas. If you're wanting a broad, general "what do I do as a staff member?" page, then I suggest replacing the originally linked document with a broad, general overview and have the captains and their staff work out their policies and roles on their team pages.

That said, it might just be best to find the elements of the staff structure page that need expanded and address things there.

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Re: Guide 4 Staff

thedeadlymoose 16 Dec 2014 00:44

One example was that a number of us did not know what -ARCs are actually for, or the history and context of them. That's not necessarily a bad thing; a fresh outside perspective can correct any number of baked-in errors. [EDIT: I somehow left off the last sentence.] But it seems hard to make proper decisions on this sort of thing without even knowing what it's for, through no fault of their own.

I don't think "Staff Structure" can cover things like that. I think a general FAQ would actually be beneficial. Even on the site proper, the shitty outdated FAQ (well, actually, it's much less shitty now but still outdated) serves as a valuable resource. As opposed to "ask Troy or Moose or flounder".

Hey, it probably would've helped if I clarified the example I was thinking of in the first place, eh? Gold star to me.

It doesn't necessarily even have to be a huge page, I just think it would be helpful. "Non-obvious things you should know as general staff."

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Re: Guide 4 Staff

RJB_R 16 Dec 2014 00:47

Can we volunteer to help make this FAQ?

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Re: Guide 4 Staff

thedeadlymoose 16 Dec 2014 01:00

Maybe. I think you have other stuff on your priority list, though, broheim. >:P (Let's continue this conversation tangent in a PM, though, pls! Enough people probably hate us for the recent posts spam as it is.)

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TroyL 16 Dec 2014 01:55

I would really like to see everyone put forward what their problems were when they became staff, things they didn't know, things they were worried about, etc. And based on that list, I'd like to create a document to clarify, provide references for people, and provide guidance.

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Re: Guide 4 Staff

thedeadlymoose 16 Dec 2014 02:20

I would really like to see everyone put forward what their problems were when they became staff, things they didn't know, things they were worried about, etc. And based on that list, I'd like to create a document to clarify, provide references for people, and provide guidance.

…this is pretty awesome, actually. I fully endorse this course of action.

Re: Guide 4 Staff

Sophia Light 16 Dec 2014 01:55

If updated now and then, it might also prove useful for oldbies such as myself wondering what's changed.

Either way, sounds useful!

Re: Guide for Staff - Please Respond Here

TroyL 16 Dec 2014 18:01

What were the questions that you had when you became senior staff? What were the issues that you had, problems you didn't know how to approach, etc? Additionally, what are the things you didn't learn about the wiki or its function until long after you became a member of staff?

Please answer seriously. These answers will go into making the new staff FAQ.

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Re: Guide for Staff - Please Respond Here

ProcyonLotor 16 Dec 2014 18:07

As for what I remember: I was slightly confused about Junior Staff's power as it came to deletion votes, as well as policy/ban votes on 05.

Re: Guide for Staff - Please Respond Here

TroyL 19 Dec 2014 01:49

So, it's been two days, and I've only gotten one response.

I'm going to assume that, instead of a full guide, what we really need is to clean up the hubs to clarify the powers and abilities of the teams, then make sure that Junior Staff know what they're doing before they get promoted. We can do this best, I feel, by bringing people into SSSC a little earlier and helping them to get acclimated.

Honestly, the fact that some people didn't know what -ARCs are doesn't surprise me. It's been a fairly long time since we've had to archive an SCP, after all. That said, the Archived SCP page spells out exactly what they are, both types. Perhaps the rarity means they simply hadn't been run into them before? I don't know.

That said, the lack of response makes me believe this page isn't really needed. Anyone who disagrees can contact me via Wikidot PM with the things they think should be added to such a page. I'll begin passively drafting one. Until then, I consider this discussion closed.

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Re: Guide for Staff - Please Respond Here

Crayne 19 Dec 2014 08:11

I have to admit this simply dropped off my radar. Will PM.

Re: Guide for Staff - Please Respond Here

weizhong 19 Dec 2014 11:11

I'm still pushing for each team leader to make their own internal team guide, ans I'm currently in the process of making one myself.